face republican attacks in the aftermath of an event like this. >> it was a very harsh attack by dick cheneye past week and a lot of democrats suggest that it was way beyond the pale given that the situation is still developing, and also that cheney seemed to suggest some things that were simply not true. the issue of dick cheney and his criticism of the obama administration came up this morning on "meet the press" with john brennan and david gregory asking the question. let's roll that and i'll get your reaction. >> i'm very disappointed in the vice president's comments. i'm neither republican nor democrat. i've worked for the past five administrations and either the vice president is willfully mischaracterizing this president's position, both in terms of the language he uses and the actions he's taken, or he's ignorant of the facts. and in either case it doesn't speak westerly what the vice president is doing. >> willfully mischaracterizing the president or the alternative is that he just doesn't know the facts. what do you make of it? >> well, that's obviously a very strong rebuttal and i

that's what dick cheney is saying which is misguided. you would think that president obama was in amsterdam giving out visa, letting the guy on the plane. there was nothing the obama administration could do to stop the guy from get on the plane. >> with great, great, great respect that's what president carter was saying constantly was that mr. bush instigated the war, constant criticism about that and constant criticism from former vice president gore. so, this is a given, a political life. there's going to be vicious criticism back and forth. the real question is what could be done to motivate the bureaucracy and now i'll let the other people talk. >> terry, listen, i just think that people out there sit and listen to the former vice president sort of going after the president saying he's not taking this seriously enough. and i want to read you a quote from congressman eric mass mass democrat from new york, i, for one, sick and tired of the bush era chicken hawk politicians that never served in uniform attacking democrats on national se

our approval ratings are at dick cheney's level. wow want to be more popular than dick cheney. we start unemployment at 10%. how many people want to go back to a year ago and try the other half. chris: all the numbers are up. >> on both of these issues. he can turn this aren't. if allies come onboard and give things to america in concrete terms, then system of these storylines could be different at the end of these years. chris: let's take a look at the more afemoral ones. that obama's a push over. the passing of health care that was supposed to be done until last august and slipped all the way until now. and the white house is chicago style very stuff. here's john boehner making this point . is shutting down politics and demonizing. chris: how can he be both the problem? >> sure. president obama and the white house, may have a problem with that they've set themselves up. for instance, they've come out and saying that we're the most open white house. we're very open. we're releasing these visitor logs. blah,lah, blah, and the reality is, it's not that open. you saw what happene

charles, was dick cheney really the point man for criticism when it came to the republican side?> he was. and i think it was remarkable how successful he was. given the history and how the media and others have treated him. he actually -- there was a dueling speeches. the cheney speech and then obama spoke within a few hours of each other and cheney was the winner on that. i think the effect he had was that "a," he legitimized criticism of what obama was doing, which i think was rather lax. but secondly, i think it actually inhibited obama. he's kept some of the policies that the bush administration had in place, detention without trial rendition, he's tried to do the guantanamo, which he committed himself to the most egregious thing he did of course was the putting of sheikh mohammed, giving him a trial in new york. but there has been moderate and continuity, as if it's a tribute obama is paying to the bush administration, adopting indeed what it had denounced in word. >> bret: a.b., was vice president cheney effective? >> in a party without a leader, dick cheney stepped in and

what about dick cheney's complaints? >> well, i think he had his eight years, and he's caused a lot of trouble for our country and perpetuated a war in iraq unnecessary and wrong-headed. i would say it would be best he not be so critical right now. but i'm still not only critical of that policy, i think the policy remains the same, and we've hear it on the show tonight already. they are on attack and declared war against us, and it's always they and them. but who are they? after 9/11, 14 or 15 of the terrorists came from saudi arabia. i mean, we didn't attack saudi arabia. we attacked iraq. so it doesn't make sense. those individuals were trained or at least planned in germany and spain. some of them got trained here in the united states. so you don't declare war against these countries and say that we have to go in and start bombing pakistan and bombing afghanistan and bombing yemen. they happen to be there. that's true. but they're there because we stimulate them. we follow them to the hands of osama bin laden by us go

and on february 11th a story that the media still talks about three years later, vice-president dick cheneyccidentally shoots and wounds his 78-year-old hunting partner, harry whittington while on a quail hunt at a ranch in texas. the hunting accident, it's sort of the gift that keeps on giving for main street media, isn't it judy? >> it really did. we went straight from the pictures of people stranded on roof tops in new orleans, the inability of the federal government to the bush administration to respond, straight, straight to dick cheney shooting his friend with a rifle. i mean, it couldn't have been better. >> shotgun. >> shotgun. >> there we go. >> na, na. >> i'm not an outdoor girl. >>, but you know, it really set the entire tone, anything was fair game now. >> and fair game, was the coverage fair? >> it was fair enough. >> i mean. >> yeah. if no one dies these stories are a lot more fun. >> if joe biden had done it he'd be center ice on "saturday night live," too. >> jon: all right, time for another break, more on the coverage of the top stories of this decade. >> the press focused

president obama has been consistently critical of the cia and what dick cheney, former vice president characterizes as enhanced interrogation, which mr. obama as president outlawed. the president denies that he's witch hunting. >> i have the utmost respect for the cia. i don't want witch hunts taking place. i've also said, though that the attorney general has a job to uphold the law, but i continue to believe that nobody's above the law. >> attorney general eric holder acting on president obama's directive has announced an investigation to see whether the cia denied the civil rights of 9/11 actors such as khalid shaikh mohammed during the bush/cheney presidency. holder says the investigation, begun in april '09, would be sweeping and bowelless. it is still underway. >> we're going to follow the evidence wherever it takes us. we'll follow the law wherever t no one is above the law. >> question. when president obama was a senator, his liberal rating on a 0 to 100 scale was 100, liberal. as a card carrying liberal, is president obama ideologically hostile to the cia and the intelligence

affiliate's -- dick cheney's affiliate's. -- affiliates. they are not investing in protective of vehicles and one bit. let's have a network, our soldiers are coming back, sickened by cancer or other things. host: thank you for your call this morning. one more from "the wall street journal." open-" two main political parties in the u.k., kicking off a busy election year, each showing themselves off as a party that will defend public services -- even as the u.k. tackles its record public debt. prime minister gordon brown is expected to call elections in many and what is seen as the most dramatic uk vote since the labor party swept to power in 1997." one more call on the fed from mount olive, mississippi. good morning. caller: good morning, bill. happy new year. i would like to comment that congress has a responsibility to regulate the value of our money. that is the biggest problem that we have got. the federal reserve, they are not even supposed to be a federal reserve. we have got a problem with an imbalance in prices, we farmers are not re

i have a question about dick cheney. feel that our former vice president has made statements that have been an absolute invitation for more vigorous attempts to attack our country. after the bush administration made a huge bureaucracy out of our counter-terrorism efforts, i think it will take some time for president obama to streamline them. i'm wondering why more of our national security people are not speaking out against the un american dangerous rhetoric of our former vice president after he and george bush decided to completely ignore unprecedented warnings of the coming attack on 9/11. guest: this is a topic that people get emotional about. i am not suggesting you are excessively emotional. it is interesting how politics and domestic security get mixed up. her point is, to the comments by the former vice president invite more acts of terrorism? john brennan, who is now the homeland security adviser has essentially said i'm not a democrat or republican, but those remarks are unfair. he has gone out to defend preside

dick cheney was influential because he was talking to george bush.in the obama administration. whoever is the last voice is still speaking to mr. obama but this is an administration formed by the president. the one who matters the most depends very much on the sun deck but within that circle, -- circle but within that circle, mr. biden is very prominent. host: otherwise, hillary clinton, james jones. the vice-president, what is his main focus in foreign policy? guest: there is a focus -- meaning, what place in the world are the most knowledgeable about? i think beyond that, this source of influence is this sense that he is giving advice based on decades of experience in the world. he knows everybody, he has been everywhere. there is kind of a there is a deep knowledge of people and places with joe biden. when there are questions on how we balance our relations with russia what to do in afghanistan, joe biden is an important voice. . . came out a few weeks before the president announced a troop increase to afghanistan. do you have a sense of what role

. >> dick cheney and others, including sarah palin, continue to pound president obama on the terror issue. even as the president has asked them to stop. >> now is not a time for partisanship. it's a time for citizenship. a time to come together and work together. >> we'll address this explosive issue. exactly how are liberals defending the secret health care proceedings? we'll find out. >> i'm a little sick of the smears. >> it's time to put up some facts or shut up. >> glenn beck on why he is responding to his critics. also a big announcement about the bold fresh tour. >> i guess i'm suffering from some sort of overwhelming paranoia. >> caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. "the factor" begins right now. >>> hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thank you for watching us tonight. our conservatives undermining president obama's war on terror? that is the subject of tonight's memo. the president continues to tell americans he'll fix the intelligence failures that allowed the underwear guy to almost blow up an american jet liner. but the president also appealed for a united front against terro

. >> translator: might not have been all that different from dick cheney.[laughter] >> so we over at the journalism school sometimes use a bad choice of words as my daughter calls wtf. can anybody guess, what the fudge? that to me was a wtf in molly's life. i hope molly is laughing now when hearing this. i presume she's laughing. she's laughing and having. the thought that someone would say holly -- excuse me, that molly was going to be engaged to dick cheney. [laughter] >> that's an open. maybe the world would have been different. maybe molly would have exercised behavior modification. and i don't mean -- i don't mean in a way that dick cheney probably of course did. dopamine to get political on you for a second. to try to keep the narrative on track. the man whom she was engaged to be married to -- let me just read one last thing your she was engaged, they're going to be married. friend to literally grew up with mullah and stay with her through different phases of her life sometimes viewed her through the prism of her relationship with her fiancÉ and her

the question of dick cheney pifking on a sittipifk i picking on a sitting president is another discussion >> one i think we're going to have eventually. thanks. >>> in our next hour, from the stock market to the real estate sector, what can you expect from the economy this year. you're watching msnbc sunday. ( whooshing ) announcer: you could buy 300 bottles of water. or just one brita filter. ( drop plinks ) brita-- better for the environment and your wallet. research shows that dancing bis good for your heart.nt so is fish oil. nature made fish oil protects your heart, so you can dance great and live great every day. learn more at naturemade.com. nature made. fuel your greatness. >>> a world's tallest building is set to open tomorrow in dubai. over 2,600 feet. the long-awaited tower will be seen from 59 miles away. the skyscraper's opening is expected to be watched by 2 billion people around the world, complete with fireworks. scott, just as an architect what do you make of what they're trying to do? >> i think these guys have made a really elegant building. i think it is pretty fantast

former vice president dick cheney said this past week. how do you respond? >> i'm disappointed in the vice president's comments. i'm neither a republican or a democrat. i worked for the past five administration. either the vice president is willfully miss characterizing this president's position both in terms of language he uses and the actions he's taken or he's -- it doesn't speak well what if the vice president is doing. clear evidence is that this president has been very, very strong in his inaugural address he said we're at war with this international network of terrorists. we continue to say we're at war with al qaeda, we're trying to give it clarity and we have taken the fight to them. we continued in fact many of the activities of the previous administration. i would not have come back into this that this president was not committed to prosecuting this war against al qaeda and every day i see it in the president's face, i see it in the actions he's taken so i'm confident that this country is in fact protected by this president's position on al qaeda

and i mean dick cheney would do well heed the counsel his alleged superior, the man who put hion the ticket, george w. sh who when asked to criticize president ama says i owe him my silence. and compared to dick chene george bush ought to be on mt. rushmore. he looks more like that every passing ek. >> if wery to look forward now,ow do these events and the new things you just talked aut, the counterterrorism, the intelligence problems that have noween reraised, how does that colicate the presidt's agenda going rward? >> well,o me the one lesson is we wl never get out of paying attentioto the islamix -- islamic extremists, thisill just be an issue that will pop up infghanistan there pop up here at home. >> and i suspect the big story, one of the bi stories of thiyear will be iran cause it's just huge what is hapning over there, whe we have a regime that has lost legitimacy, tt knows it has lost legiticy and is in pursuit of nlear weapons, the dissoing 6 the regime, ing after nucleaweapons, these things will occupy us fo the next several years so, it is just one me lesson. we thi we ca

a war of words between the white house and former vice-president dick cheney, he says the president isng we are at war. we're going to ask cheney's former colleague karl rove about that ahead. >> apartment lit best of "fox & friends." i don't remember approving this. >> bacon suit approved. >> i would have liked to zoo some of these clips before we air them, but i won't get that option. >> and dave in a hamster ball. >> the clippers. >> oh, yeah, the clippers. >> and a lot of embarrassing stuff all morning. >> oh, good, it's coming up. try scrubbing bubbles toilet cleaning gel. stamp it in and for a whole week... it cleans and freshens. toilet cleaning gel. the freshest way to keep a toilet clean. and it lasts up to 6 weeks. now that's great value. sc johnson, a family company. >> >> welcome back here to "fox & friends." former vice-president dick cheney is questioning president obama my suggestion-- suggesting, excuse me, that he's too soft on terror. we're joined this morning by former senior advisor to president george w. bush and fox news contributor charles rove, nice to see you.

there is some -- you know he could be in one of those dick cheney hiding under ground places, he knows somebody in low places. we have not seen him. i want to see him the fat lip and the black eye,ky not help it i think it is funny this little blonde swedish chick beat the crap out of him. >> we know he is not near oprah. that's a black woman. >> that's right, that's not his gig although maybe if oprah had some plastic surgery he may reconsider. >> what else. >> or oprah was a cocktail waitress that helps or a stripper at scores. >> are you buying the idea that he needs to therapy? >> yes i think he needs therapy i'm going to give it to him. [ laughter ] >> i have several sessions i mapped it out and what happens we're having sex while he is writing checks out to me i want to get him. we're going to have that ambien sex that he enjoys. >> are you a sports fan? do you have teams you enjoy. were you a fan. >> a giants -- i'm a sports expert i love football. i'm cheering for the buck areduces and the red eyes. they are going to have a strong season and -- i know nothing about sports. >> t

affiliate's -- dick cheney's affiliate's. -- affiliates. they are not investing in protective of vehicles and one bit. let's have a network, our soldiers are coming back, sickened by cancer or other things. host: thank you for your call this morning. one more from "the wall street journal." open-" two main political parties in the u.k., kicking off a busy election year, each showing themselves off as a party that will defend public services -- even as the u.k. tackles its record public debt. prime minister gordon brown is expected to call elections in many and what is seen as the most dramatic uk vote since the labor party swept to power in 1997." one more call on the fed from mount olive, mississippi. good morning. caller: good morning, bill. happy new year. i would like to comment that congress has a responsibility to regulate the value of our money. that is the biggest problem that we have got. the federal reserve, they are not even supposed to be a federal reserve. we have got a problem with an imbalance in prices, we farmers are not re

guest: i don't think dick cheney or any american has got the fear of one of these terrorists getting loose in a court room. i think we can make sure that they remain locked up and down arms. i come up on one hand, am a democrat, and passions get up, i am on the side of the color, -- on the side of the caller, but at the same time, i would rather see some passions get down, and rather than say democrats are good or bad. host: we have this twitter comment. guest: actually, susan, sanctions did work on iraq. we just did not realize it. the sanctions on iraq hollowed out saddam's military, the sanctions on iraq prevented him from even regaining his stock of chemical weapons. he was so afraid of the overall international effort. the sanctions worked with regard to south africa. they don't always work. as to china, i think that' to be truly effective, our sanctions need to be worldwide, and we have got to let china know that their continued access to u.s. markets depends upon their cooperation with us on the iran issue. but even without chinese support, all the technology is european, a va

and i don't mean in the way that dick cheney did by the way to get political. i try to keep the narrative on track. the man whom she was engaged to be married to -- let me just read one last thing. she was engaged. they were going to be married. frenzy literally grew up with molly stick with it to the different phases of her life. sometimes you'd molly to the prism of her relationship with her fiancÉ, given her political inclinations or constitution of the most difficult to imagine that tank collins was the most important person in her life. their relationship was so far removed from those forgotten ditches in houston i want buffalo bayou where the mosquito larva made the fetid water shake far from the shotgun shacks on the edge of her broke i'm aware she had grown up. and for the shotgun shacks illini might have just given up far from the putrid smell and cranking up of the refineries that paid for her own college education. given molly's final evolution, it would be difficult, very difficult for france to think that she was once willing to entertain thoughts

>> dick cheney. >> what was his job? >> i thought he almost shot bush. >> he almost shot bush where? >> trying to catch a turkey. >> trying catch a turkey he almost shot president bush. who is this? >> lionel richie. >> i thought it was lionel richie. you can laugh at them but who is dumber. the jersey shore cast or those who call the jersey shore cast dumb? they never said they were members of mensa. the only pompous jerks who ever tell you they are from mensa are from mensa. they are only proud of their abs. the fact they are honest about their shallowness puts them on an intellectual plain higher than gwyneth paltrow and another gwyneth paltrow combined. it is disgusting but we know it is disgusting. what is more dangerous is the crap that is disgusting but passes itself off as enlightening. i'm not just referring to "the view" but also the climate conference and any cnn special on race. why obsess over punks slaughtered in hair gel when you have nancy pelosi and harry reid with their hands on the wheel. in sum, lay o

do you think it's a good idea what dick cheney did? >> nobody was concerned about that when everybody criticized president bush day in and day out including testimonies calling him names when he was trying to prosecute the car in iraq. and vice president cheney is entitled to his view. i share some of them, not all of them. my hope is -- and i mean this. i hope that this administration does a mid course correction much like president clinton did. which i thought showed president clinton's practicality to terms of being fair. he has gone too far to the left, president obama. and much like president clinton and he then accomplished a wealth of things. i hope president obama is in a learning process and we soo a change for the good of the country. forget partisan politics. i would like to see him reverse his decision on the trial in new york. and i would like to them treat them like enemy combatants. if he made corrections like that that would show great leadership. >> larry: you are in the security business. what do you think of the newa

. >> from a purely political perspective, not to disagree with rich or mike, but dick cheney is not thehe republican party wants out there. to my mind, that is an indispewsable fact. this is someone who is deeply unpopular among many republicans. whether he is correct on the merits of it, having him, an older white male was reminiscent of the republican party rejected in 2006 is bad politics. >> the statement was that obama doesn't think we're at war. this is one we can referee. it's not true. obama has said that repeatedly. >> let's get to something, an area where the president could be open to some criticism, the president went to the national terrorism center earlier i think it was in october of this year. let's listen to what he said then. >> you are setting the standard. you're showing us what focused and integrated counterterrorism really looks like. the record of your service is written in the attacks that never occurred because you thwarted them. >> here is what president obama said earlier this week about the same center. >> when our government has information on a known extrem

because he realized, look, if that plane had gone down, dick cheney would be on the airwaves saying, see, i told you. this guy is weak, he let it happen. and the political implications for president obama if this doesn't work, if he doesn't solve this problem, are off the charts. >> thank you, bob. we'll be calling on you frequently. good luck with the book. >> thanks. >>larry: bob woodward. michael chernoff and don elaponte are here in 60 seconds. we are building a website by ourselves. announcer: there's an easier way. create your own business site with intuit websites. just choose a style, then customize, publish and get found. sweet. get a 30-day free trial at intuit.com. >>larry: some breaking news for you before we meet two outstanding public servants. before obama called his security team for a breakdown in intelligence gathering, cnn learned that security cameras who would have recorded the man who walked through newark international airport sunday were working, but they were not recording. that's according to a spokesman for transportation security administration. the former

because he realized, look, if that plane had gone down, dick cheney would be on the airwaves saying, see, i told you. this guy is weak, he let it happen. and the political implications for president obama if this doesn't work, if he doesn't solve this problem, are off the charts. >> thank you, bob. we'll be calling on you frequently. good luck with the book. >> thanks. >> larry: bob woodward. trate me. in a basketball game a couple minutes could mean a big momentum shift. my bayer meter is very important. (announcer) only bayer's contour meter has programmable personal high low settings. it allows me to be able to look at my highs and lows to make sure that my diabetes is being controlled as tightly as possible. with my bayer meter i don't miss valuable game time. i'm alana burns and staying in the game is my simple win. (announcer) the contour meter, only from bayer. who's not answering. announcer: there's a better way. intuit quickbooks online p9 organizes your business in one place, and helps you stay on top of your business anytime, anywhere. get a 30-day free trial at intuit.com

say what you want about dick cheney or george bush. we had a sense of urgency and it's been lost in the past year. >> larry: hold on. one at a time. stephanie? >> are you kidding me? what george bush -- that was a sense of urgency? he sat in a classroom looking like he went in his pants for god's sake. it took him how many minutes to respond? he flew over hurricane katrina how many days after it happened? that's ridiculous. had the information. >> larry: let me get a break. when we come back -- one at a time. we'll be back in 60 seconds. [ announcer ] if you think about it, this is a lot like most job search sites. - they let everyone in, - [ crowd groans ] so the best people can't stand out. join theladders.com. the premium job site for only $100k+ jobs... and only $100k+ talent. >> larry: president obama had a message today for the muslim world and also for al qaeda. watch. >> we know that the vast majority of muslims reject al qaeda, but it is clear that al qaeda increasingly seeks to recruit individuals without known terrorist affi

. >> reporter: to the dick cheney. is the famous fly move, based on a national incident when robert got caught on camera when he thought he was off camera. >> i see the flies zooming around and i started reaching for it. >> reporter: sure there have been dancing weather men on youtube. even dancing iraqi anchor men. and one of wgn's own reporters couldn't keep still. >> i got to do my thing. i'll be right back. >> reporter: but this takes choreography. >> 30! >> 30, oh, no! >> she would try to go with me, poke my eyes out -- >> reporter: borrowed from the three stooges. but don't call these two stooges. >> i try to add moves, she won't let me add new moves. onces that i like. >> ask him what his move was, please. >> i want to do the chest bump. >> reporter: next commercial had you take a bath from break, remember these two breaking into their routine, working it right down to the last second. >> ten seconds coming up to a voice-over! >> we made it. >> reporter: back to the world of mayhem and destruction. >> three, two

do you think it's a good idea what dick cheney did? you know, larry, nobody was really concerned about that when everyone criticized president bush day in and day out including democrats calling him all kinds of names when he was trying to prosecute the war in iraq. and the reality is that's just part of the first amendment, part of debate. vice president cheney is entitled to his view. i share some of them. i don't share all of them. my hope is -- and i mean this. i hope that this administration does a midcourse correction much like president clinton did, which i always thought showed essentially president clinton's practice tickality in terms of being president. i think he's gone way too far to the left, president obama. president clinton had some of those problems early in his administration, he made a midcourse correction and then accomplished a lot of good things. welfare reform, other things like that, criminal justice reform. i hope president obama is in a learning process and we see a change for the good of the country, forget

dick cheney said he was offended. . called it absurd. the washington post editorialized that, quote, lately the organization has tended to save its most vitriolic condemnation not for dictators but for the united states and. it was a clear attempt to try to discredit this organization. i have followed washington politics long enough to know that when top officials attack you instead of ignoring you it is because they are scared of you. the white house's attack on the group's credibility for me at that time was a clear affirmation of amnesty international integrity and power. we are talking about look bush administration but it is important to note that president obama signed the national defense authorization act that endorses another attempt by the u.s. government to conduct military commission trial. amnesty international and irene khan are once again pushing and changing the way we see human rights. in a new campaign called demand dignity amnesty international is seeking to leave poverty caused to human-rights. irene khan argues that

of that, not only from rudy gullianfully but other republicans, including former vice president dick cheney as we move forward. this is an issue that continues to vex the white house and issue republicans critical on this issue will continue to criticize the president on, alex. >> not surprisingly, john decker. thanks. >>> starting monday, a new lineup. 9:00 eastern, the premier of the "dale "daily rundown," exclusive with rahm emanuel and the dylan ratigan show. at 4:00 p.m. eastern, the place for politics. as small businesses are busy reinventing the economy, small business owners have a lot of questions. can paperless billing get me paid faster? how can i keep my best employees? how can i bring down my insurance costs? and while at american express open we may not have all the answers, we know who does. other owners. that's why we're helping business owners connect. together, we're building a community for them to talk, share and help each other. a place called openforum.com where owners can swap ideas and ask questions. will tweeting get me more customers? how can i make my business gre

house to sort of hit back hard at your critics and engage in this sort of mud slinging that maybe dick cheneyhe obama white house into doing. i suppose there's a danger for the obama white house if they go too far in trying to engage the critics. >> you don't want to re-run the 2004 election really. that was the one that was really about terror. in 2000 it was barely mentioned. in 2008, much of the country was anti-war, which is how barack obama could get elected. we're trying to find our balance with these issues and i think the white house does have to hit back because if you leave the charges unanswered, they take on a life of their own. but you're right, the president and the other officials have to find a way to respond that doesn't look like they're in a sandbox fight, that this is a juvenile exercise in finger pointing, as opposed to a serious effort to find the vulnerabilities in our national security and to find a new way to combat extremism that goes beyond responding militarily, because that doesn't work, as evidenced by the last eight years, and two, we don't have the resources to

>> if you're going to make that argument, maybe we should blame dick cheney and george w.e the ones after all that let these guys out of guantanamo bay who went to yemen who insisted on putting this plot together. karen hunter? >> i couldn't agree with you more. you took the words right out of my mouth. i think we should blame first the terrorists but we should also blame the people who are responsible formakering sure that people don't get on planes with bombs in their underwear. there was a breakdown clearly. this man should have never been on a plane. now america has to suffer because this man didn't do his job. whoever didn't do their job ought to be fired, yeah. but it should be accountability at the top first with the people who are in charge of keeping us safe. david, i couldn't agree with you more. >> eleanor clift, by every indication there was plenty of intelligence that was available, that the problem came and that these systems that were supposed to have been put in place after 9/11 to better be able to sift through the intelligence, analyze it and bring it all

i mean, i think that you saw in dick cheney's statements over the weekend, i think sometimes he has amnesia and forgets that he and george bush up until 11 months were in charge of this system which seems like it was broken for a long time. >> dave, we get closer and closer to the midterm elections and as we watch how congress responds and the president is well to this frightening situation we had on christmas day and we watch health care be implemented and the stimulus continue to move forward and who knows what else is in store, we have to wonder about what the most important issue will be for the voters when it comes to these midterm elections and foreign policy seems like it could move into a much more important position, not just afghanistan now, but we have concerns about yemen and let's not forget also iran. how do you think both sides will deal with that? >> well, clearly as a result of what happened on christmas day, the concern about terrorism jumped dramatically. having said that, the number one issue is going to be jobs still. as long as unemployment is at 10%, that's where peop

. >> dick cheney has it dead right.this administration has not put out a clear vision of how they are going to handle national security. and what we're going to stop close guantanamo, not done. we're surprised and amazed that the dots weren't connected on what happened on december 25th. the american people don't trust the direction this is going. if you can't call a thing what it is and that is terrorism people wonder if you know what to do with it. that's where we are right now. >> governor kaine. >> the president's approach to terrorism has been praised by many of the bush administration leaders across the board from the day he's come into office. when the incident happened on the air flight into detroit it was a matter of days before republican leaders were trying to use it in fundraising letters making all kinds of outrageous claims such as the president never uses the word terror. as you know that's ridiculous. he uses it all the time in speeches. they have been claiming that the way that this recent suspect is bei

i wonder if this person is working for dick cheney. that is the simplest explanation.litical angle of this is not quite surprising. especially from some of the charges and countercharges you see, there's not much substance to what has been said in the last few days. people are looking for to the 2010 elections. the caller is pointing out some of the failings of the cia and state department and other agencies. to find some kind of political motivation behind the failings, or some of the responses is perhaps reaching. host: there is not dead in this morning's "washington post" and he questions why to bet is on this list. he says there is no history of radical islam there, or hardly any history of islam there at all. guest: i lived for a long time in miami. miami is probably the reason why cuba is still on the list. the very big population of cuban exiles in miami are very politically active. they or listened to by a administrations. there have been incidents from the past were the castro government has supported things we would consider terrorism. that is one reason why