thank you for being with us this morning. >> thank you, bob. >> schieffer: now we want to talk to dick durbin, the senator from illinois who is the number two democrat in the democratic leadership in the senate. senator durbin, what will be the first thing that you will do if, let's say that's correct the house does pass this? >> of course we've been working on this for quite a long time. last week harry reid our leader and senator schumer and senator murray and i have met with every democratic senator face to face so that we understand the importance of this vote. i listened to senator mcconnell talk about the procedure and the process and the politics. but i think our members impressed by the substance of our challenge here. if we do nothing, as the rech cans suggest, we're going to see health care costs reach a point where small businesses can't afford and families can't afford it. we're going to see people turned down from pre-existing conditions. we're going to find the medicare donut hole, a gap in coverage that is going to hurt a lot of seniors. so when you get to the substance beyond

and senate majority whip dick durbin.ocrats turn reconciliation -- turn to it to pass health care. and could that backfire. first a quick check at the forecast. >> i want to get you set for the day as far as chances for travel issues, in a few areas of the east coast. nothing too major. light snow early this morning, switching to light rain. 37 degrees right now. really windy right now. and some of the snow on the radar, pushing out to the eastern reaches of cape cod. dealing with rain and low cloud ceilings. and enough to slow down flights. temperatures up and down the east coast with cold numbers. charlotte, north carolina, starting off in the upper 20s. and there is a look at this afternoon. a chance of showers around boston. nearly 40 this afternoon and chicago, 34, a few light rainshowers, heading toward dallas, near houston, you will see a chance of rainshowers, new orleans, later on this afternoon. beautiful in the southeast for now. coming up, we'll have more. for now, are you watching "morning joe," brewed by sta

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here is something that dick durbin had to say. >> we ask facebook, they replied by saying they have no business operations in china or the rest of the world. they are young start of, influence is limited. we do not have the resources to devote to membership. here are the facts. facebook has more than foreign to many users, the second- biggest website in the world. facebook has over 1000 employees, hundreds of millions of dollars in annual revenues, and is worth billions. it is hardly a mom and pop organization and they acknowledge that they deal in censorship. "when context from a certain jurisdiction violates to local laws, facebook may take it at that content. >> that is a lot to respond to by senator durbin. we have no data stored in china. we have no servers. we have the staff. we do not sell. the staff of senator durbin made it clear that this would be the dominant point of conversation. on the second point, senator byrd and talks about avoiding the global network initiative. an idea, for those who are not familiar, human rights organizations and companies, only a few have joined

questions, recently there was a senate committee hearing on internet security, and this is what senator dick durbin had to say. >> we asked facebook to come, and they replied by saying we have no business operations in china or, for ma matter, in -- that matter, in most countries in the world. they went on to say, as a young start-up we do not have the resources to devote to g and i membership. but here are the facts, facebook has over 400 million users which makes it the second most-viewed web site in the world. about 70% of facebook users are outside the united states. facebook has over 1,000 employees, hundreds of millions of dollars in annual revenues and is worth billions of dollars. that is hardly a mom and pop operation that can't afford to be part of g and i, and facebook acknowledges it engages in censorship. in their letter to me facebook said, and i quote, when content shared from a particular jurisdiction violates that jurisdiction's local laws or custom, facebook may take down that content. >> guest: so there's a lot to respond to by senator durbin, and i appreciate your giving us the

rahm emanuel, dick durbin and a lot of senators and people i talked to about this, in exchange for thatraise taxes on people. i also thought i might get a law that would cover preexisting medical conditions because he was blocking that and a law to keep people getting kicked out of their homes too and make sure -- >> so -- >> so what happened was on the morning before i was arrested i directed my chief of staff to do it. and those people heard that and funny next morning at 6:00 am i was arrested. the true story behind this and someone is lying where they stop at a crime spree or a senate seat was being sold for money or was a super political deal that would do a lot of good for a lot of people stop before it happened by accusers who were lying. the tapes, the tapes tell what the truth is. i say you should hear all the tapes. my accusers went to court and are blocking those tapes from being heard and where are you in the media with all due respect to push and prod and get those tapes heard? when richard nixon in watergate -- and i'm the anti-nixon. i met nixon. he's a historical figure

dick durbin said, well, this is an emergency. okay, fine. but guess what?pelosi got in as speaker of the house, she said they were going to have paygo, and the deficits have just exploded since then. and it's always an emergency. it's -- >> it's not always an emergency. this really is an emergency. >> what i'm saying, though, congress always says, well, this is exempt from paygo because this is an emergency. at some point we're just going to have to figure out where the money comes from. >> well, it's a fair argument. >> that's okay. >> you're mad. >> well, i am. >> what did she call you? an awkward moment here. it's usually you. >> what? >> ambien and not able to remember my name. >> if you only knew. "new york times," why i'm not running for senate. harold ford jr. i've examined this race in every possible way, and i keep returning to the same fundamental conclusion. if i run, the likely result would be brutal and highly negative democratic primary, a primary where the winner emerges weakened and the republican strengthened. i refuse to do anything that w

harry reid, dick durbin, our leadership were able to unite our caucus on that bill and you're going ton as we go forward. we are going to be hit with difficult amendments. the most important thing is to get health care done for the people of this country. i was looking at our letters in the office to get me going. the one that sticks out is a woman who wrote named sherry. she was writing for her daughter, mickey. mickey just called me, sobbing so hard i couldn't hear what she said. her husband's company just cut them off their health insurance, it is a small business. they couldn't afford it. here's the deal. she said, my daughter, mickey, has cystic fibrosis and won't be able to get insurance anymore. she has been fighting her whole life and we need someone to fight for her. we need to get this done. and so all of us that go to the floor this week that have to vote on these just horrific amendments that are just meant to hurt us politically are meant to delay things are going to have one thing for our guiding light, the people of this country that need health care but people who have

majority whip dick durbin, the latest to go on record, along with senators patty murray and jeff binganham bring the total number of democrats or independents who have signed th letter to majority leader reid or support the idea in principle to 30. lots to talk about tonight with congresswoman debbie wassermann schultz, democrat of florida. congresswoman, minority leader boehner's office has put out a statement tonight in which he calls reconciliation, quote, a procedural trick that democrats are trying to jam through the congress. we have yet to hear directly from the president on reconciliation. what are you hoping to hear from the president on wednesday on the way forward? >> well, it's interesting leader boehner would say that. that must make him a magician because he was fully immersed and involved in all of the reconciliation efforts of the republican leadership over the last number of years, including the bush tax cuts, which are, you know, even larger than -- in terms of costs than health care reform proposal. the bottom line here is that we just need to pass health care reform wit

megyn: dick durbin, he was on talking about this and he says forget tax hikes, it's going to be just the opposite. take a listen to what he said. >> joe, you know, i keep hearing you every morning talking about the biggest tax increase in history but you don't mention it's also the biggest tax cut in history. we have almost $500 billion in tax cuts, and the tax cuts go to small businesses to help pay for health insurance premiums. they're going to go to individuals who can't afford their health insurance premiums. it really is going to make certain everybody has a chance for affordable health insurance. we welcome this debate. megyn: is that true? >> well, i don't think it's true at all. yes, there are subsidies in there for people to buy health insurance, yes, there are. but when you look at the tax increases that are being put on the back of small business people all over the country, i don't think you could ever find a way to call this a tax cut. megyn: what could happen now? because there was talk yesterday about the possibility that the democrats would have to implement a nation

reid and dick durbin. of his job to make sure that his numbers vote the way the leadership would tend to go. on the republican side, i would take a look at judd gregg, mr. ranking republican on the committee and the republican point mann on reconciliation and try to poke holes in the legislation. watch mr. connell and his own right republican leader. and jon kyl who is the republican and authority signed a letter, all 41 of them that they will all support budget point of order and won't rake off. and it takes of course any budget point of order at the if the republicans raise would take 60 democratic votes or 60-vote period to overcome once the republicans are in uniform. >> to have a sense of which democrats may peel off or that sort of written in stone at this point? >> guest: i don't think anything is written in point country stone. senator michael bennet two was appointed to the senate to replace can salazar is standing for election for the first time in colorado. and he is a big component of the publi

. >>> dick durbin of illinois is the senate majority whip and republican senator jim demint of south carolina introduced legislation tuesday to fully repeal the health care law. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> senator demint, if i could start with you, back in july you said, "if we're able to stop obama on this," meaning this health care reform bill, "it would be his waterloo, it will break him." well, the bill is now law and a former speech writer for former president george w. bush says republicans messed up big by adopting the "hell, no" approach to this bill. do you still feel it is the president's waterloo or is it now your party's waterloo? >> well, i think we're going to find out in november. americans are very angry because this comes on the heels of the government taking over general motors and chrysler and our largest insurance company, our largest mortgage company. there is a lot of anger out there and i think this november election is going to be thdo we really want the government running all areas of our lives? >> you talk about the anger but according t

host: we have a story here about their below the radar race to become the next majority leader, dick durbine based on employment is turning the job market. other countries with universal health care, the government picks it up and the people make the product of industry. we are competing like it is a car, although manufacturers by putting more on automobiles because of health care. how can we defeat -- this is a jobs issue as well. people talking about socialism, we are in a fascist country, corporations are running the country. the people in government, which is what government is, the people, we need a social system for single payer system that can compete with the rest of the world in health care. thank you. host: will englund, did you cover the event at blair house? guest: yes, i did. host: we have not seen an event like every president in recent memory. guest: it was promoted as a bipartisan summit, and one of the issues that was clear was that one party did not share the urgency of the other party, i did find it interesting. many people said it was just talking points and people diggi

guest: i think on the democrat side, kent conrad, but the chairman, harry reid and dick durbin, majorityind of his job to make sure that his members vote the way the leadership would like them to vote. on the republican side, i take a look at judd gregg, the ranking republican on the budget committee. the republican point man for reconciliation, and tried to poke holes. watch mitch mcconnell, a decent strategist in his own right and republican leader. and jon kyl, the republican whip. the republicans, they already signed a letter, all 41, that they would also bar budget point of order -- and any budget point of order would take 60 votes to over,. democrats only have 59 votes as long as republicans remained unified. host: and democrats that they peel off or is it written stone? guest: i don't think anything is written in stone. but i can't say that senator michael bennett, appointed to replace ken salazar, interior secretary, is standing for election for the first time in colorado. he is a big proponent of the public insurance option. and at least last week when i talked to him was not ru

people in congress may not like my language -- let me use the language of the senator from illinois, dick durbin. "this is the best congress that money can buy." the cheap money folks are very upset with the current administration and the irony is that 95% of americans got a tax reduction. what they're not getting is a healthy economy, health care, quality education, roads and bridges that are safe and sound , they're not getting a financial services sector that is treating them fairly. we should be lacking people who are the best and brightest, trying to make sure that we pass rules and regulations that can continue the free-market, making sure that the regulations do not have a disparate impact, requiring too much time and energy. regulations that make sure that sales are being done fairly, democratically, equitably. we need laws that address creating more sustainable energy. laws that make sure that people are now finding out once they get really sick how bad did with the is. our food supply system, let me just say, we have difficulties in this country with the health of our nation. when cong

are here today to tell president obama, nancy pelosi, harry reid, chuck schumer and our senator, dick durbin that they need to have more courage, that they need to be like our congressman luis gutierrez because you have only 13 days left to keep your promise to the latino community. remember if it wasn't for them he would not have one that are now the new blue states that were historically red states. and if you don't do what we ask you to do, what you promise to do, we will leave you where we found you before we voted you into office. because, friends key promises. [speaking in spanish] you don't act like our friends. you have not only broken your promises to move immigration reform, you have made the situation worse. deporting more people, separating more families, breaking more of our children's hearts than did the republicans in their final aggressive year. you have the power. you must use it or you will lose it. we will not live peacefully in a nation that is at war with our community and with our families. don't mistake our faith for weakness. remember what jesus said. i did not come t

here today to tell president obama nancy pelosi and harry reid and chuck schumer and our senator dick durbinat they need to have more courage and the need to be like our congressmen because you have only 13-- left to keep your promise to the latino community remember if it was not for them you would not have one of those blue states that were historic the reds states. if you do not do what we promise to do we will leave you where we found do before we go to do into office because amigos keep promises. you did not act like our friends. you have not only broke dinner promises to move the immigration reform and you have made this situation worse. deporting more people, separating were families come a break came more of her children's hearts than did the republicans in their final aggressive year. you have the power. you must use it or you will lose it. we will not live peacefully in a nation that is at war with our community and family is. don't mistake our faith weakness. remember would jesus said provide too not come to bring peace but a sword. what god has put together no man, no government

. >> said democratic whip dick durbin speaking earlier says republicans are engaging in a "politicalexercise by slowing the reconciliation process." adding, the gop should except when came through yesterday. republicans at the same time say that there are not backing down. the senate resumed debate at 9:00 a.m. live coverage on c-span2. the national urban league is weighing on health care. they say blacks have made gains in overall quality but still lag behind in employment and health care. in annual state of black america report asked that a $150 billion be pumped into local job creation in hurting communities. in california, restrictions have been relaxed for nonviolent criminals, like burglars, drug offenders, and front stairs. no more random drug test, trouble requirement to check in with an officer. the law aims to shrink the prison population. more on that later in the program. >> google closed its search engine in china this week over concerns of government censorship. today, a commission in congress will examine internet regulation in china. live on c-span 3 at 2:00 eastern.

questions recently there was a senate committee hearing on internet security and this is what senator dick durbin had to say. >> we have asked facebook to come and they replied by saying, we have no business operations in china or for that matter most of the companies in the world. it is a young startup, resources and influence are limited. we do not have the resources to devote to membership. a but here are the facts. facebook has over 400 million users which makes it the second most viewed web site in the world. about 70% of facebook users are outside the united states. facebook has over 1000 employees, hundreds of billions of dollars in annual revenues and is worth billions of dollars that is hardly a mom-and-pop operation that can afford to be part of gni. if facebook acknowledges it engages in censorship. and a letter to facebook and that quote when content chair from a particular jurisdiction violates the local laws or customs, facebook may take down that content. >> guest: there is a lot to respond to by senator durbin and i pray she you giving us the opportunity to do so. a couple of impo

people in congress may not like my language -- let me use the language of the senator from illinois, dick durbin. "this is the best congress that money can buy." the cheap money folks are very upset with the current administration and the irony is that 95% of americans got a tax reduction. what they're not getting is a healthy economy, health care, quality education, roads and bridges that are safe and sound , they're not getting a financial services sector that is treating them fairly. we should be lacking people who are the best and brightest, trying to make sure that we pass rules and regulations that can continue the free-market, making sure that the regulations do not sure that the regulations do not have a disparate impact those regulations should ensure that things are being done fairly, democratically, and equitably. we need laws that address creating more sustainable energy, so that we spend less at the gas pump. we need laws that make sure that people are not finding out -- people who love their insurance plan are finding out that once they get really sick how bad it really is. our who

guest: i think on the democrat side, kent conrad, but the chairman, harry reid and dick durbin, majority whip. kind of his job to make sure that his members vote the way the leadership would like them to vote. on the republican side, i take a look at judd gregg, the ranking republican on the budget committee. the republican point man for reconciliation, and tried to poke holes. watch mitch mcconnell, a decent strategist in his own right and republican leader. and jon kyl, the republican whip. the republicans, they already signed a letter, all 41, that they would also bar budget point of order -- and any budget point of order would take 60 votes to over,. democrats only have 59 votes as long as republicans remained unified. host: and democrats that they peel off or is it written stone? guest: i don't think anything is written in stone. but i can't say that senator michael bennett, appointed to replace ken salazar, interior secretary, is standing for election for the first time in colorado. he is a big proponent of the public insurance option. and at least last week when i talked to him wa

dick durbin can come on here and say, this is the largest tax cuter. can is a preposterous argument, at the same time you can make it. come on and make that argument. there are some things that are great. i will tell you, though, when nancy pelosi says we're standing up to health care insurance companies, when barack obama says, we're standing up, that is certifiably false. they've got a lot of great arguments to make. that is a false argument. they need to get off it. even their most ardent supporters know it's not true. >> is it okay to be excited about parts of a bill, is it okay to say this will help small businesses right away and that there are some tax cuts there for the middle class? i know you see it differently as some things kick in later. >> this is what i would say. pat buchanan, i would talk about the morality of this. i would say we've got 31 million americans that deserve health insurance now. if i were a democrat, a progressive, if i were the president, and i would also talk about the small business tax cuts. mika brings up a great poi

the plan that the democrats have put forward will not reduce costs, even one of their senators, dick durbinweek on the floor of the senate. the bill also does not allow people to continue the current health insurance that they have which the president has been saying you could do. in his meeting with republicans at our retreat, he admitted that he had been saying that incorrectly. he still -- he's still saying it even though he said it was incorrect, because you will not be allowed to keep your insurance if you like it. republicans want to be able -- for americans to buy their health care across state lines. we want medical liability reform. we want a health savings account. we want to put americans in charge of their health care, in charge of their health insurance. we don't want a giant government takeover of health insurance and health care. this can be done to help americans, but what the democrats are proposing will not be the right thing to do. i serve on the rules committee. they are planning to bring a rule that will say, if you vote for the rule, you voted for the bill. that's neve

are here today to tell president obama, nancy pelosi, harry reid, chuck schumer and our senator, dick durbin they need to have more courage. our congressman luis gutierrez. you have only 13 days left to keep your promise to the latino community. remember, if it wasn't for them you wouldn't have won that are now the new blue states that were historically red states. if you don't come do what we ask to you do, what you promise to do, we will leave you where we found you before we voted you into office. because, amigos keep promises. [speaking in native tongue] you don't act like our friends? you have not only broken your promises to move immigration reform, you have made the situation worse. deporting more people, separating more families, breaking more of our children's hearts than did the republicans in their final aggressive year. you have the power. you must use it or you will lose it. we will not live peacefully in a nation that is at war with our community and with our families. don't mistake our faith for weakness. remember what jesus said, i did not come to bring peace but a sword. wha

here today to tell the president obama, nancy pelosi, harry reid, chuck schumer and our senator, dick durbin, that they need to have more courage. they need to be like our congressman luis gutierrez. you have only 13 days left to keep your promise to the latino community. remember, if it wasn't for them you wouldn't have won that are now the new blue states that were historically red states. if you don't come do what we ask to you do, what you promise to do, we will leave you where we found you before we voted you into office. because, amigos keep promises. [speaking in native tongue] you don't act like our friends? you have not only broken your promises to move immigration reform, you have made the situation worse. deporting more people, separating more families, breaking more of our children's hearts than did the republicans in their final aggressive year. you have the power. you must use it or you will lose it. we will not live peacefully in a nation that is at war with our community and with our families. don't mistake our faith for weakness. remember what jesus said, i did not come to b