dick armey said they're trying to create chaos. dick armey. former house speaker dennis hastert said it's a lot for fractious. none of these people in major leadership positions in his party saying even anything remotely kind about this effort. >> you know, reverend, it's ironic. because it's these very same people. it was the gop establishment that created the pea party. they created what they believed was an astral turf, grassroots organization that grew up and became a movement on its own. people like dick armey created ted cruz. they gave him this platform. kruss has not painted himself into the corner. this is more like the tiger is out of the bag. for them to condemn what happened to ted cruz, they ought to take responsibility for that. >> well, talking about sarah palin, she is on cruz's side. have no fear, he's not totally left abandoned. she's one of the few people supporting him. listen to what she had to say today. >> what senator cruz is doing is he's waving this flag and saying, hey, what is the alternative here in fighting for ou

his idea was a little bit different and that was he one of these troops to keep a low profile not dick armey and the russians themselves come in the anti-bolsheviks should be the ones to do it, that's a big foreign army. that's why it's only 8500 troops. his idea is they're going to provide some railways so we can send aid. but we don't want a big invasion because i look at the russians over on the german side. >> host: challah or the troops in siberia? >> guest: the interesting thing is even though they went in to get the russians, what happened was, by the way, wilson made this decision on july 6, 1918. american soldiers started arriving in august, said denver, 1918. they had actually collapsed and sign an armistice. it turns out it was not needed at all. since then, the question is why did they come home? they actually stayed another year and a half after the army. this is what today they called mission creep. you start out with one nation and end up with another. the reason they state the year and a half after the armistice is that wilson again to see the bolsheviks. he was focused on th

moment is a civil war among the republicans where you have people like senator ted cruz of texas, dick armeyin to the democrats and giving in to obama. i think there are some people who want the symbolism of saying we'll shut everything down, we can break this but you will break the whole government and i think hurt the republican party pigging up on charlie's point because politically whenever the government gets shut down in these kind of episodes it is republicans that bear the brunt of the blame. jon: doesn't seem like there is appetite for that even in washington where a lot of crazy things happen. juan williams, charlie hirt. thank you both. >> you're welcome, jon. jenna: we first heard he want ad military strike on syria and now the president is giving diplomacy a chance. ambassador john bolton on what the chance that the dictator will give us his chemical weapons. is this a solution. >>> plus, we remember the for americans killed in the benghazi terror attack one year ago today. the troubling new developments in the tasks to bring the terrorists that murdered them to justice. >>> we

about a week before that, dick armey evoked kevorkian, the euthanasia doctor.nger term question here about the future of the affordable care act. everybody knows right now hillary clinton is the front-runner if she runs for president in 2016. she very well may be our next president and implement the next phases of the affordable care act. you play this out five or ten years, what is this going to look like five or ten years from now? >> if hillary clinton runs for president there is no question she will run as the fiercest possible defender of the affordable care act. she has spoken about it since then. she talked about it the other day at cgi, off in another forum there. and her husband and they will be out there fighting for this as -- it will become her program if she's president. and she will do everything she can to put it in -- and it will become hillary care on the right. they will transition back to, okay -- >> hillary cares what they call it in the '90s. >> and it will be -- we'll revisit all of that. and -- but in a different position because people w

dick armey. that same year after leading an effort to raise premiums and costs for seniors, newt gingrich predicted medicare was -- quote -- "going to wither on the vine." senate majority leader bob dole bragged in 1996 i was there, fighting the fight, voting against medicare because we knew it wouldn't work in 1965. and paul ryan's budget ends medicare as we know it today. so all this brings us to the moment we're in. now republicans are trying to defund the new health reform law, and john boehner, speaker boehner said passage of health reform is armageddon because the law will ruin our country. they said it about social security, they said it about medicare, and now they're saying it about the affordable care act, and the republican party platform in 2012 said obamacare was the high water mark of an outdated liberalism, the latest attempt to impose upon americans a hero style bureaucracy to manage all -- a euro-style bureaucracy to manage all aspects of their lives, unquote. so i felt it was im

former leader in this house, dick armey. mr. president, they opposed social security, they opposed medicare, but, you know, now, madam president, even though they opposed it, social security is popular. democrats, republicans, independents. medicare is popular. why is it popular? madam president, my first elective job was on a big hospital district in nevada. and it was an indigent hospital in some frame of reference, but 40% of the people that were senior citizens that were admitted at that hospital had no health insurance. and we made sure that somebody vouched for their hospital bill. father, mother, son, brother, neighbor and if they didn't pay, we want after them. we had a big collection agent at the hospital. the reason people like medicare is because today virtually 100% of seniors who come into a hospital have medicare, that's why they like it. obamacare. tomorrow in nevada 600,000 people will have the opportunity to sign up on the exchanges -- by the way, the exchanges were established by a republican governor, brian sa

dick armey said, in 1995 -- he was the republican house majority leader. he had eric cantor's job. medicare is -- quote -- "a program i would have no part of in a free world." earth to senior citizens: wake up. the republican leader of the house in 1995 said, medicare iss "a program i would have no part of in a free world." that same year, after leading an effort to raise premiums and costs for senior citizens, newt gingrich predicted that medicare was -- quote -- "going to wither on the vine." so when you hear these republicans rail against obamacare, they railed against medicare, they railed against social security. this is history. this is history. this is why there's a difference in the parties. and listen to this. in 1965, this is what senate majority leader bob dole said on the floor. now, remember, he bragged about this in 1996 during this medicare fight. he said, "i was there, fighting the fight, voting against medicare ... because we knew it wouldn't work in 1965." really? the republicans knew that medicare wouldn't work in 1965. here it is 2013 and people are saying, don'