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past and for this among other people i fault president obama essentially he gave everybody dick cheney donald rumsfeld he gave them all a free pass. to it's w. bush they're all going to be rehabilitated they're all going to be treated as great statesmen one day i mean they gave president obama a nobel prize for not being george w. bush. the question of course the world cup dancing around. you know are avoiding is doesn't work as torture work doesn't work people that have information that are part of an underground up or run a terrorist organization a revolution urbanisation accomplished organization whatever organized form of selective elements of ip they won't. know. the people that you pick up that are innocence yes you'll. tear them to pieces you store them you'll ruin them. i think that a few of the people that passed passed through my hands and interrogated did have intelligence but the most of the vast majority of the people that i dealt with were just being picked up because they were males of military age and they were just get swept up and in these raids i don't think torture is always being

and people like dick cheney and donald rumsfeld who are relatively new to government at the time did not like when congress said we need to step in and confront the national security state and what's become a very out of control kill program cheney then went on during the reagan years in the eighty's to serve in congress and when the iran contra scandal broke out into the open cheney did not like congress being involved with anything that the executive branch was doing. and you had this in utter scandal that emanated from the highest echelons of power and the reagan administration was acting as though it had nothing to do with it i've told you all that i know and you know the truth of the matter is for quite some long time all that you knew was what i told you. that you had to let me. be. our witnesses morning is mr robert mcfarlane the former national security adviser to the president. mr mcfarlane will you welcome you to the committee and we look forward to your testimony. mr mcfarlane. did you have any discussion about the possibility. of in effect farming out the whole contra sup