let's bring in the man behind that, dick bove joins us from tampa, florida. $40 billion, dick? a big number, simon. the reason i think it's appalling is because let's assume that you and i buy houses side by side that are exactly the same, we pay the exact same amount of money to buy those houses, you put down $40,000, i put down $5,000, you keep making your payments on a regular basis so you've knocked down the principal another $10,000, i put down -- i'm sorry, i pay virtually nothing and the prices of the houses both houses being exactly the same drop by the same amount 20%, well, i still got equity -- i'm sorry, you still have equity in that house because you've been making your payments. i have no equity in that house, i'm under water because i made no payments and i didn't put any money down. so the government says you who have made your payments, saved the money for the down payment, you get nothing. me, because i made no payments because i didn't put hardly any money down, i get to see the value of my loan taken down. >> let me -- let me -- a lot of people will have gre