dick armey why these polls are so crazy. are the polls biased.s rasmussen the best along with pew and he said it's a different race. completely head-to-head even. >> personally have never been guided by polls but do i think insofar as there's any validity to these polls it goes back to the point you made earlier, governor romney needs to assert himself in a strong confident way as reagan did. i mean it's not -- it's no longer necessary to tell america that president obama is not up to the job. we know that. what he needs to do now is tell america in chapter and verse details how he is up to the job. and he hasn't really taken that step forward. i think some of the changes he's making, especially the addition of eddie gilliespie. >> lower tax rates, slinging government, deregulation, bob what should your man do right now? i'll tell you i know that obama looks like he's leading in the polls but i'm betting on rasmussen that says it's even. what do you think he should do? >> first i got to say the rasmussen has a sample right now and is waiting on s

by billionaires right wing corporate billionaires it financed the tea party from the beginning dick armey used to be majority leader in the house of representatives for the republicans from texas and he's one of the big players behind freedom works they were backed by corporate money or astroturf from the start and what they were able to do is tap into a latent racism directed at barack obama as the for a flat president in my view yes blatant racism in american society that's why they say he's from kenya all this stuff about how they there they went absolutely the right wing in this country when book bonkers with the first african-american president what they don't realize that it was what the occupy wall street people realize he got elected quite handily sure that's a good as well as you can try and let us know how we got in well while listen to this we were waiting for barack obama do something about the banks all we got was seven hundred thousand laid off public sector workers in the united states mostly teachers we've got budget cuts all over the place they've crippled the public univ

dick armey and the john birch society founded by the koch brothers father to freddie franco there you go right there riff on that. one i mean it's obvious to me this is a replay of one nine hundred sixty four others extreme right wing is taken over the democratic party i mean the republican party they've moved this party to the far par right now they've got right to work on the platform you're talking about tax cuts for the rich getting rid of you know capital gains tax you know getting rid of suits security medicare medicaid i mean it's bizarre for our this party has moved to the right and i think they're really hurting themselves because they're basically playing themselves out of the game there is no appeal here you know you talk about the big tent i swear to god that the republicans are playing small tent . no women no gays no blacks small or no labor smaller and smaller tent you can't win that way but i guess we've got to teach it well they're going to try it as long as within that small tent they've got all the billionaires and multimillionaires or at least a large chunk of them

not in the united states under bill clinton and to do that he had to work with newt gingrich and dick armey because he always says you're. anyone out let me tell you. this baby. is out there and your question specifically was about what he what did he want the job or treasury secretary to think you take it well that's a great i would say that five years ago if he were offered that he would take it but right now after he and i have observed close up for almost a year talking with legislators and cabinet people he wouldn't step into that morass for anything in the world it would be i think it would be a total embarrassment to him to come into a government system which is totally dysfunctional had it been some smoothness of back when he was working or when i was working in senate i think you take it right now you just say look since somebody else into that swamp i'm not gone and i just have a clear seconds here but could you pinpoint one thing that's changed that is a limited any ability to compromise that's different from when you were in office. or i think it's just a people run on the basis

freedomworks, dick armey's organization, koch brothers. john kasich in ohio, koch brothers.candidate -- bought lock, stock and barrel by the koch brothers. same as scott walker in wisconsin. everywhere. in many california a couple of years ago there was a measure, prop 23, on the ballot to repeal the new clean car standards put in by arnold schwarzenegger. that measure to repeal those standards, which lost -- prop

we easily bought into the narrative and i think there was a whole astro turf movement with dick armeyly understanding that you can win with the radical ideas in gerimander districts maybe once but you cannot win statewide and you did not win a presidential election given the changing demographics of the country. you simply cannot. >> e.j., they were beating a drum about the deficit which is important but when you look at the concerns of american, let's look at the top five concerns. one, the economy. two, jobs. three, health care. four, education. five was the budget deficit. so no one's minimizing the importance of the deficit but there really is not a program that deals with the other four and they are using extreme measures and cutting up various entitlements and americans that want to deal with the deficit. >> i think what happened in 2010 and democrats in a way allowed this to happen is that the republicans succeeded in making the deficit a central issue and a stand in for people's economic worries across the board. >> right. >> i think now it's much clearer to people that these

. >> i can see some of the pictures and you can see senator dick armey in the front -- excuse me, from faces are no longer on the hill. whether they were voted out or whether they retired but it is poignant to see that they're doing the same thing. but then is it business as usual? is there some time now as they all dissipate? >> you know i'd like to say it's not going to be business as usual. but that would probably be naive. they are likely to go back and do what they have been doing with regard to, you know, fighting each other on pieces of legislation that they each care deeply about. and of course preparing for the election that is just eight weeks away. very, very different from the atmosphericses on 9/11 when everybody went back into that building and genuinely worked together to deal with the airline industry, of course to deal with how to confront the taliban in afghanistan, and on and on and on. the very real crisis that this country was in. they genuinely did work together eleven years ago. and if i might just add just a little bit of color, i just remember coming in to the

involvement in the tea party, while some say this is astroturfing, dick armey's involvement has helped coal is around a particular message, whether you agree or disagree with, it's coherently explained and put forth. whether i agree or disagree with the movement, and i generally don't agree with them, getting someone like a dick armey or not necessarily him, but getting someone together to help formulate that message in a coherent way to get it out there to say this is what we stand for, and it's not this disparate amount of nonsense that's never going to come to pass would serve the movement better. >> that may be coming. dan thanks so much for coming in. good luck getting back to work. >>> straight ahead, social media stocks bouncing off their lows, seeing double-digit gains in the last couple weeks, but do you trust the surge? good question. we'll talk about that after the break. try this... bayer? this isn't just a headache. trust me, this is new bayer migraine. [ male announcer ] it's the power of aspirin plus more in a triple action formula to relieve your tough migraines. new ba

freedom work in the dick armey's koch brothers. john kasich and ohio, koch brothers candidate, bob lock, stock and barrel by the koch brothers. same with scott walker in wisconsin. everywhere in california, a couple years ago there's a measure prop 23 on the ballot to repeal the clean, new clean car standards put in by arnold schwarzenegger. that measured to repeal standards which loss, prop 23, totally funded by the koch brothers. legislation in west virginia to overturn the new mining safety rules that were put in place after the last mind disaster. the effort to overturn mining safety regulations funded by the koch brothers. i have in the book a page with 53 different organizations. a lot of them by the way research centers on college campuses around the country all for the purpose of disputing the existence of global warming and fighting to do away with any government regulations, so anything to do with climate control. 57 organizations that i was able to find that we do partially or totally funded by the koch brothers. their r

former republican majority house leader dick armey. thank you. >> thank you. connell: we bring brian wesbury in, chief economist at first trust advisors. this redistribution talk that's in this old video of president obama. i mean really when you take away the politics, you know, socialism, all these buzz words that people attach to it, what he's really talking about i'm sure back then but more importantly more recently, higher taxes he wants higher taxes to the wealthy either to redistribute what he would say is fairness or he might argue to close or fight the deficit. you have a different argument many terms of the e -- in terms of the effect of higher taxes on the economy. >> yeah, we know that when you raise taxes, you reduce the incentives to work, to invest, and to save. i mean, all of that is true. but really what's interesting about this, connell, is that it's the spending that drives the taxes. today, let's take away defense. take out the wars. take out all -- every dollar we spend on defense. non-defense government spending is at an all time record h

. >> i think the road leads to dick armey, former majority leader in the congress now involved with americans prosperity. they see a viable grassroots movement on the right and they water it with lots of green money and they grow it. now, we have the tea party as a viable political movement and the occupy movement we don't hear from. so i think the big dollars play on the right, not the left. i don't think the occupy people wanted the money. they might have turned it back. we see this development on one side of the spectrum. >> one of the good things i think you are saying is we begin to see in the polls that a.p. just put out. 8 in 10 americans want to limit the big money now coming into the system. you do see americans see that their vote is being taken away with big money. when you get 8-10 americans saying this is a bad ideal. that is a bad ideal. i think you will see some movement on it. >> "the new york times" had about the oil and coal money and subtle ads why you should not vote for barack obama. we are talking about major corporations that are now behind these efforts. they are not c

president obama is going to agree to these -- to a harsher budget, harsher than newt gingrich or dick armey, one that cuts medicaid by 1/3 that you would expect the kaiser foundation estimates it would affect 19 million people. middle-class families have a child with disabilities like optimism or down's syndrome, middle-class families who have someone in a nursing on, that 19 million people in these categories lose their coverage. why do they have such a harsh budget? because they have to bring the deficit down? once they move away from that, there are many ways you could work something out in the lame- duck session that could avoid sequestration or the other things people are worried about like the fiscal cliff and this president has shown that he is willing to work in good faith on that compromise. >> you're talking about ideological rigidity -- one things republicans want is changes in the structures of the entitlement programs. one flashpoint is paul ryan and the idea of premium support for medicare. there must be a flicker of the interest in democrats on that alice rivlin has endorsed