and invited me over he didn't say she was going to dick cheney there. he goes to show a couple things about roche. one thing he views this as a governing decision on a political decision. becoming the next interviewer right on most or all that stuff, but that's politics. my job is to worry if something happened to me who would the country have confidence in? second abolish of his style which is he likes to have people around him who have strong opinions or in many not agree with this and are willing to lay him out in a respectful, straightforward way in front of others who might have a different opinion. and it was quite an experience. >> host: did your opinion of dick cheney change over the eight years? >> guest: well, my opinion of him when i left the room i said great as irritated the guy who will be the next vice president. and then we became friends. he never help it against me. he said that was my job. my job was to go to those questions and not take it personal. >> host: with a roving campaign? >> guest: is not what is normally depict it. the ugl

i like to see dick cheney exposed. chris matthews called him the troll that's under the bridge. >> larry: what's your read on him, on dick cheney? >> you know, i wish, as we were just talking about, i wish anybody in the democratic party had that sort of fortitude, that sort of perseverance to stick by what he thinks is right. i'm not questioning his sincerity. i question his intelligence. i don't think he reads things right, that we use the army to fight terrorism is just wrong. they don't have an army, they have exploding underwear. it's just not a wise decision. but he's also -- what i don't admire is he's a liar, you know. >> larry: whoa. >> yes, he is. joe biden had that correct. for him to go after the democrats for treating terrorists the exact same way his administration did. and, of course -- >> larry: treat who wrong? >> many of them. they were all tried in courts in america and all put away. if i was a criminal or terrorist, whatever you want to call them, yes, i would fear the most a prosecutor, a seasoned

. >> we have a great healthcare system if you are a sheik or dick cheney. >> that's not true. >> we have a great healthcare system if you have healthcare. >> a clarification question. >> yes. >> we are talking about healthcare and doesn't that include dental care? >> it could be. >> it is like delta dental. >> i was in the sorority delta dental. i pledged. >> i think they ticked you out when they found out your horrible, horrible secret. >> it is not just humans with tales of whoa. it is robots. here is one right now telling us what has made his life hard. >> hello, greg. thank you for having me on your show, and congratulations on your weight loss you look fantastic. as for bill shultz, i wish i could leave robot village and purchase a gun. then i would shoot him in the face and dump his disgusting body. and then i would dance like a cheerful chip monk as it was reduced to tiny morsels of flesh. sorry to digress. the dpakt is, as a robot, i have not experienced much suffering in my life. my father happened to be a vacuum cleaner. he jammed the whole thing with industrial strength lotion

george bush and dick cheney vae vetoed the idea. that disturbed me. number one, did they want this guy to escape so they left him an out? number two, what are these two bozos doing making a combat decision to an elite delta force member or delta force commander when you got dick cheney who got five deferments from vietnam and you got george bush who couldn't make it to one year's national guard meetings? these guys are making a command combat decision to the elite delta force, and then all you heard from them was, we let our generals call the shots. well, it clearly wasn't that case in the book i read by dalton furey, who was the commander of the u.s. forces chasing osama bin laden in tora bora right after 9/11. >> larry: did you agree with us going to afghanistan? >> initially i did, because i felt that, you know, they were the people, al qaeda was the people who attacked us, and that we needed to go get these people if they're going to continue it attack us, absolutely. i did not agree at all with iraq. they told us there were these 19 hijackers, la

was it just last month, ed, you said they ought to rip out the heart of dick cheney?tting the best health care in the country. wait a minute. no, no -- >> it's that kind of rhetoric. it comes from both sides. >> it's not rhetoric. the fact is that was said on a radio talk show and that doesn't excuse it, but the fact is i said, we want a successful conclusion for the vice president because we want him to become the poster child. everybody in the country should have the same health care as dick cheney because most -- >> rip his heart out, ed? >> wait a minute. and stuff it back in him and make sure he survives and has the best health care. you know, this is what happens in america. making a joke and then -- >> my point is it happens on both sides. >> no, it doesn't happen on both sides because i haven't cut anybody's fuel line, ernest. you know that. >> ted kusinski, the uni bomber murdered people. he was an environmental extremist. it does happen on both sides. >> it's not happening on both sides at this level. you know it's not. >> i received death threats. i had a m

>> unlike dick cheney he wasn't calling someone that name. >> bill: no.ut did he not see the microphone there? you see, it picks it up. >> he was jubilant. american people. come on. >> bill: when you are jubilant, colmes, do you use that word. >> never unless -- i think it but i never -- >> bill: you never get that jubilant. >> hardly ever. now, u.s.a. gallup poll today shows that things have turned around. most americans, 4 wers, not most, close to most support this health care plan things are changing now. >> bill: let's let that shake out for a couple of days. how about gloating in the face of a very controversial situation? do you think that's wise? >> i'm not sure i would use the word gloating. look, i think they are celebrating. certainly you would have the right-wing celebrating if they were able to defeat this bill, you could be sure they would be gloating. >> bill: that is true. >> that's just the way it is. people tend to -- >> bill: gloating on one side makes it okay to gloat on the other side. >> i wouldn't say that. it's part of the human con

this dick cheney on february 4, 2009. said when we get people who are more concerned about reading the rights to an al qaeda terrorist than they are with protecting the united states against people who are absolutely committed to doing everything they can to kill americans than i worry. these are evil people and we are not going to win this fight by turning our cheap. of it hadn't been for what we did with respect to the enhanced interrogation techniques for high-value detainees, then we would have been attacked again. those policies were put in place in my opinion and perhaps a little crucial to getting us to the last seven plus years without a major casualty attack on the u.s.. there ensued after the statement remarkable dialogue between the newly in not great president and the just having left office vice president on the merits of the necessity for torture in u.s. government policy. it was remarkable couple of months that culminated in president obama's speech to the national archives and the speech given on the same

british intelligence that saddam hussein had attempted to acquire yellowcake uranium in africa by dick cheney. not true. he was wrong when he elected that his report would've come back shared with administration officials, the president, vice president at the highest levels of the white house. not true. when media adviser condi rice at block the president, that was not true. never even made it to the white house. wei said he tried to members of vice cheney's staff and they had assured him it had been blocked to the passage of the president, that was simply not true. he was wrong when he said he disapproved of the british claim. he never understood and never knew the basic of the british claim was. he said he was conclusive in attempting saddam had never do it. he came back and reported about a previously unknown accounts by saddam's people working through third-party to force the government to accept a trade delegation. and the government said we only trade one thing. we're not taking saddam's trade delegation. we know that he was one. in fact find out lied when he said he was the guy that di

. >> did your opinion of dick cheney change over the eight years? >> well, my opinion of him, you know , when i left the room, i thought oh, great. i've irritated the guy that's likely to be the vice president. cheney said i gray -- i agree with what you had to say. we became great friends. he said that was my job. my job was to think through those questions. he wasn't going to take it personally. >> host: what's a rovian campaign? >> it's not what it's normally depicted. in the book, chapter four, the ugly things that people say are at the heart. most of which are fear base, fear base, mud ball politics. i have a couple of great quotes in there. the one that's my personal favorite is the guy said rove and his minions never stop. based on a very, very negative view of the lek rat. you know, those fundamentally say the electorate that can be won over for senate, governor, or president are motivated by those base instincts. i think we reject them. people who cross those lines and run those kind of campaigns tend to lose. in fact, tend to lose a lot. b

obviously doesn't seem to think biden's curse word was a gasp and remember when the vice president dick cheneysed the same word, but aimed it as a u.s. senator? not many people cared then either. sure, there used to be words you would use, but now tell me, exactly where is that polite society? send your answers to that question to mcginty's mail bag. the address is mailbag@wusa9.com. that is our report. i'll be back here tonight. we'll see you monday at 7:00. as for later tonight, i'll be right back here with anita brikman at 11:00. don't forget, log on any time you like at wusa9.com. i'll see you later. hi. i'm jim perdue. in case of everyday emergencies... guys, go get changed! ...or soccer practice, it's important to be prepared for dinner. that's why i've prepared my perdue perfect portions fresh chicken breasts. they're individually wrapped, so you can cook what you need and store what you don't. we're not playing helicopter now. ready when you are, they're trimmed of fat and consistently sized to cook in just 10 minutes. life's not perfect. that's why there's perdue perfect portions. [ m

british intelligence that saddam hussein attempted yellowcake uranium in africa at the behest of dick cheney. not true. he was wrong when he alleged that his report when they came back was shared with administration of rituals the president, vice president at the highest levels of the white house. not true. when you pledge condi rice personally block it from being presented to the president, that was untrue. and he said he personally talked with members of vice president cheney staff and they assured him it had been blocked, that was simply not true. he was wrong when he said that he disproved the british claim. he never understood and never knew what the basis of the british claim was. he was wrong when he said he was conclusive in proving that saddam had ever attempted to do it four in fact, when he came back he came back and reported about a previously unknown attempts by saddam's attempt to force the government to accept a trade delegation and the government said wait a minute, we only trade one thing and it is on the international sanctions lists. we are not taking saddam's list. we kno

and it was quite an experience. >> host: did your opinion of dick cheney change over the years? >> guest: my opinion of him when i left the room i felt great if irritated the guy. he's likely to be the next vice president. as we walked out he said i agree with some of which you had to say. we became friends and he never held it against me. it says something about cheney. he says that was my job, to think through those questions and he wasn't going to take it personal. >> host: what is a rookie in campaign? >> guest: it's not what it's normally detected. in the chapter for a talk about the ugly things people say are the heart of supposedly the kind campaigns i ron, most of which are fear based, mud ball politics and i have a couple of quotes from people who commented. one is my personal favorite the guy says rove and his minions never stops surprising me coming up with something that would even shock a 60 year old greyhound bus station hooker, and of quote. those views are based on a very, very negative view of the electorate. you know, this fundamentally say the electric can be

dick cheney used to play it with a gun, "kill the old guy." too much tickling in congress. later that night on larry king, massa denied that he ever groped anyone and refused to answer this very direct question from larry. >> are you gay? >> well, here's that answer. i'm not going to answer that. in the year 2010, why don't you ask my wife? ask my friends. ask the 10,000 sailors i served with in the navy. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: sure. maybe you should have stopped with the friends. by the way, a reporter did ask some of his old shipmates from the navy, and some said he was known for giving unwanted massages. one sailor said he found massa on the top bunk trying to unbutton his pants and, quote, snorkel him. now -- i don't know exactly what that means, but -- if you're tickling and snorkeling -- you probably have some explaining to do to your wife. tickling your employees is tricky. yes, as an employer, you have to do it, but -- how do you do it properly before a tickle becomes a grope? i don't know. fortunately, we dug up this instructional vid

as in draft dodger dick cheney attacks john kerry for being soft on defense of the country. today house minority whip eric cantor apparently consulted the rove playbook before he accused democrats of fanning the flames of violence in the wake of the health care reform vote. not to be outdone, karl rove himself said more or less the same thing. new threats today against democratic lawmakers, most notably in new york, where fbi hazmat crews responded to a call from anthony weiner's office after the congressman received a letter containing a suspicious white powder. and one received death threats and angry phone calls over his health care vote, like this one. >> hi, mr. mitchell. for the rest of your life, with the vote that you cast, you are going to have to look over your shoulder for as long as you live in this district. you are always going to have to look over your [ bleep ] shoulder, because people in your district hate your [ bleep ] face. and don't you forget it. you have just riled up people's rage. we are filled with rage and hate today towards you. hate like we have

on the other hand, there was an instructive moment with the citizen attempt to arrest dick cheney whichall sort of an extremist position on the left, and this citizen, a canadian citizen came with a pink furry hat on. the way in which the left come for you they come throwing flowers and what happens in this case is not the extremism of views, what we're worried about is the extremism that is also armed, or is prepared to come with guns and with bombs. >> to correct you, karl rove, the attempt on karl rove. >> i'm sorry. karl rove. they mush. >> i have never seen them in the same place together. so it is very possible. it would explain an awful lot, wouldn't it? but back to the point this idea, certainly nobody in our lives, who lived through the '60s or '70s or read about them could not know of the groups like the sds or 68 simbionese liberation sds or the simbionese liberation ar army. what did happen to all of the, militias that just were excuses to make money off of them. what did happen to all of the, you know, armed left wing militias in this country? >> the left got behind gun con

vice-president dick cheney is another one.ause] and former secretary of state, jimmy baker and henry kissinger. [applause] iso appreciate their willingness to stand up for someone they knew. i want to thank my campaign chairman, jim francis, who is here tonight. our co-chairs. my finance chairman. and all the great campaign staff that worked so hard on my behalf. i will always appreciate your courageous support and tireless efforts. i want to single out the farm bureau. i tell you -- if you are ever in the trenches -- [applause] we, in texas, know how important agriculture is in our state. i have worked with the farm bureau throughout my career in the senate and in this campaign and there are no more wonderful, loyal, down-to-earth, good people who will stand on principle no matter the consequences and i love you guys, thank you. [applause] it has been a long road and we have come together to make sure that texas remains what it is today, the greatest state in america. [applause] i will work with governor perry and our fellow

dick cheney to leahy. >> and karl rove's book reveals an f bomb from then governor bush when talking bullock. it was the only time he ever heard george w. bush use it. it's a funny little anecdote about the late democratic -- former democratic lieutenant governor of texas and then george w. bush. >> this is msnbc. ♪ [ woman ] nine iron, it's almost tee-time. time to face the pollen that used to make me sneeze, my eyes water. but with new zyrtec® liquid gels, i get allergy relief at liquid speed. that's the fast, powerful relief of zyrtec®, now in a liquid gel. zyrtec® is the fastest 24-hour allergy medicine. it works on my worst symptoms so i'm ready by the time we get to the first hole. and that's good because the competition's steep today. new zyrtec® liquid gels work fast, so i can love the air.™ caused by a completely blocked artery, another heart attack could be lurking, waiting to strike. a heart attack caused by a clot, one that could be fatal. but plavix helps save lives. plavix taken with other heart medicines, goes beyond what other heart medicines do alone, to provide grea

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we start with former president george bush and dick cheney on the campaign trail in 2000.ty "new york times" reporter covering their campaign. >> there's adam clymer major league [ bleep ] from the "new york times." >> oh, yeah big time. >> and michael duval caught on open mike on a televised hearing talking about extracurricular activities with not one but two lobbyists. >> so i've been getting into spanking her. yeah. i like. >> the number one comes from the great communicator himself. in 1984 while running for re-election ronald reagan was preparing for his weekly radio address when he was caught saying this over an open mike. >> i'm pleased to tell you today that i've signed legislation that i've signed legislation that will outlaw russia forever, we begin bombing in five minutes. >> ronald reagan survived that moment and we're pretty sure that vice president biden will survive his gaffe after all, in a special honorable mention in this list today remember biden's boss last year talking about kanye west? >> he's a jackass. >> coming up, blalloon boy's father is out. al

issued a staple that said americans in the last election rejected radical foreign policy authored by dick cheney whole heartedly adapted by mitt romney, and this policy would alienate allies and embolden enemies. what do you think? >> i don't have a lot to say about the dnc, what kind of screen they're gonna put out. but the areas where i think the president disappointed a lot of folks, including myself was when the honduran supreme court said their anti-american pro-chavez president had violated the constitution and their military removed him from office, our president said put him back which i think surprised folks. i think that was an inappropriate action. when colombia seeks a special status with the united states on a trade basis. colombia standing up to hugo chavez, we deny him that special status. that, i think, is a mistake. when he goes before the united nations and speaks for the first type and chaft tiezs israel in front of the united nations but has nothing to say about the palestinian group hamas launching 7,000 rockets in israel, that, i think, is a mistake. of course, the decision

what dick cheney might have referred to as the last throes perhaps, bill.y have a little bit more business to go. there's a couple of votes, but they passed the rule earlier today which was a sign that democrats had the necessary 216 plus to advance their agenda in the first place. the rule was just a parameters for the debate and how they divide up the time among the republicans and democrats. once the house passes it, it can go down pennsylvania avenue to the president's desk and signed in the oval office and second is reconciliation packages of fixes and that, once it's passed the house, would go to the senate where they'll deal with it next week and if they change it there's the possibility it could come back to the house. >> bill: why bother if the president is going to sign a bill, why bother with reconciliation, a total waste of time, right? >> republicans have pretty much resigned themselves to the fact that health care reform as it's been described by the democrats in this latest incarnation of it is a done deal. >> bill: and get it down there, and

but again i would say if you look at the words that were hurled at dick cheney who i am no fan of, but believe me, he has been the subject o of-- worse and maybe that was part of the emotional. >> these were people who were practicing their profession as lawyers. they weren't cab datas for high national office. i mean when somebody does run for high national office they come to expect this. when somebody volunteers his or her timing aa fulfillment of what is the american constitutional dream to be attacked in a paid television advertising to me is -- >> well, if are you calling people evil and members of the taliban and members of al qaeda or members of the evil conspiracys, that is the corrosive factor here, regardless of who you are talking to, which public servant are you talking to. there is ways to talk and ways no the to talk. >> lehrer: i have bad news. i was about to ask you about the eric mahsa case but we're out of time. >> ticklish subject. >> lehrer: exactly. >> woodruff: finally tonight, a week that recognized some remarkable accomplishments by women. from today onward, ma

young women is that being decorative is the highest form of power, when of course that there was, dick cheneywould've gone to work every day and a sequined tutu. so what's the matter with fantasies of female power? haven't the media was provided escapist fantasies? isn't that like their job? and aren't many in the media, however belatedly, simply addressing women's demands for more representations of female achievement in control? well, yes. but there's the odd somewhat unintended consequence under the guise of escapism and pleasure. we are getting images of imagined power that mask and even a raised how much still remains to be done for girls and women. images that make sexism seem fine, even fun and that feminism is not utterly pointless, even bad for you. and if we look at what is being said about girls and women in these fantasies, while we can and should do, what we can and can't be, we will see that slithering just below the shining barrage of power is the dark, sneaky servant of sexism. there has been a bit of a generational divide and how these fantasies are presented. older women and

you ask me -- >> i'm not -- >> she is referring to dick cheney talking to pat leahy saying no camerasthe senate floor. let's take a look at another remarkable image that reminds us of the now and then. this is the white house situation room. very rarely do we get to look inside that room. hillary clinton who was the poster lady for the failure of the 1994 clinton health care plan that she helped write giving the president a big congratulations hug after -- before a situation room meeting to talk about health care. james, what does that picture say to you? >> it says to me that they're pretty happy. i see general jones the marine corps. >> he has eyes in the back of his head. he is smiling as he looks forward. >> that's a nice photo. and, you know, it's a nice photo. and there was an article about how well the president and the secretary of state are getting along. and it shows. the pictures speak for themselves. >> let me walk over there is something else in this photo. most americans will never get to go into this room. you need security clearance to get into this room. both of you h

the vice president at the time dick cheney was needed as the tie-breaking 51st vote. that bill among other things slashed spending for the entitlement known as medicaid. among those voting yes to change this entitlement, republican senator john mccain. in 1989, the senate used reconciliation to pass the omnibus budget reconciliation act of 1989. that legislation among other things overhauled the doctor payment system for the entitlement known as medicare. among those voting yes to change this entitlement? republican senator john mccain. but now senator john mccain says entitlements should not be part of a reconciliation process. it's too important, he says. senator mccain now proposing to outlaw something that he has done repeatedly. john mccain once again taking a strong stance against his own beliefs. health reform is going to happen. health reform is going to happen. it has passed the house. it has passed the senate. they are going to bridge the gap between the two bills using reconciliation. republicans can do nothing about it. they lost this one. but in the meant

dick cheney used it in anger. do you have any regrets?reporter: if the white house regretted it about health care, they weren't letting on. press secretary gibbs tweeted, yes, vp, you're right. >> reporter: within two hours of his utterance it was already blazened on t-shirts. the guy known for salty language is rahm he manual who wouldn't tell on the president -- >> i do not curse in the oval office. >> does he curse? >> reporter: the curse of biden strikes the form of an actual curse. >> this is a big [ bleep ] deal. >> reporter: jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> it was poetry to watch. he goes -- i don't want to embarrass you then ten seconds later, he did. >> you got to love him. you know. >> you do but the president is so controlled and it's hilarious to see the two of them together. he knew the second he said it the mic was still open. >> joe biden walks around with a big pin bursting the bubble. >> not intentionally, of course. >> what was going through his mind do you think? >> i don't know if much was. he was very excited. >> certai

dick cheney, karl rove and george bush, and let us find out what happened. we need to really find out what happened because we just go by what they say. we have people there ain't been charged with nothing, they ain't done nothing yet but we've got to find out what is going on. guest: joe tweets in -- host: missouri, rod on our democrats line. caller: hello? i would like to say that i don't think that the 9/11 conspiracy theorist will ever go away. if there isn't a public trial. i don't think it is possible. host: florence, south carolina, republican line. your thoughts. go ahead. caller: -- i will put you on hold. -- host: i will put you on hold. hang in for second. your feedback. north carolina. caller: a better place to close down. washington, d.c. they gave all of our great industrial jobs away, trillions of dollars in debt, invade other nations based on lies. they are trying to pass legislation that nobody wants. trying to put women in submarines. they have no concept about creating jobs. if we close down washington, d.c., we would be better off. host:

. ♪ working on the night moves snoet >>> dick cheney. do you remember dick cheney?esident with george w. bush. he was george w. bush's sidekick. and he's best remembered for going hunting and shooting guys. and he also has a history of heart problems as well, i'll be darned, over the weekend, he had his fifth heart attack. fifth heart attack. he's okay, resting comfortably. and the doctor, after they made the diagnosis, stamped his card. and the sixth one is free. >> that's dave. tina brown and i are sitting around here. we're talking about last night's jay leno deal. nine months and one big controversy later, jay is back in late night. as nbc's rafael seth shows us, he's looking comfortable and saying there's no place like home. >> it's "the tonight show with jay leno." >> reporter: from the opening title sequence -- >> tonight jay welcomes jamie foxx. >> reporter: -- to the freshened up theme song -- everything about the new "tonight show with jay leno" seemed to project the verve and energy his short-lived primetime show lacked. >> thank you very much. >> it's a

you know, i voted for george bush, and i think he and dick cheney were at an -- i don't know what theyare something else. but anyway, i think the country, i think this gentleman is right. i think the country will swerve back to the center and maybe a little right of center. that's where the country generally goes. host: larry? guest: this person sounds like an independent. he has clearly voted in both directions. independents have moved back from the democrats. they sided with the democrats in 2006 when the democrats took over the house and senate. they sided with the democrats in 2008 when president obama won 2008 when president obama won and democrats increased now for a combination of reasons, including spending, taxes, debt, and the overall bad economy, in the bins are moving back the republicans. independents voted overwhelmingly republican for governor in new jersey and virginia and for senator brown, the new republican senator from massachusetts in a special election. host: next to michigan. welcome to the program. caller: good morning. i just wanted to comment. democrats won th

out what was going on and find that what happened and go back to the past administration and get dick cheney and karl rove and george bush and let's find out what happened. we need to find out what happened and said with a said. the have not been charged with nothing. they ain't done nothing yet. host: the deal seems to keep the secret of gitmo in gitmo. by secrets, i mean atrocities. democrats line. caller: hello? i would like to say that i do not think the 9/11 conspiracy theorists will ever go away. if present a public trial. i do not think it is possible. any more comments along that line, i would appreciate it. host: republican line. your thoughts. go ahead. towson. i will put you on hold. hang in there. we will come back to. long island, new york, independent line. caller: it would be better to close down washington, d.c. they spent trillions of dollars in debt. they're trying to passed legislation that nobody wants. they are trying to put women in submarines. they have no concept on how to create jobs. i say closed down washington, d.c., and we will be better off. host: back to floren

but hey the previous vp, dick cheney used it in anger telling senator patrick leahy to you know whatot letting on. press secretary gibbs and said, yes, mr. vp you're right. his faux pas a big deal that within two hours of his utter utterance it was blazing on t t-shirts. >>> i do not curse in the oval office. >> does he curse. >> reporter: on a day of triumph the curse of biden strikes the form of an actual curse. jeanne mose, cnn, new york. >>> thank you, joe. >>> i'm embarrassed for him. >> looking back over the past comments, i think the one about the guy in the wheelchair -- >> although calling the other guy's mother dead, rest her soul. >> it's up there. >> coming up, it may be junk to you but not to someone else. how you can cash in on your old stuff? >>>our love expert is still in our newsroom answering your questions. if you have a question for her about relationships, just put it on our facebook page and she will have an answer for you. 8:28 is the time. you are watching fox 45 morning news, all local all morning. >>> welcome back to fox 45 morning news. the 8:30 is the time

we would never have seen that had happened if it was george bush for dick cheney. host: a number of callers has commented on the interview that took place in the blue room yesterday, airing on "special report." here is part of the interview. >> there are a lot of these questions of talking out process. a lot of people around america have a problem with this process. you call the end of the process. >> i have got to say to you, many more people are concerned about the fact that they might be losing their house are going bankrupt because of health care. >> we do not know exactly what is in the phipps bill. >> by the time it has taken place, i will know, you know, everyone will be able to evaluate in on the merits. here is the thing, the reason i think this conversation ends up being in a frustrating is because the focus, entirely, is on washington process. yet i have said it is an ugly process. it was ugly when republicans were in charge and when democrats were in charge. host: does the process matter? that is a portion of the interview yesterday with the president o

was on saturday night live, they said martha coakley was such a bad candidate she would lose to dick cheneyberkeley. but at the same time, i think the reaction by the white house spoke volumes. they went almost populous against the banks. if you recall that week, january 19, brown won and within days you had harsh anti-bank rhetoric. even the democrats let alone the republicans are hearing the message. i agree with charlie, if you look a little -- if the party looks a little less threatening, moves a little bit more to the center, it's going to have a big, big influence. >> let me clarify. i've got a column coming out tomorrow. to me when i think the tea party movement i think is overrated, i think they're kind of a tip of an iceberg. i think they are representative of a much broader group of people who aren't going to meetings and who aren't screaming in the television radio talk shows, but who are disaffected and who are expressing their concern. these are folks that you will never be able to explain t.a.r.p. to them, never be able to explain the necessity in my mind for the takeovers and

with diabetes, with heart disease, we're just -- we've just seen recently former vice president dick cheney and former president clinton get state of the art health care and the question is, how can we get this health care to the majority of our people and not bankrupt the country? because it's not the quality of care we're talking about, whether it's heart disease or cancer or any other diseases that we're talking about. in the mid 1980's we started seeing a shift in the way we discussed and delivered health care and what fee for service health care, you as a patient come to me and i see you and you give me a bill when you leave and you pay the bill. that's fee for service health care. and we saw that that was clearly a situation where there was overconsumption of the services. we didn't have enough money in the system to provide that. so a new system of managed care came along where insurance companies said, look, we can manage this care, and we can do this by limiting the number of visits and very specifically saying what we're going to pay for in this particular health care contract tha

was on saturday night live, they said martha coakley was such a bad candidate she would lose to dick cheneyberkeley. but at the same time, i think the reaction by the white house spoke volumes. they went almost populous against the banks. if you recall that week, january 19, brown won and within days you had harsh anti-bank rhetoric. even the democrats let alone the republicans are hearing the message. i agree with charlie, if you look a little -- if the party looks a little less threatening, moves a little bit more to the center, it's going to have a big, big influence. >> let me clarify. i've got a column coming out tomorrow. to me when i think the tea party movement i think is overrated, i think they're kind of a tip of an iceberg. i think they are representative of a much broader group of people who aren't going to meetings and who aren't screaming in the television radio talk shows, but who are disaffected and who are expressing their concern. these are folks that you will never be able to explain t.a.r.p. to them, never be able to explain the necessity in my mind for the takeovers and

we include -- let us forget about the deficit as dick cheney said and just spend, spend, spend.f government are you complaining about? it seems to me you complain about -- is it the federal government that you complain about being big or something like state governments when they get big -- for state and local governments, it seems like there is no complaint about that? guest: i am barely in control of my own daily schedule. look, all the things that you mention have contributed to declining trust in government. the point i was making is that this started well before the 1980's and 1970's. you can see trust in government declining starting in the mid and late 1960's. long before ronald reagan was even imaginable as a presidential candidate or a president. trust in government plunged to roughly where it is now the day roughly where it is now the day ronald reagan guest: the problem we have, in the past 30 years, the government has been functioning in a context of public opinion that has been deeply mistrustful. granted, when politicians run against washington as politicians of bo

dick, who impuned the patriotism of the justice department lawyers. the sins of the daughter ought not necessarily be visited upon by the father. but in this case does anyone think that liz cheneycted without her father's blessing? guest: it's very clear they're coming from the same place. to put it mildly, extremely unfortunate, really. most people are willing to say just reprehensible that she would have made those kind of accusations in that kind of atmosphere. i'm not entirely sure what liz cheney is doing on television so often. even if her father was still the vice president it wouldn't make sense. the fact that she is on television so frequently and to go back to an early story so frequently with fox where she's continuously welcomed despite the fact that she will say things like this is really outrageous. i mean, there's just no explaination for having the daughter of someone who is out of office on constantly. it makes no sense. i would love to hear an explanation for that. host: hammond, indiana, democrat's line. good morning. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. i was just listening to the conversation with liz cheney and i don't see what credibility s

and invited me over he didn't say she was going to dick cheney there.oes to show a couple things about roche. one thing he views this as a governing decision on a political decision. becoming the next interviewer right on most or all that stuff, but that's politics. my job is to worry if something happened to me who would the country have confidence in? second abolish of his style which is he likes to have people around him who have strong opinions or in many not agree with this and are willing to lay him out in a respectful, straightforward way in front of others who might have a different opinion. and it was quite an experience. >> host: did your opinion of dick cheney change over the eight years? >> guest: well, my opinion of him when i left the room i said great as irritated the guy who will be the next vice president. and then we became friends. he never help it against me. he said that was my job. my job was to go to those questions and not take it personal. >> host: with a roving campaign? >> guest: is not what is normally depict it. the ugly thi