in washington, d.c., there was a sort of conspiracy to push out this certain narrative dick cheney had written in the margins of joe's op ed, who's his wife? >> question mark, what cheney had actually written, quote, have they done this sort of thing before? >> send an ambassador to answer a question. do we ordinarily send people out pro bono to work for us, or did his wife send him on a junket? bush white house supporters note that patrick fitzgerald never charged anyone but libby never proved a conspiracy and never proved that anyone knew plame was covert. but in his closing arguments at libby's sentencing, fitzgerald stated, quote, there is a cloud over what the vice president did that week. we didn't put that cloud there. that cloud remains because the defendant has obstructed justice and lied about what happened andy anderson, take a seat. >> look at this. you're wet, disheveled. there's debris hitting you. >> why do you have that on your phone? >> i watch it all the time. hey, listen, we need to be ready for new year's eve. there could be an ice storm or a hurricane and obviously

she represented in the republican party daughter of a former vice president, a real war hawk of dick cheney. so liz cheney had some troubles in the republican party, but tell her audience more. so let's training. the daughter of dick cheney the former vice president under george w bush, was a down the line conservative on every issue, including the importance of adhering to law and order and the constitution. and that was the one factor that turned her against donald trump and ultimately cost her her leadership position with the republican conference and then her position in congress altogether. and for this, she was actually a hero to many, never trump republicans, but also to a lot of college educated democrats who liked seeing this example of a principal conservative. but the point is, but she didn't have a constituency. beyond a fairly small number of college educated voters who already were drifting into the democratic column. so to some extent, she turned off the democrats progressive faction, who remember the iraq war and dick cheney's failures there. but she also didn't really bring

policies may have been overshadowed by the decision to elevate republicans like liz cheney and dick cheneymocratic operatives and insiders tell "rolling stone" they tried to convince the harris campaign and her allies that palling around with the cheneys was a bad idea with little upside and could harm harris's support among disaffected democratic voters. people don't want to be in a coalition with the devil, says the source, speaking about dick cheney. yeah, i'm sure even the devil's like, "well i don't know that guy. you think --" [ light laughter ] "you think i know everyone who prays to me? get real." and seriously, you're telling me people weren't swayed by the endorsement of dick cheney? he's such a lovable gooflball. we all -- we all remember when he shot that guy in the face on a hunting trip for his hit prank show "dick'd." [ light laughter ] so, agree or disagree, there's a lot to grapple with here. but rather than wrestle with difficult questions over the identity of the future of the democratic party, some pundits would rather just find a scapegoat and say, "you know what? it w

come to the defense of skraib and secretary of defense dick cheney had gone to saudi arabia to meet with the royal family and he was on his way back and everybody wanted to know what happened. well, i found out what happened. and i found out that they were going to send troops, and in fact, by the time i found out. they were already sending troops. they were en route. and the last person that confirmed that for me said to me, but please don't report it until they get there. we had this great military consultant. military consultants today, it's become a cottage industry. but this i didn't know we had a military consultant until that day. his name was george chris. he was just buried at arlington this monday. and he was the former centcom commander. so, you know, i told my bosses that, yeah, we had this story, i got it confirmed, but they're asking us not to go with it. we asked george chris. is it safe to go with this? and what we were saying was the 82nd airborne and a squadron of f-15s, of course. that was just, you know, the beginning of a very big military buildup. and george chris s

maybe the wizard is actually dick cheney. >> just give it a rest.sident. >> look at our lives that we lead here. we have busy lives. how do these people have so much free time. they spew what they think the rest of us would like to have. it is too much. >> i remember the waldo moment, everybody said that was trump. the one character you didn't mention is the wicked witch from the west who is a good person. by the way, in the movie, the pail of water doesn't kill her. she goes on to turn wicked. that is the most interesting character in the movie. he has been attacked and marginalized. >> i hadn't thought about this. i didn't know there was anything related to politics. the book is an antifascist treatise. the wizard is the fastest and in 2003, when it debuted in broadway, there were punches against bush. it is always the republican. he is this fascist in this phenomenon. it is nothing new here. >> i would love for them to do mow on a now. >> especially the first one. >> i have never seen wicked but i have read all of his books in the book it is base

they tried to take the most unpopular vice president, more unpopular than dick cheney, which is somethinghe guy literally shot someone in the face and tried to create an icon theme. remember the summer of joy. she went six weeks without taking a question from a reporter and tried to make this person into someone who made the presidency, with donald trump winning the popular vote in every swing state. >> not so much. she changed the profile from x to brat. >> the media did go crazy over the president-elect. the former president and future president when he did his shout out at mickey ds, president donald trump over there dolling out fries. it was a fascinating story line, listen to this and i'll get your reaction on the other side. >> what is the logic behind this going to mcdonald's. he lives big macs and filet fish. >> it is a stunt. he's not put forward an economic agenda. appears to be not well, as you know. he's engaged in bizarre types of activities during this campaign. >> you know they hate because what's the old saying, they hate us, they are not us, it's a brilliant idea. worked

and 6, dick cheney sat down with some officials and the saudi government, an emerald government. and they put a plan to him, which says, look, serious is the weakest point when it's take serious else. and we can then breaks the crypt the run has on the region. and he said, well, the only way we can do that is with these people and the people who is referred to with the service treatments and this out his name and ross who's such a minute making, don't worry about stuff. you don't need to have anything to do that, you'll have what be solid, or we need from use the cash. we'll handle that as people. so since 2006, you know, the go states have basically been running all of these terrorism groups and pay them with supermarket bags of cash every day. but now it turns out that actually america has been paid to risk. you know, i don't think uh, this is really now what i'm coming to tapes isn't just a reflection of those. how do they reinvent the news? how do we re package this? because even the most humble mind, even the blue color worker from ohio is gonna look at this and say, hey, we

. >> they are war mongers they life the republican neocon, the dick cheney and liz cheneys and john boltonsy are quasi democrats. >> consistent with founder. larry: i will say, john bolton, old long-time friend, i am disappointed, miranda devine thank you, and c caroline downey thank you. >> switching gears climate change with steve koonin. writing an interesting, steve koonin i have not seen you in a long time, right way for trump to ditch paris aagreement. can go i back, 12 trillion dollar is how much we spent last decade or two, i can't remember it was your number or number. >> from the same source. larry: greenhouse gas emissions continue to rise. >> of course, the rest of the world needs energy, and they are burning cold to -- coal to get it. larry: why do we continue this, i love you said, based on some fear of a vague climate co catastrophe u.s. wants to spend more money and continue into it, that is what it is, you have proven that. it a sort of vague climate catastrophe that never seems to happen. >> i keep asking the people who are catastrophists what do you thinking happen, you c

and president bush moved onto his second choice, richard chaney, as in dick cheney. he was confirmed by a vote of 92-0. that history of john tower's nomination is especially relevant tonight in light of new reporting about the man donald trump has chosen to be his pick for secretary of defense. pete hegseth. before this week, we knew that hegseth had been accused of drunkenly sexually assaulting a woman in 2017. allegations he denied but as paul wirac said in 1989, where there's smoke, there's fire. the new yorker published bomb shell reporting against hegseth stating during his time as the head of a conservative veteran's group, he was repeatedly intoxicated while acting in his official capacity. so much so he needed to be carried out of the organization's events. it includes allegations he once took his staff to a strip club where he was so drunk he tried to get on the stage and dance with the strippers. his own staff reportedly had to intervene to keep hegseth from getting thrown out. of a strip club. it includes allegations he treated the organization funds like

musk, ramaswamy, dick cheney. these sorts of conflicts of interest lie more with republican administrations when you think about it. maybe i am selective on that. >> he owns companies that sell, basically ar-15. >> yes. elon musk, star link, space x, subsidies for electric vehicles, his relationship with china, they make half of their cars in shanghai. think of the relationships. i am less concerned with someone like this. when you think about a lot of the economic appointments, folks feel descent about them. if you have a kash patel running economics we would be deeply worried. when you look at treasure, what he might do as it relates to the fed in the next couple of years. some of the choices i think we can look back to cohe in, and it worked out okay. that is what we just talked about inflation and the like here. these are adults in the room. >> scott bessent a strong pick. let's talk about the politics. steve feinberg will be number two, the number one guy pete hegseth. can the administration stomach multiple

dollars to make it look like there was a ground swell among the most unpopular vice president since dick cheneye're at it we'll try to jail our opponent and take him off state ballots, call him a fascist and when he holds a rally in madison square garden we'll say it's to the nazis. this is all the exact opposite of saving democracy. so that was one of the more common sense perspective i've seen in the "new york times" place. bill clinton, work with the other side, say the era of big government is over and welfare space is done. work to the center and maybe you'll win an election again. >> julie: a lot of democrats have been coming to their senses. you heard about the senator from pennsylvania, joe fetterman -- john fetterman who said that it is just common sense. for people to get on board with the president. going against the president is basically going against your country and you should be for your country, not against it. it is time for people to become unified. maybe a new year's resolution for many. quotes from democratic strategists trashing their party. the democratic brand is in the

people who were anti-war voters in some cases voted for trump because the other side had liz and dick cheney on it. there's a weird horse shoe thing happening. thank you both very much. >>> coming up, there are reports joe biden is considering preemptively pardons some of trump's potential targets. is that a good move? s potential. is that a good move? when we started feeding bogie the farmer's dog, he lost so much weight. pre-portioned packs makes it really easy to keep him lean and healthy. in the morning, he flies up the stairs and hops up on my bed. in the past, he would not have been able to do any of those things. after last month's massive solar flare added a 25th hour to the day, businesses are wondering "what should we do with it?" i'm thinking company wide power nap. [ employees snoring ] anything can change the world of work. from hr to payroll, adp designs for the next anything. for more than a decade farxiga has been trusted again and again, and again. ♪far-xi-ga♪ ♪far-xi-ga♪ ask your doctor about farxiga. do your dry eyes still feel gritty, rough, or tired? with miebo, eyes can

international advisory ceo and former national security advisor for dick cheney, steve yates.e you. thank you for being here. you're a great student of china and have been studying these issues for a long time. do you believe these drones are from china? >> well, china undisputeddedlyds the largest manufacturing platform for the world's most advanced commercially available drones, presumably those applicable for military and other purposes as well. that as don rumsfeld would say it's a known known. it's worse than both of the sound bites. mayorkas' comments were not reassuring at all, if it's the u.s. government trying to make us safe, you wouldn't need an investigation that involves the fbi. and in terms of how these things are deployed, we've had the most permissive environment in the last four years for people and technology and precursors that are devastating to our homeland under mayorkas' tenure, everything from fentanyl to other kinds of things t that cod be distributed by the drones, not just surveillance. i think this is a huge wake-up call for homeland security prior

these include leslie aspen, leon panetta of california and dick cheney of wyoming. though those views differed widely, they were respected as stable, broadly competent and knowledgeable in defense and international affairs. in contrast to these individuals, casper weinberger served as a cautionary tale of the importance of maintaining a strong moral compass in one of our nation's most critical positions. he served as secretary of defense during the reagan administration and he worked with lieutenant colonel oliver north to make a secret agreement to send antitank missiles to iran in hopes of securing the release of hostages. despite raising concerns, his actions were nonetheless critical to enabling the sales to occur. this did he back will, the iran contraaffair would be government incompetence and dishonesty. . . . . the secretary of defense is a position of great power. with great power comes great responsibility. the american people have a right to expect their secretary of defense will have the experience, aptitude, and integrity of character to take the helm o

it was so interesting to see democrats embracing liz cheney and dick cheney ceding the ground on this idea of peace, of wanting to stay out of wars. and trump took that and ran with it. >> i think one of the things that has to happen with democrats is they have to discover what their principles are, decide what you stand for and stand on it, and stop going every which way that the wind blows. >> that's what rahm emanuel is talking about. oh, there's anger. we need to seize on the anger. we need to stop talking in in these high minded ways. no, you need to figure out what your principles are, stand on that and run on that. otherwise, people will see it for what it is. it's phony. and so i think that the message would be interesting if it came from somebody other than rahm emanuel, who's saying you need to get away from a life of, you know, lifetime politicians when he's a lifetime politician, he's been working in politics since the clinton administration, and now he's telling democrats that they need to do something different. sounds disingenuous to me. >> well, he did. he did work for

national security community to nominate him for a job that bob gates and leon panetta and so many dick cheney and whatever you think of each of these individuals bill coen, a serious people have had, of all some cabinet jobs, you give them to some political person, it's not a big deal but defense, it's kind of an important job speaking of serious people, former new york city mayor michael bloomberg warned against confirming robert f. >> kennedy jr. as health secretary. here's what he said at a health conference in dc. take a listen putting rfk jr. in charge of that would be beyond dangerous. >> it would be medical malpractice on a mass scale why would president-elect trump expend so much political capital on this guy who is really of the left robert f. >> kennedy jr. well, i may take initial exception with the political capital. >> i don't know that he's spending a lot of political capital on on these nominees when some political capital needed to be spent on gates, gates withdrew. i think he you know, this election was a disruption election from the perspective of president-elect trump. he i

made with ritz crackers when her husband called from the airport to announce that bill buckley or dick cheneya few minutes. into his 90s, he'd be working the phones, weighing in with republicans and journalists across the country. with brown bags of bourbon and wine, reed hosted a flow of visitors. he could hold forth, at some length, on subjects ranging from the agrarian thought of andrew lytle and robert penn warren to the virtues of the large plastic clips that sealed opened but unfinished bags of potato chips to the details of the alger hiss perjury trial. presidents, senators, congressmen, and governors depended on this political pioneer for counsel and leadership, karl rove said. he had a broad smile, a twinkle in his eye, and a talent for friendship. he made politics not only consequential but interesting and fun. the light that brightened many a political backroom and convention hall is gone." >> jon, you've expressed many of, in the past, said many of the things he had said, some of which we will not repeat here. but a dog is a serious thing. sticks out in this beautiful, beautiful o

dick cheney is appointed and history is compared. compare tower to hegseth.sat thing the trump team is saying, what else is out there? things keep rolling out every day. >> yeah. there's another huge difference. tower was incredibly qualified. he had been an extremely powerful effective chairman of the senate arms committee. so, here you have an incredibly high-pressure job with two wars going on involving american allies, so you add somebody who's not qualified by background and experience. he's a patriot, he served his country, but that doesn't mean you automatically get defense department. we have millions of people who serve the country. add all that pressure to a drinking problem. i hope he gets help for. i mean, my solution is get him the russian ministry of defense because ukrainians would be in moscow in eight weeks. that building is going to eat him alive. i've worked there as a consultant 20 years ago. it's very political. the uniform military, you know, they know how to do their jobs. the worst thing is a civilian dod sec over his head. they will g

it then became dick cheney.the biggest problem facing the american military is wokeness is preposterous. it's not in the top 10, 50 or 100. we have real issues. it goes beyond the fact that there may be bloat in the budget. we have an inadequate budgets. we're facing challenges in three geographies. you have china, russia, north korea, iran aligning. there's bloat in the pentagon budget. we're spending too much on the wrong systems, but this is a very powerful case that this needs to be a time of great innovation and expansion of what we spend on defense given what's going on in the world and in the world of technology. >> you know, katty kay, yesterday when lindsey graham came out and talked about the problems he was having, obviously there's the fact that he's just not qualified to run a bureaucracy that large. there also of course were the drinking problems, the character problems, his mother talking about his abuse of women, the allegations the. but this is what struck me about lindsey graham's statement. it

. >> the warmongerrers and they love the republican neocon and dick cheyneys and liz cheneys and johnort of ka quasi democrats. larry: good for you. you got the last word on that. that's a beauty. john bolton is a long time friend of mine and kind of disappointed l. thank you, both, very much. going to steve koonin and hoover seen yore fellow and author of unsettled and writing very interesting. haven't seen you in a long time and right way for trump to ditch the pairs are agreement. there's right ways and i hope he does it soon. 12 trillion, that's how much we spent the last decade or two. was that your number or born boe lomborg's number. >> of course, the rest of the world needs energy and they're burning coal in order to get it. larry: why do we want to continue this? then you say, i love this in your opportunistic ed in "the wa"thewall street journal," thea temp sheet on it. based on some fear of vague climate catastrophe, the u.s. wants to spend autothis more money. that's what it is, you've proven that. it's a vague climate catastrophe that never seemed to happen. >> i keep ask