the chairman of the senate judiciary committee, dick durbin, joins me next. >>> plus millions of americans in danger of losing their homes can now breathe a sigh of relief because one democratic member of congress drove the most powerful person in washington to take action. >> sometimes presence makes all the difference. that's what this was here. >> i'll speak to the leader of the protest, congresswoman cori bush, ahead. >>> hello. i'm dana bash in washington where the state of our union is in rewind. for the first time since february, the u.s. is averaging more than 100,000 new covid cases per day. hospitalizations and deaths are also once again on the rise. almost exclusively among the unvaccinated. president biden this week flashed new levels of frustration, rebuking republican governors for standing in the way of vaccine and mask requirements. >> if some governors aren't willing to do the right thing to beat this pandemic, they should allow businesses and universities who want to do the right thing to be able to do it. i say to these governors, please help. if you're not going to help

this morning, senator dick durbin, who was in that room, gave an idea of what was uncovered. >> he was by the white house, the leadership and the white house, to meet with certain people who had these wild bizarre theories of why the election wasn't valid. and he refused to do it. i would have to say history is going to be -- when it is all over and when he was initially appointed, i didn't think that was the case. i was wrong. >> senator durbin also teasing testimony from another key witness, coming up this week. >> voluntary cooperation of people like jeffrey rosen and richard donohue is invaluable. there is another meeting coming up this week, another interview. we're going to keep pushing forward on this. i've been than since january. now we're getting real results. >> also happening on the hill, the senate is back in session today, hoping to push that bipartisan infrastructure bill across the finish line. this morning, one gop senator says he'll be voting no, not because of the contents of the bill, but what it means for the democrats' $3.5 trillion reconciliation plan on human in

to help in his effort to over turn the 2020 election result pps the chairman of that committee dick durbin revealing what they learned from rosen's testimony yesterday. >> what was the most shocking to you? >> how directly, personally involved the president wads involved. the pressure he was putting on jeffrey rosen. it was real and specific. this president is not subtle when he wants something. i think it's a good thing for america that we had the person like rosen in that position who withstood the pressure. >> the senate is back in session today as they work to pass that $1 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill. democratic senators expressing today they believe they will get the votes but some republicans pushing back in opposition. >> i think it was very clear we had 18 senators on the republican side who joined us in closing debate. two others said they would do so but they were absent. we have pretty strong support, strong bipartisan support. >> pelosi said all along she will not allow this bill to go through the house unless they get their $5.5 trillion reckless tax spending bill

this morning, dick durbin revealing what mr. voluntarily and cooperated with us. there was a lot there. you can imagine, seven hours of testimony. and it really is important that we asked these questions because what was going on in the department of justice was frightening from a constitutional point of view. >> joining us now, richard blumenthal, a member of the judiciary committee, and who was in that room during that interview. let's start with how the interviews came about. you heard chairman durbin say that rosen showed up voluntarily. what were the circumstances that led to that? how significant is it that he did go of his own volition? >> it was significant that he appeared voluntarily because the department of justice waived whatever barriers it might have imposed on him. and i think it showed his willingness, indeed his eagerness to cooperate. i hope that other witnesses will be similarly cooperative. because it is essential, absolutely vital, that the american people have this story from jeffrey rosen. and everyone in

the senator dick durbin said that speaker pelosi has a challenge on her hands.nk it will take? >> i have confidence that speaker pelosi and the caucus will pull this off. together, they represent the president's plan. it's one piece to reduce the cost of prescription drugs and child care, and extend the middle class tax cuts for families and to do other things to provide every american with an opportunity to get a great education. i think the speaker will balance both of the priorpriorities. at the end of the day, we won't have just one piece back. we'll have the entire thing. the "new york times" is reporting that the head of the civil division, jeffrey clark asked jeffrey rosen to send it to georgia legislators. it asserted they should void biden's victory. how concerned can we be that someone this high up got this close to subverting the election? >> this shows how fragile our democracy can be. when you have somebody trying to sabotage the results of election, like the president of the united states, through people that are willing to do his bidding, we shoul

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chair of the judiciary committee, senator dick durbin on cnn today detailing the seven-hour meeting with rosen. >> he was being asked by the white house, the leadership in the white house to meet with certain people who had these wild, bizarre theories of why the election was invalid and he refused to do it. i will have to say history will be very kind to mr. rosen when it's all over. when he was initially appointed i didn't think that was case and i was wrong. >> as we learn more about trump's attempt to hold on to power, remember what he and the republican party call themselves, the party of "law & order," and it's not what republicans want these days. instead they pine for a strongman who with kaeld power of the state against the maga base's political foes and who would deploy the police to coddle. joining me now to discuss investigative journalist, and a former u.s. attorney who is also an msnbc legal analyst. what does this tell us about how close we were the a coup here in america? >> well, it's interesting, first, that he got in the door as quickly as he did. there are efforts fro

. >> dick durbin said that rosen specifically, he testified to how personally and directly involved trump to pressure these top justice department officials. >> he's the former acting attorney general. >> exactly. and helping trying to get them to help him overturn the election results. now, rosen says the former president never specifically asked him to overturn the results, but was asking him to sort of get involved in specific state elections, helping them to help him in this larger effort to basically steal the election. now let's take a listen to what durbin said. we have a clip from what he told cnn on sunday. >> what was going on in the department of justice was frightening from a constitutional point of view, to think that bill barr left, resigned after he had announced he didn't see irregularities in the election and that the pressure he was putting on jeffrey rosen, it was real, very real, and it was very specific. this president's not subtle when he wants something, the former president, is not subtle when he wants something. and i think it's a good thing for america that we ha

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take a listen to what dick durbin said today about speaker pelosi. >> nancy pelosi has an extraordinary challenge, four vote margin. that isn't much when you really sit down and count votes. i don't want to really project a strategy. i want her to do it. she's accomplished as they come. >> could understand people want to see the infrastructure bill passed with no keys attached but she has to have enough votes for the infrastructure bill but the follow on budget resolution. so i give her all of the flexibility she needs to reach that goal. >> eugene, you could elaborate on that challenge and what we know about the strategies she plans to pursue? >> smart man, not to try to change the strategy for speaker pelosi. and she handles her own strategy and probably isn't taking advice from outside folks right now. the thing that we know about her strategy, is she is where she said at the very beginning. which i want to see both of these things at the same time. i wap to see both of these things early on. that is something that progressives have taken to heart and they continue to say that. so so

i wonder if senator dick durbin was on last hour, he described seven hours of testimony from mr.timony from the most senior official at the justice department might have been the difference between acquittal and conviction? >> well, thank you for having me on, nicolle. it is always good to be with you. i wonder. certainly this testimony is extraordinarily important, and the difference now is that late, i think it was last month, the new department of justice released former members of the trump administration department of justice to speak if they wanted to, to house oversight and to the senate judiciary committee, which, of course, they did over the weekend. prior to that they were operating under trump's department of justice. so while i wish we could have had that testimony, it might have made a difference, but, remember, we had testimony that was very damning of the president doing the very same thing, polling the -- excuse me, the department of state, raffensperger and saying, i just need you to find me 11,780 votes. >> right. >> when i heard that testimony and then we heard

. >> it was on the senate floor that dick durbin of illinois made the case for the potential economic benefits for this. what to play for you what he said. >> let's be clear, a pathway to citizenship as part of our immigration package on the budget reconciliation bill would have a substantial and direct impact on our budget. a pathway to citizenship for dreamers and emigrants with temporary protected status would have a budgetary cost of approximately $42 billion over 10 years according to the cbo. thiss

he did support it as did dick durbin. in australia, there was a great example. they basically were trying to charge them for content. when that happened, google and facebook said, "oh, sorry, we're going to leave your country." that is the definition of a monopoly. there was so much pushback internationally they had to negotiate with their content. that is the long haul. that is a long haul strategy. and that is to even the playing field so we have more real content that people are accessing. that is the way to look at it in the optimistic lens. that will take people in washington not being afraid to stand up to them anymore whether it is privacy -- we waited and waited too long for privacy rules. whether it is misinformation, whether it is all of the stuff that is going on misinformation on the vaccine. i do feel like there is huge movement and those that have been really on the move, enforcers in place and the justice department that are much more interested in this than the last administration in terms of taking it on in a big way. in that way, i am really, r

dick durbin who was a senator reportedly from illinois just set it out loud on the floor of the senateays ago. last week, "the new york times" published an op-ed and we are giving it a title here directly "there is no good reason you should have to be a citizen devote."d the millions coming and should be able to choose your government. the author of that piece argues that noncitizens contribute just as much to this country is people who are born here and they should be allowed to pick the government. if that doesn't scare you nothing will. a senior fellow at the hoover institute enjoins us tonight. thank you so much for coming on. so they scream at you if you repeat their own words back to them but i think it's pretty clear they are not even hiding it that the whole point of their immigration policy is to ensure political control.ei replace the population, get a different outcome. am i misreading this? >> no, you are not and it's important that you stress the urgency's just as we are seeing the efforts to destroy the electoral college or pack report, they feel the constituency of the p

and then there were proofreaders and dick durbin and thenal how he gave me a new mission and i send hims to read and i sat down with different folks and then also a new york times best-selling author. there is a lot of people helping me along the way. host: i love that helping out with that great detail. what was the hardest part of this book to write? but there might be another part. >> early childhood was the not the shootdown because the bad guys to game. it was w not an accident it was intentional and he landed the bird. it's fine. it's not on me but the fact that the pilot the man of the aircraft it a remarkable piece of flying and landed the bird in one piece that's why we are all alive so i have to honor his expertise he was given the distinguished flying cross for his actions it was not crash but it was a landing and an amazing effort to pilot tree. >> so we make sure we say shootdown. >> early childhood was the hardest to write. and then julie start talking about it in recent years as the nation has been more of a depression i was very ashamed of being on food stamps for a long

i want to play some sound for you from senator dick durbin, recalling rosen's testimony. >> he told usot, seven hours of testimony. i might quickly add, this was done on a bipartisan basis, democratic staff and republican legal staff, asking questions during this period of time. mr. rosen appeared voluntarily, which says a lot, and cooperated with us. the justice department had set it up for us, and said we're waiving any privilege. he can speak to any issue, we're not holding back. i thought he was very open. and there's an awful lot there. you can imagine, seven hours of testimony. >> barbara, you have senator blumenthal saying, listen, rosen revealed things that were not known before this investigation. where does this lead the investigation? >> i think it's a great illustration of how so often we assume that what is in the public domain is the whole store. so on which in investigations there are facts that are not publicly known. i also they that one significant reason jeffrey rosen was able to tell the facts is because the justice department has waived any executive privilege. don

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senate judiciary chairman dick durbin wants to interview president trump's former chief of staff, markthink? do you think it will happen? >> i know mark meadows. i served with him. but mark meadows, he has to answer questions. you know, he was in the white house at the time. you know, based on a lot of reports he seemed to be aiding and abetting mr. trump, former president trump in his attempt to try to change the election outcome. so i think it's fair game that mr. meadows and others in that white house answer questions about their role leading up to insurrection day. and not only -- not just what happened on that day but what happened prior to election day, and this is one of those i think seminal moments we need answers, need some clarity. the american public deserves to know. >> we hope we can get you to a studio next time. we know you had some issues but you came through perfectly clear on your voice. >> can i make a very quick point to charlie? the fulton county d.a. may yet prosecute trump. he's considering -- she is considering prosecuting trump for the raffensperger call so th

and this morning on cnn's state of the union dick durbin told dana bash that according to testimony trumpo asked rosen to do certain things and meet with people related to crazy conspiracy theory. rosen refused to do it. >> just how directly personally involved the president was, the pressure he was putting on jeffrey rosen, it was real, very real. it was very specific. this president's not subtle when he wants something, former president. i think it's a good thing for america that we had a person like rosen in that position who w withstood the pressure? >> dana bash joins me now. really incredible to hear that from senator durbin, just the fact that the acting attorney general was standing in way of what appeared to be an attempted coup. where might we be if he had gone along with former president trump's request? >> maybe the answer is another thing that senator durbin told me which is what the former president was trying to do was find whomever he could in the justice department who agreed with him, which is why he ended up with somebody who does environmental law and not election law

jon: dick durbin there. alongside tom keene and lisa abramowicz, i'm jonathan ferro.ng the price action in your equity market on the s&p 500. futures up 12 and we advance by about .3 percent. david kostin in the team raising their price target to 4700 from 4300 for year. into the bond markets, yields unchanged, euro-dollar doing not a lot, 1.1842. positive 0.04%. it claims up two hours and 12 minutes away. tom: important after the tough adp number. i want to point out the vix is constructive for the bulls. as you well know, and this is a point of massive argument here at team surveillance, amory harden moving from london to washington, it has been a strain, the shift from -- tea is horrible, garbage water, and she has coffee to this morning because she has been reading over 250 infrastructure amendments. how do the elite on capitol hill get through 250 plus infrastructure amendments? >> not all of them will hit the floor but there are certain ones we should be paying attention to, especially today, one on cryptocurrencies likely to go ahead on terms of a vote on that

this is senator dick durbin who is senate of the judiciary committee. he was asked this afternoon by nicole wallace if what we witnessed after the election was an attempted coup. we will discuss on the other side. >> look at the progression of events -- first, the onslaught of lawsuits. going to the judiciary with many of the judges that he appointed. then he went to the department of justice and said he would manipulate the attorney general into really initiating and investigation to particular states and we know what happened then he turned the mob loose on the united states capitol. we should dismiss this as a bad day for donald trump. it was a conscious plan, strategy, and it did not work. scso neil, interview, how close did we come -- and you take the optimistic knew that out there about your beloved department of justice that the good news is the system held? >> i think we came very close from everything it looks like, this is dumb held but it held because of a couple of people and it looks like brian with each additional fact that we've learned j

both of those interviews with donahue and rosen, is that the senate judiciary committee chairman dick durbin spoke to dana bash. he deparidn't provide new information. >> how directly the president was involved. the pressure he was putting on jeffrey rosen, it was real. very real. it was very specific. this president is not subtle. the former president. he isn't subtle when he wants something. it's a good thing for america that we had rosen that withstood the pressure. >> the committee wants to talk to jeff clark. over the weekend, he's been in talks with capitol hill about a potential interview. back to you. >> thank you so much. >>> when a public health crisis becomes political, the outcome can be deadly. coming up, the damage from rhetoric and misinformation. >>> plus, mass covid testing is underway in parts of china after an uptick in new cases. a live report from beijing after the break. why new woolite? because it was specially formulated to protect synthetics and blends from damage in the wash. like fading, stretching, and pilling. new woolite has evercare, a first of its kind formula

we don't know the answer to that, and the senate judiciary committee led by dick durbin, the chairman, is trying to get some answers. >> jon avlon, we know the president was pushing georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger to push his fraudulent election claims. but luckily the system worked and state officials did their jobs. what happens if there is a next time and those officials aren't there or, you know, if these new voter laws go into effect, they could just overturn the election. >> that's why we need to pay attention to these efforts, not just to voter suppression, but what an election law expert has called election subversion. brad raffensperger stood up, did the right thing, was under direct threat on tape by the president of the united states to find 11,000 votes so he could win the election. raffensperger was kneekneecappe his own political party and now republican congress men are running to hold that office so the next time, they would do the will of the trumpist figure. that's why we need to keep our eye on the ball because this is not over. what we've learned, it'

just before the program i spoke with the chairman of that committee, senator dick durbin, about the testimonyjoining us. based on what your committee has recently heard from these two high-ranking justice officials, jeffrey rosen and mr. >> the pressure was as tough as it gets in this town of washington. here's the president of the united states basically saying, here's what i want you to do, if you can't do it, i've got somebody to replace you. that's pretty powerful. >> i mean, all this information coming the way from the report last week that jeffrey clark, environmental lawyer, had circulated a letter within the department after the election which he wanted to send to state officials to georgia falsely claiming the justice department had identified signature concerns that may have impacted the outcome of the election in multiple states, including the state of georgia. he was trying to get the doj to wade pressure officials to wade into results. do you think the public grasped how dangerous something like this is? >> i don't think they do. there were so many bizarre twists and turns in the

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. >> it was on the senate floor that dick durbin of illinois made the case for the potential economic benefits for this. what to play for you what he said. >> let's be clear, a pathway to citizenship as part of our immigration package on the budget reconciliation bill would have a substantial and direct impact on our budget. a pathway to citizenship for dreamers and emigrants with temporary protected status would have a budgetary cost of approximately $42 billion over 10 years according to the cbo. this is a critical component of our economic recovery. there is no world in which this budgetary impact is merely accidental. $42.4 billion. treating a pathway to citizenship is not just a cost, there are also benefits. it would boost our nations gdp by 1.5 trillion dollars over the next 10 years. it would create 400,000 new jobs and increase every american's annual wage by an estimated $600. when? there is precedent for passing the sledge ration -- legislation through budget reconciliation. publicans have used process to open the wildlife refuge in alaska for drilling and an act a tax cut

the senate judiciary committee is investigating chairman dick durbin, the chairman of the committee toldng witnesses in the coming days and weeks, in the house oversight committee reportedly spent several hours yesterday, interviewing that top justice official, who drafted the resignation letter. what more can we expect to learn? joining us now is a member of the house oversight committee, illinois congressman, thank you for joining, us you and i have talked about some amazing things over the last few. years this is really out there. there was a senior official of the justice department, fully expecting his two bosses to get fired, because they would not agree to donald trump's request to call the election corrupt or to somehow undermine the election. he was ready to hit send. it was even a surprise to him that jeffrey rosen did not get fired. >> that's, right that shows you how close we were to a calamitous results in the justice department, this gentleman a fellow member of the complicated surname club, decided that basically it's very possible that his boss and his bosses boss were ab

hunkered down to write and then event ten minutes and then to help me along and proofreaders and dick durbinhe senior senator. and then i am a big fan of sharon brown and his thought process in his writings. chapter here and there and then gave me feedback. i had feedback along the way. >> that they are reaching out with great detail. what was the hardest part of the book to write? but there might be another part that you found quick. >> actually my early childhood was the hardest part. it was not an accident it was intentional. it's not on me but the fact this aircraft did a remarkable piece of flying and landed the bird in one piece that's why we are all alive. i want to honor his expertise and he had distinguished flying cross with his actions on that day. i always say it's not a crash but it is a landing. it was an amazing effort to pilot tree one - - pilot. so to reliving poverty in hawaii and also ellie start talking about in recent years as the nation has been in more of a recession and talk about it more and the fact i was on food stamps i was very ashamed for a long time in my early

dick durbin told cnn that rosen was facing pressure from the top.ortant that we ask these questions. to think that bill barr left, resigned after he announced he didn't see irregularities in the election and his replacement was under extraordinary pressure, the president of the united states, even to the point that they were talking about replacing him. that pressure was on. >> cnn's senior legal affairs correspondent, paula reed is with me now. what else do we know about what rosen and his deputy told the senate judiciary committee? >> both rosen and donoghue told the committee they were not sure whether clark was acting at president trump's behest or carrying out a plot that he orchestrated himself. both men testified that when they interacted with trump he never pressured them to do anything illegal and he did seem to understand that the justice department couldn't do anything to help him because they didn't have enough evidence of fraud. some unusual details uncovered by our colleagues about what exactly clark was trying to push inside the justi

dana bash talks to senator bill cassidy, dick durbin, cori bush and anita dunn. you can also catch me saturdays and sundays starting at 6:00 p.m. eastern. i'm pamela brown in for jake tapper. our coverage continues now with wolf blitzer in "the situation room." have a great weekend. ♪ >>> happening now, the u.s. reaches a milestone in the fight against covid. half the u.s. population is now fully vaccinated. but the other 50%, more than 160 million americans, still unprotected as the delta variant pushes new cases to the brink of 100,000 per day. >>> also tonight, fresh evidence of former president trump's attempted coup. we have new details on a high-level intelligence briefing given to a top trump ally at the u.s. justice department as he schemed to overturn the election. >>> and attorneys for the new york governor andrew cuomo, they are now fighting back after one of his current former staf

investigation will report conduct interviews related to january 6th and also on the senate side, dick durbinressing ahead, telling me jeffrey clark, the man you mentioned, the official who tried to pressure states to overturn the elections, he wants to talk to him as well, erin. >> thank you very much. so i want to go straight to ryan goodman. he is the former special counsel at the department of defense and now the professor of ny school of law along with john dean. i appreciate both of you. we need your analysis as you look at this moving to a new phase. when you look at the totality of what trump did in the weeks leading up to january 6th of which i just laid out some of it. the pressure he was putting on officials to back his lie from georgia to the department of justice to other states. do you see a crime here by trump? >> erin, thank you. i certainly do. that's an impressive list. i think it's an important list. the only thing i would add is the bending of the arm of the vice president as well goes into there. and it is a clear effort to overthrow the election. it is a very conspicuous

annmarie: right now you are seeing the senate majority whip dick durbin talking.ou are just on the heels of a speech from senate majority leader mitch mcconnell asked senate minority leader -- senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, who said he's very much against the $3.5 trillion reconciliation package. we will move to the vote on that framework. what senator mcconnell was saying is that every single senator on the republican side will come forward with their disagreement on the democrats' spending of this package. he cited high inflation is one of those reasons, and he said they will bring amendment. so it is hard to say what the timeline will be because we just don't know. they could be very quick. there could be a few amendments. or we could see 50 republicans come up with amendments and a could take hours. i bring you to recent memory of march, when senator schumer had the record open for one of them and taking 11 hours and 50 minutes. so it could be a short day or a very long evening. alix: thank you very much. let's go to the small business world. a really

rosen resisted but dick durbin, the senate judiciary chairman, told me earlier today that he does want he said, quote, i'd like to have the opportunity to interview him. now, meadows declined to comment to us about whether he would actually voluntarily agree, and if he does not, then they would have to subpoena him. you would need support from a republican. the republican ranking member chuck grassley told me that he would not yet commit to this, he wanted to talk about this further. the house select committee is launching its own investigation into january 6th, about their efforts to try to overturn the electoral results. the house is different, they can issue subpoenas without the support of republicans. so undoubtedly meadows will come under pressure along with other allies of his who tried to join donald trump in questioning the election results. >> manu, thank you very much. >>> coming up, lies and misinformation get controversial republican congresswoman marjorie taylor greene suspended from twitter again. (upbeat pop music in background throughout) if you have this... consider a

both of those interviews with donahue and rosen is that the senate judiciary committee chairman dick durbino dana bash. he didn't provide new information but had a key take away. here is what he told dana. >> how directly, personally involved the president was, the pressure he was putting on jeffrey rosen was reel. very real. it was very specific. this president is not subtle when he wants something. the former president. he's not subtle when he wants something. and i think it's a good thing for america that we had a person like rosen in that position. had he said the committee wants to talk with jeff clark in the coming weeks. and my sources told me over the weekend that he has been in talks with capitol hill about a potential interview. back to you. >> great. thank you so much for that. >>> this has been the string that all the committees have been trying to go for is what happened between former president trump and going on within the justice department. none of these investigations, so far, has been able to bring a formal abnalysis of that but ar getting little bits of it. we'll bring i

this is senate majority whip dick durbin on the senate floor, where he called to abolish the filibuster to it as a legislative rock bottom. >> today, nearly 65 years after strom thurmond's marathon defense of jim crow, the filibuster is still making a mockery of american democracy. the filibuster is still being misused by some senators to block legislation urgently needed in support by a strong majority of the american people. amy: if you can respond to that. ben,eople for the american ways to be pro-filibuster. what happened? >> one thing was on mitch mcconnell change the filibust rules in order to pack thert with far right wing justices, which, again, this is th guy wh said he would not push through a justice if itas in the last year. you forgot about at. republicans areindly using power -- using power when they have it. they have pack our courts with justices even of they lost the popur vote again and again and again. this is what we're dealing with. mitch connell d hiepoxy don't hold much wght with us. ere was a time wheit felt like -- wh we have rht now is unbridled corruption in s

it was a herculean effort to anyone who could potentially help including senator dick durbin, presidentesident harris. they're out of afghanistan as of this week, safe at last. major shoeman spoke with rachel maddow about saving the man who helped him. >> knowing all the different things you tried, all the different ways you worked on this, i feel like i can't imagine if this was -- if zach would have been my interpreter if i had been trying to do this, i don't know what else i would have done that you didn't do. and still it just seems like he barely, barely made it. it feels like this was maximal resources for something that only just barely worked. that's my perception from the outside. is that what it feels like to you? >> we pulled every lever, poked every bear. it was just a series of hail marys and when senator durbin, we're very grateful that he took this cause and brought it to the top and we thought that that's it, we're -- that will be it, negative, and there's so many close calls and so many moments where we thought maybe we contacted the right person, maybe we had the right

dick durbin on cnn today says he does not want to project the strategy and wants to give her all the flexibility she needs to reach her goal. that extra bill pelosi is trying to pile on with democratic wish list items has zero republican support, so that's a major problem for republicans who warn that going along with a trillion dollars for things like roads and bridges isn't really going along with just a trillion dollars, here is rick scott on fox news sunday. >> nancy pelosi has said all along she will not allow this bill to go through the house unless they get their 5.5 this will dollar reckless tax and spending bill done at the same time. so let's remember if you helped get this done, you have helping to get the $5.5 trillion bill done. peter: the president is here in wilmington, we don't expect to see him on camera for the rest of the day. we think he is going to go back to washington tomorrow, to watch play out the final hours of the vote, chris. griff: peter doocy in wilmington keeping track of the president wherever he goes, thank you, peter. jacqui. jacqui: working on 1 tri

and top allies, pressure campaign to overturn joe biden's win in 2020, senate judiciary chir man dick durbinaff, mark meadows. the committee obtained documents showing meadows sent five emails to acting attorney general jeffrey rosen asking him to look into false election fraud claims. this comes as former u.s. attorney in atlanta b.j. pox is set to testify today. he suddenly resigned in january as trump ramped up attacks on georgia's election results and following a release of an audio recording with trump -- joining me to discuss, renato mariota. good to see you this morning. if there can be testimony from mark meadows, how significant do you think that would be in laying out maybe the scope, the scale of these efforts by the former president and his top aides to pressure the justice department to intervene and overturn the election. >> it could be very significant. obviously mr. meadows was there, he was there, present, having a lot of conversations with former president trump. he would i think present significant evidence of trump's state of mind, but, of course, i don't expect mr. meado

dick durbin told me he is among those he would like to speak with.nd also jeffrey clark who apparently was behind a lot of these efforts as well. this is all part of the probe going forward, but yesterday's revelations could be key to this committee as it tries to piece together what donald trump did in the aftermath of the election to pressure a i think are a of folks to get the election results he wanted. >> manu raju, thank you so much. >>> handrand paul revealing hise purchased stock in the maker of remdesivir. it should have been disclosed within 45 days, that is the law. the senator spokeswoman says it was reported 16 months late because the form was never transmitted. the spokesman also says paul's wife kelly lost money on that investment. >>> a federal judge now clearing the way for defamation lawsuits against rudy giuliani, sydney powell and mike lindell, all of this could possibly end up in trial. the judge denied requests to throw out the lawsuits which alleged that the three trump allies made unfounded claims of election fraud involving d

>> dick durbin, senator from illinois, chairman of the committee was talking to us earlier this. evening senator blumenthal, he was making suggestions about what's next witness will be taken. there are limits to what we can get done without support from the minority, from republicans. it's hard for the senate judiciary committee to issue and carry out subpoenas, to compel testimony. if you get clear enough evidence to justify a criminal authority, i will leave that to the committee chair to decide, we might put this to the attorney justice who has a greater aware of tools at their disposal to convene grand juries and get to the bottom of this. >> i know you have a vote to take, thank you for your time this evening. i am ping-ponging between issues now. the stuff the administrations may be doing. i want to go back to the thing they are not voting on yet, that is the larger reconciliation bill. the human infrastructure. i don't know what we call this anymore. the big bill, three and a half trillion dollar bill. there are a whole lot of people in the house saying, we are not moving

chairman dick durbin told cnn he wants to hear from jeffrey clark. general, jeffrey rosen. they already heard testimony from rosen's former deputy as well. how do you think the findings of that investigation are going to stack up compared to the findings of the january 6th select committee? i ask because there are three republican senators who objected to the election results on that panel, margaret. >> well, that's right. but look, fundamentally what's happening with this investigation and what's happening with january 6th are different because january 6th there are clear-cut predicates for criminal prosecution and i think that's less clear in this case. this is at this point political and i don't mean that it's political that it's not worthy, it's worthy. facts are coming to light, but it's not clear what charges, if any, can be attached to memos encouraging the justice department to do something that ultimately it said no way, we're not doing this. whereas, i think in the january 6th case the investigations into the president or former president a

the senator dick durbin called it frightening. it was also illuminating and lengthy.urces are telling us that they focussed in on their interactions with the former president trump. but, wolf, lawmakers of course are zeroed in on efforts by another top justice department official at the time, jeffrey clark, and his efforts to promote those false claims of election fraud. members of congress are learning more about just how close the country came to crisis in the waning days of the trump administration. >> what was going on in the department of justice was frightening. >> revelations revealed after hours of system from the two men that led the justice department at the time, jeffrey rosen and his deputy richard donahue. >> the country came very close to a coup. >> the senator was one of several republican and democratic senators who sat in on closed door interviews with rosen and donahue over the weekend. under questioning from senate staff, rosen revealed how the former president repeatedly pressured him to back false claims of election fraud. >> he was asking him to

senator dick durbin. listen to what he described.y committee is looking at this, the house committee as well. listen. >> just how directly personally involved the president was, the pressure he was putting on jeffrey rosen. it was real. very real. and it was very specific. this president's not subtle. he's not subtle when he wants something. >> you were covering the white house at the time. we knew this was happening, but now we are getting such remarkable details. secretaries of state saying can you flip this in georgia, but asking the then attorney general of the united states. top law enforcement officer in the country to declare the election corrupt. essentially clear the path for me to stay here. >> right, after bill barr stepped down and said there is no evidence of any kind of fraud, at least not widespread, in this election. i think what is so unusual about this are these conversations between jeffrey clark and then president trump. for the head of the civil division to be end running the acting attorney general or attorney g

yesterday illinois senator dick durbin, the chairman of the senate judiciary committee, indicated that he would like the opportunity to interview meadows. but you have to ask, what has the department of justice been doing for the last seven months when it comes to mark meadows? on monday night on this show, i asked the same thing about donald trump. but look, i get that prosecuting a former president for inciting a coup and trying to deprive millions of americans of a fair election process can be a bit complicated. it's unprecedented. but it shouldn't be for a now private citizen like mark meadows. why is he still a free bird, out there acting like trump's ever so loyal chief of staff? >> the magic is still there. we've been here actually working on what comes next, not only in 2024 but how we win back the house in 2022. we're looking at what does come next. i'm not authorized to speak on behalf of the president. >> okay. >> but i can tell you this, steve, we wouldn't be meeting tonight if we weren't making plans to move forward in a real way and with president trump at the head of tha

today the senate majority whip dick durbin spoke about an interview his committee just conducted witheneral jeffrey rosen. let's take a listen to that. >> just how directly, personally involved the president was, the pressure he was putting on jeffrey rosen, it was real. very real. and it was very specific. this president is not subtle when he wants something. the former president. he's not subtle when he wants something. and i think it's a good thing for america that we had a person like rosen in that position who stood -- withstood the pressure. >> congressman, what do you make of these latest revelations, and how intense was this pressure that the president and other members of the administration were applying on the justice department and the acting attorney general. >> yeah, it's interesting. i was part of the second impeachment trial of the senate trial. and throughout that tirrial, i kept saying, why aren't we calling this an attempted coup? we were referring to it as an insurrection, which we continue to do. but really it was an attempted coup. and those folks that stormed the

this is senator dick durbin, who happens to be chairman of the senate judiciary committee. he was asked this afternoon by my colleague and friend nicolle wallace if what we witnessed after the election was an attempted coup. we'll discuss on the other side. >> look at the progression of events. first, the onslaught of lawsuits going through the judiciary with many of the judges that he appointed. then he went to the department of justice, and he decided he would manipulate the attorney general into really initiating an investigation into particular states. and we know what happened then. he turned the mob loose on the united states capitol. so we shouldn't just dismiss this as a bad day for donald trump. it was conscious, planned strategy that did not work. >> so neal, in your view, how close did we come? and do you take the optimistic view that's out there about your beloved department of justice that the good news is the system held? >> i think we came very close from everything it looks like. and yeah, the system held, but it held because of a couple of people. and it lo