i'll talk to the senate committee chairman dick durbin joining me for insight and bade.ashington post columnist eugene analyses are rachael bade, "the washington post" columnist eugene robinson, amy walter of the cook political report, and marc short former choof of staff to vice president mike pence welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press." >> from nbc news in washington, the longest-running show in television history this is "meet the press" with chuck todd >>> good sunday morning. americans are seething at their political leaders and at each other. that's according to brand-ne nbc news poll we are releasing right now. they're dissatisfied with what seems to be inevitable a 2024 rematch between joe biden and donald trump, as biden prepares to formally announce his campaign for a second term this week just one in four americans believe he should run for re-election 70% say he shouldn't run. by the way, only 5% of american shouldn't run. actually want both of these gentlemen to run and let me show you even more of this poll 50% of 2020 biden voters say he shouldn't run.

celebrate what she did, kind of denigrate what she is today. >> we look forward to you talking to dick durbin. we'll look forward to watching on sunday. we'll see you then, chuck. >> you can see both these gee men on sunday. "meet the press" sunday at 8:00 at on nbc bay area. senator durbin and the republican governor of new hampshire sununu on "meet the press" sunday mornings on nbc bay area. kira, of course, is our sunday morning anchor. your newscast starts at 7:00 a.m. we're busy 7:00 to 10:00 a.m. sunday. >> turn on nbc bay area and don't go anywhere. >> your alarm clock is already set. >> quite early, thank you. >>> beautiful weather. >> right? the payoff after months of dreariness. >> today was the warmest weather we've had in six months. >> wow. >> yeah. >> i believe it. >> this stretch of sunshine we haven't seen in over six months. so we all deserve it. here's to the weekend. if you're getting an early start, maybe heading out to the game, the giants and the mets going at it tonight. that game is right here on nbc bay area. if you don't have tickets, no problem. pick your most comfo

dick durbin joins me now. r durbin, welcome back to "meet the press". >> good to be with you, chuck. >> i want to start with this issue of trying to create formal ethics standards for supreme court justices. you invited chief justice roberts. he appears to have responded by saying thank you. go ask the judicial reform folks for somebody. have you -- double he has turned your invitation down? some of us are debating whether that response is an official decline of your invite? >> i don't view that as an official response and we're waiting for the chief justice to answer my invitation. i think that's the first step that auto to be taken with the supreme court itself, with its leader, the chief justice. make it clear that they're going to bring reform when it comes to the ethics to the court and spell out what they're going to do. i asked the chief justice ten years ago the very question we're asking today, what is the court going to do to bring its standards of ethics up to the level of even other courts in this c

i want to play the sound o dick durbin on meet the pres this morning explaining why he invited john robertsstif but not clarence thomas. have a listen. >> i know what would happen to the confrontation. he would be ignored. and it is far better from my point of view, to the chie justice there. listen, this is john roberts - dealing with a situation where history will remember this a such >> ian, do you buy that, and what should the democratic lead, but rather weak senate judiciary committee be doing right now? >> the problem is there's no really anything that can b done about clarence thomas you can china light on him, an get people in to understan that he is a republican trum appointee and if they don' want more people like him they shouldn't vote for the republican party but, you know, dick durbin can hold hearings, chief justice roberts could potentially shak his fist and frustration a clarence thomas, but at the en of the day the only way to remove him, no matter ho corrupt he is, no matter how bonkers this decision is, is impeachment. they require 67 votes in the senate, and that requir

to use justice robert word he respectfully told dick durbin to go go in jump in a lake it is exceedinglya chief justice to appear in front of congress in any event in most case on very mundane issues. and yet this was something entirely different this was essentially durbin ordering the head of the supreme court to appear in front of congress for a grilling. and that does bring up very profound issues of separation of power it will be equivalent of congress demanding a president come and appear before an answer for himself. and i think it was very powerful that robert had that statement from the nine other justices because it showed that they all view this in the same light and it was a bit of a rebuke to all of those on the left that are currently trying to smear the court with all of these accusations of ethical and propriety. sensible justification here kyle is that -- these media reports that clarence thomas has a billionaire front who is going on vacation with -- neil gorsuch and anything somehow of las vague relationshp with somebody who had a interest way back down the road about

committee chairman dick durbin says the hearing will continue asplanned. >>> and mattel has now introduceddown syndrome. the doll was developed alongside the national down syndrome society and will be available this summer. >>> for more, download the cbs news app on your cell phone or connected tv. i'm shanelle kaul, cbs news, new york. >> announcer: this is the "cbs overnight news." >>> we want to begin with some breaking news. senior administration officials tell cbs news that the isis leader behind the 2021 suicide bombing at the kabul airport has been killed. 13 u.s. service members died in that terror attack, and 45 others were injured. at least 170 afghans were also killed. the white house did not release the terrorist's name but described the senior islamic state leader as the mastermind of the assault. it happened at an airport entrance known as abbey gate, where people were gathering, hoping to get out of afghanistan with the help of.s the deadly attack occurred during the chaotic withdrawal, and it is considered one of the presidency. cbs's david martin is going to start us off t

that is part of the letter that dick durbin sent to chief justice john roberts concerning hearing, noteing subpoenaed but voluntarily being invited to come to capitol hill to testify on those issues. we will read more about that in the supreme court, but we want to get your sense of your level of confidence in the court. perhaps it is the chief justice thomas story that affects that and also on the abortion pill. call us and let us know what you think. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. (202) 748-8000 for democrats. an independents, (202) 748-8002. let's hear from earlier. [video clip] >> serving as a federal judge and a supreme court justice is one of the highest honors in the nation we can confer on an individual, above all it is a public service. judges and justices are interested by the american people to serve the public interest and administer equal justice under the law. that is why taxpayers and not billionaire donors from judicial salaries and court houses -- funded judicial salaries and court houses. they have to put this above their own self interest. a reporting tells a much d

one of your guests this morning, senator dick durbin, has requested that the chief justice appear before the senate judiciary committee to answer questions. what is the likelihood of that happening? >> doesn't look very likely. already the chief justice has kind of responded. senator durbin says he hasn't taken it a know, but the chief justice said he received the letter and forwarded to the folks that oversee the judicial code of conduct for every other federal judge. but that's the point here. if it is against the law, if a federal judge purposely leaves out something in their financial disclosure form, but it is not a crime if a supreme court justice does it. and the reason there is a distinction is that supreme court justices are considered constitutional officers, and with separation of powers. congress can make a law that ties the hands of financial disclosure and makes it a crime if you don't do it properly for district and circuit judges, but not for constitutional officers, which are the supreme court justices. similar to the executive branch. the president and vice president ar

roberts received the invitation from democratic committee chairman dick durbin to appear next week during a hearing on ethics standards at the supreme court.oferts provhe pan with a statement of ethics signed by all nine justices. the invitation came after news reports of a close relationship between justice clarence thomas and billionaire conservative donor harlan crow. >>> reaction continues to pour in after the death of harry belafonte. the legendary actor, singer, and civil rights activist died yesterday in new york at his home at the age of 96. the reverend al sharpton tweeted, "he was a history-changing activist. a culture-changing entertainer, and an unmatched intellectual." oprah winfrey posted this on instagram, "thank you for your music, your artistry, your activism, your fight for civil rights and justice." vlad duthiers looks back at belefonte's storied life and career. ♪ >> reporter: affectionately known as the king of calypso, harry belafonte sparked a craze for caribbean music to worldwide audiences. ♪aylight come mme ♪ his 1956 album featuring hits like the "banana boat so

political contributor to talk about this it's great to talk to you about this stuff i mentioned dick durbinhere, right? and i want to read a part of his statement on this. the highest court in the land should not have the lowest ethical standards. this behavior is simply inconsistent with the ethical standards the american people expect of any public servant, let alone a justice on the supreme court. so let's be clear, durbin is not calling for an impeachment here, right? we heard aoc there call for an impeachment. are these calls for impeachment kind of coming are from the more progressive arm of the democratic party what are you hearing overall >> yeah, i mean, look, an impeachment is a very far throw right now, obviously the house is controlled by republicans who are by and large, from the ones i've spoken to, taking his side on this and said he has followed -- this is what they say, not me -- he has followed the guidelines to the best of his knowledge and to the best of his understanding. let's break this down a little bit, yasmin. it's important to remember last year, last congress the

thanks but no thanks to congress, turning down a, quote, invitation from the judiciary chairman dick durbinthe invite follows his fellow justice clarence thomas coming under scrutiny for -- previously undisclosed trips and gifts from -- the new report from the internship says crow may have bought citizenship to an island nation in order to avoid paying taxes. meanwhile the guardian is reporting -- events the supreme court nominee, brett kavanaugh, may contain some serious omissions. those were the words. republican-led judiciary seated at the time, there is no evidence to any is a claims of sexual assault against brett kavanaugh. joining me now to help us break it all down, is l in the soil, justice correspondent of the nation, and author of allow me to retort. elie, i tweeted out, it's elie, that's the sweet. i stand by it. we'll never have enough time to get to everything, salacious go for it now. at least for the nation you describe the situation at the high court -- supreme court. is this really boiling down to a super conservative majority on the highest -- not wanting to cede any grou

i guess dick durbin has asked him to do, so and he said he's not going to.t. he says testimony before the senate judiciary committee by the chief justice of the united states is exceedingly rare, as one might expect in light of the separations of powers preserving the importance of judicial independence. that makes sense, that makes sense to me. but is this kind of a different situation, where he should do so? go ahead. >> i'm just kind of floored by -- i mean, we should not have lifelong appointments. there's accountability in every single stage of government. i don't think the supreme court itself should somehow not have that accountability. i mean, we treat the supreme court like it's the jedi council. i don't know if that's an accurate analogy, i'm sure people will tweet at me later, but the idea you can do anything you want. like, when you are talking about this idea of bad optics. is it that optics if there's no accountability? they're seeing them do it. >> it comes at a time, where if you look at polling, popularity and trust in the supreme court is a

i found it interesting, they chairman of the judiciary committee, dick durbin, was aske d yesterday by meet the press, where -- if he had spoken to her, how she was doing. he said he had not spoken to her. it's only been chuck schumer that has spoken to her recently, so we do not know how she is doing right now. she will not resign. she asked fo >> he is getting treatment for clinical depression, we do not talk to him in the hallways because as it has been reported he needs closed captions to understand what he cannot decipher after he had a really horrible stroke during the campaign. he does have some sort of issues with normal communication without closed captions. trying to be sensitive to this of course. we try to shout questions at him in the hallways but it is difficult without the closed caption system. he is voting and he seems a great. he was excited to be back on capitol hill last week and gave the thumbs up, and then the pullover and we are seeing him in, so far it seems like he is back for good. let us hear from caller: it is more of a comet to the good people of all -- a c

joining me now to talk about this is the senate democratic whip dick durbin of illinois. he's also the chairman of the judiciary committee, senator. thanks for being with us, as always, let's begin with this federal judge in texas, halting the fda is more than two decades old approval of the drug. medford. crestone. what's your reaction to that? remember what they said about the dobbs decisions. what? we're gonna let each state decide the law on abortion as it relates to the residents of that state. now look what's happening. here comes the judge in texas who's decided that we were going to call into question the legitimacy and efficacy of a drug that's been on the market for 20 years, not just in the state of texas mind you but nationally, if he has his way, this has become headline issue which we returned to time and time again as republicans move closer to banning abortion across america. and vice president kamala harris is calling the texas ruling of the ruling out of texas a dangerous precedent. do you agree with that? and do you? do you worry about what is going to

they do, if there's any substance to it, i expect that the chairman of the judiciary committee dick durbin and the ranking member will assure they're fairly and appropriately treated. >> are you confident in the conduct of attorney general merrick garland when it comes to this case? >> i am. look president biden from the days he was campaigning to his first days as president made it clear that he thought restoring the independence of the department of justice removing any political influence for potential investigations was a core value that he brought to this service as president, and i'm confident that's in no small part why he chose a seasoned circuit court judge, someone with deep experience at doj. i am confident merrick garland has conducted himself appropriately here. >> cbs reported back in october that fbi gathered evidence sufficient enough to charge hunter biden with tax and gun related crimes, and sent it to the u.s. attorney in delaware. we know that in the coming days, mr. biden's attorneys are set to meet with the u.s. attorney in delaware. do you have any sense if this is c

senate judiciary committee chairman dick durbin tweeting that thomas's trips undermined the trust that our country places in the supreme court. and democratic senator sheldon white house is now calling on chief justice john roberts to look into this matter, requesting a robust investigation. take place andrew justin finch for us in washington. thank you. administration's review of the 2021 u. s withdrawal from afghanistan acknowledges the evacuation should have been handled differently. the review also lay some blame on the trump administration. the report says the president was severely constrained by trump's decisions and his team's lack of cooperation. president's transition team asked to see plans for that removal. they asked to see plans for a security transition. to the afghan government. and they asked to see plans to increase the processing of special immigrant visas. none were forthcoming. transitions matter was entirely predictable. we didn't constrain them at all. the administration has demonstrated their willingness to break up good plans that the trump administration had a

if you live in illinois, called dick durbin and say chaired the judiciary committee and don't invite john roberts over 40, pass a bill. -- over four t, pass a bill and that's how you will get actual scriptures on ethics assigned to these unaccountable people. host: let's hear from florida, democrats line. caller: good morning, can you hear me? it's just which is true post on twitter. i love you and i love when you comment. i just wanted to ask since you know so much about scotus, how do we make sure that this extremism majority does not happen again? i feel like we use our nominated judges or however we go about getting our scotus, i feel like people like gorsuch and kavanaugh have used it as a payback. how do we make sure that doesn't happen? do we do it with ethics with clarence and call our congress and our senators to hold them accountable? keep doing what you do. guest: thank you so much. my solution for extremism

meanwhile, dick durbin called for holding supreme court justices to an enforceable code of conduct and says his committee will act on this issue. but with republicans in control of the house, any potential investigations into thomas seem like they will stall in congress cori >> yeah, it could drag on for months looks like this is just beginning. thank you for your reporting >>> now to the stunning developments at the tennessee state capital. the republican majority in the state house seeking the expulsion of three democratic members after they participated in a gun safety protest. the two members who were ultimately expelled, justin jones and justin pearson are both black the effort to expel gloria johnson, who's white, failed by a single vote. our priscilla thompson is in nashville. >> reporter: outrage in nashville. in reaction to republican-led efforts to expel three democratic lawmakers from the state legislature. >> i declare justin jones of the 57th representative district expelled from the house of representatives of the 113th assembly of the state of tennessee. >> reporter: the

i hope that's what dick durbin has in mind.ings he can do you heard senator blumenthal say he thinks they should subpoena harlan crow and brian duffy. they could mark up any one of these bills, these ethics bills introduced dick durbin could have a hearing on the bill that was introduced today, bipartisan bill from lisa murkowski of alaska and angus king and introduce a new bill today. >> we will keep watching stay free between 4:00 and 6:00. >>> when we come back, the college board's announcement it is revising its ap course on african american studies it's what looks like a win for academic freedom and what looks like another defeat -- they are peeling up -- for florida governor ron doeesantis. there's reporting why they reversed the course. >>> the firing of tucker carlson isn't just a big topic in our country. it's big news in russia as well. he was a major amplifier of moscow's propaganda, especially when it came to the war in ukraine. we will take about that. we will be introduced to a russian dissident, a musician, who i

senate judiciary committee dick durbin tweeting that tho thomas' trips undermine the trust that our countryin the supreme court. >> linsey: terry moran joins us now from washington. news out of the suprem court tonight on another matter. the justices handing a win to a transgender girl in west virginia who wants to compete on her middle school track team. tell us about that decision. >> reporter: justice is declining to intervene, they let it play out in the lower courts and that came while the bike and a administrtion issued new regulations for youth transgender athletes under these proposed rules. schools and colleges would be forbidden from having outright bans on trans athletes, but schools could have team-specific eligibility requirements which could restrict trans athletes participations for reasons like fairness of competition and risk of injury, looking for middle ground, linsey, on a very divisive subject. >> linsey: major imprecations there, thank you. a new round of violent clashes in the middle east, palestinian worshipers barricading themselves inside a mosque in jerusalem, one

the chairman of the senate judiciary committee, senator dick durbin of illinois today, says the chiefjustice john roberts, is welcome to go under oath and go on the record about quote. justice is falling short of ethical standards. durban says the court now faces a crisis of confidence that after the new revelations about justice clarence thomas accepting and not reporting big gifts from a republican mega donor. this playing out as the court heads into overtime on a very significant major case, the justices put two more days on the calendar on the clock to consider medication abortion question that could have enormous impact on abortion access. a wednesday order from justice samuel alito issued with no explanation. will keep the drug mifepristone on shelves through friday. the court has until then to settle questions raised by lower court rulings about the fda s authority and about how or if women can get abortion inducing pills. the government warns an adverse decision could let judges substitute politics for cold, hard science and not just for bristol, but on drugs designed to cure

but dick durbin could investigate these things he has subpoena power.about this matter. that post report over the weekend, nicolle, that shell company that clarence thomas is still reporting income from, there's a lot of questions there. is that just a clerical error where he refused -- or mistakenly forgot to update the name of the llc on his disclosure forms or is that a shell company that other donors like harlan crow are using to funnel contributions to clarence thomas to influence him? he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt on that we should investigate that and dick durbin has that power >> let's have a really blunt conversation about those two men. they do have power they have a moral compass. they're good public servants brian fallon, let's start with merrick garland. if he won't impeach trump, who basically livestreams his crimes, what are the chances he opens an investigation into clarence thomas? >> yeah, you know, i would answer that question two ways, nicolle. one is there are appropriate grounds here for a federal investigation. the a

you heard from dick durbin on the issue of clearance thomas. on the senate side, the republican minority little mitch mcconnell asked about justice thomas at a news conference here is a portion of what he had to say. [video clip] >> do you have comments on the reports of the hospitality justice clarence thomas received and the judiciary committee, do they plan to hold a hearing on the ethical standards of the supreme court? sen. mcconnell: the supreme court and system as a whole separate part of our constitution. the democrats, it seems to me, spend a lot of time criticizing individual members of the court and going after the institution. for example, my counterpart went in front of the supreme court and called out two of the supreme court justices by name and threatened them with some kind of reprisal. i don't know what kind. if you ruled -- if they ruled the wrong way in a case he cared about. they were unconcerned with security issues in the homes of supreme court justices. i have confidence in the chief justices of the united states to deal

directly respond to alleged ethics lapses by justice clarence thomas, the senate judiciary chairman, dick durbin had asked roberts to testify to his committee following reports that thomas had taken multiple luxury trips at the invitation of a republican mega donor. well those trips were not disclosed on thomas's public financial filings. thomas contends that current ethics guidelines do not require such disclosures. instead chief justice roberts has referred the matter to the judicial conference, which serves as the policy making body of the federal courts. alright still ahead in sudan. three day ceasefire is in shambles as the death toll climbs. we'll hear what the u. s. is telling its citizens and staff still inside the country. we've got a live report straight ahead. they need a loan back fast, and you need scotts turf builder rapapid gras grasass two times f faster induy , the loan, givenen you a stronr laws. freedom a field a rapid grass today it's guaranteed long feed it important kitchen tool, my brain, so i choos new areva plus, unlike some others, areva plus is a multitasker suppoing s

dick durbin told us that. host: let's hear from joanne on the republican line. she is from florida.o ahead. caller: -- host: hello? we will give her one more chance . ok, jim in mississippi on the independent line. caller: i am reading the people interparty by mr. dixon, and -- and the party by mr. dixon. he says in china, approval ratings for local party officials are very low, but the approval ratings for the national congress are very high. it made me think about how in america, approval ratings for local congressmen are typically pretty high, but approval ratings for washington, d.c. are rather low. do you think that there is an advantage in either of those ways of looking at things, whether it is focusing on the local or national? guest: i cannot pretend to know why a local official may have a lower rating. it may be due to media attention. it could be a collective group on capitol hill that makes the decisions versus local officials. but it is incredibly interesting that national or federal lawmakers have high ratings. host: what are the major things to watch as far as the hou

the chair of the senate judiciary committee, dick durbin, says he will act on allegations that thomasnews outlet, says it has evidence that thomas, one of the court's staunchest conservative judges, was treated to trips on private jets and a mega yacht owned by a real estate magnate named harlan crow. in response, durbin said his committee will act based on the report, though he didn't say how. he added "the highest court in the land shouldn't " have the lowest ethical standards." mr crow is a republican who donates generously to right—wing causes. but in a statement, he said the hospitality was quote: . "no different from the hospitality we have extended to our many other dearfriends." he added that he and his wife "have never sought to influence justice thomas on any legal or political issue." and that "i would never invite anyone who i believe had any intention of doing that." "these are gatherings of friends." propublica says neither mr thomas, nor the supreme court responded their requests for comment live now to justin elliott, one of the propublica reporters on the story. he is

dick durbin said it will happen whether they participate or not. >>> jury selection is set to begin todayd boys conspiracy trial the defense finished up closing arguments yesterday with the attorneys for the right wing group placing blame squarely on former president donald trump. the five proud boys members on trial face at least nine counts including seditious conspiracy. >>> finally this morning the barbie dream house is becoming more inclusive mattel is introducing its first barbie with down syndrome. teaming up with the national down syndrome society, it was designed to promote down syndrome awareness including a necklace with three arrows representing the three copies of the chrome zone. this's it from here, frank back to you. >> thank you very much appreciate that. >>> ahead on "worldwide exchange," a call seat and a check on this morning's biggest calls by firms that you know and names that you likely know, why jeffries is turning shares of tesla. "worldwide exchange" aka w.e.x. will be right back sharpen your , you can stay on top of the market from wherever you are. power e*trad

within the last 24 hours, it looks like dick durbin is recalibrating here he has been holding off ones from the senate committee to the floor. he's decided to move forward tomorrow on advancing certain judges that have republican support. that's according to a judiciary committee spokesperson he said republicans have given assurances to advance certain nominees out of committee. only the judicial nominees of president biden with republican support can move apart from that, feinstein can either come back, resume voting to advance the rest of them, they can stay out and hinder the nominees or resign and get replaced by another senator who would be added to these committees >> thank you very much appreciate that. what recourse do democrats have? there's no indication at all that diane feinstein will step down she's not running for re-election. what do they do? >> there's very little that democrats can do maybe they can do some things procedurally there's an informal rule called blue slips which allow votes on members that are -- judges favored by members of their own states maybe someth

arne duncan under obama and senator dick durbin supported vallas.senator warren and bernie sanders coming out for bernard johnson. juan: brandon johnson. absolutely. this is a battle within the democratic party between progressives and the more conservative and centrist forces in the party. we will see now who is being able to reach the masses of the voter and turn them out and today's election. amy: we want to thank you, juan, for that briefing. we will ask you about what happens tomorrow. coming up, finland joins nato. stay with us. ♪♪ [music break] amy: "shelter" by vic mensa, chance the rapper, and wyclef jean. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. finland has probably joined nato today in a move that doubles nato's border. russia and finland share in 800 mile border. they joined a week after turkey's parliament voted to ratify its membership. turkey and hungary have yet to approve sweden as a member of nato but the turkish president has rejected sweden secession to nato after acc

has racked up support from bernie sanders and elizabeth warren while moderate paul vallas won dick durbin'sorsement and endorsed by chicago fraternal order of police. outgoing mayor, lori lightfoot, lost in first round of voting in march. >>> after the break, a rare bearish take on costco a look at why wells fargo is telling investors to lower their expectations on this one. >>> want to take a quick look at gold near the highs of the day the highest level in more than a year gold prices above 2,000. (vo) sail through the heart of historic cities and unforgettable scenery with viking. unpack once and get closer to iconic landmarks, local life and cultural treasures. because when you experience europe on a viking longship, you'll spend less time getting there and more time being there. viking. exploring the world in comfort. >>> welcome back a couple hours into trading, stocks just off session lows as we're down 225, holding 4100 let's get post to post with bob pisani. >> the jolts report had a bit of an impact on the market, particularly cyclical stocks i've been talking about caterpillar th

on tuesday, chief justice roberts turned down a request from judiciary committee chair senator dick durbin to testify on at an ethics hearing next week, offering instead a signed statement by the justices reaffirming a commitment to foundational ethics principles. durbin deemed the statement inadequate and said -- "it is time for congress to accept its responsibility to establish an enforceable code of ethics for the supreme court, the only agency of our government without it." graduate student teachers at the university of michigan have been on strike for the past month demanding fair wages, sexual harassment protections, and new provisions for campus safety, among other issues. in response to the strike, university of michigan's president moved to withhold worker salaries and sent police officers to intimidate strikers, resulting in one graduate worker being attacked by an officer. this is amir fleischmann of the graduate employees organization. >> over the past three years, we have seen a gap between our salaries and cost-of-living triple. this is something that is being felt by workers

senate majority whip dick durbin says biden has plenty of time to build up steam. >> it's about 19 months before there is an election. most people make their decision of the candidate 19 days before the election. so we're far in advance of any decision making. >> harris: peter doocy live at the white house. time also for others to get into the race like there is a kennedy who is running now. >> harris, the last biden campaign was all about trump and once again that's being floated by some top democrats as the main reason to back biden again. >> he is going to have an incredibly strong record to run on and he is a steady hand when you look at what is out there right now with donald trump and what we're hearing again. people don't want that chaos back again. >> "the new york times" editorial board is writing if he runs again mr. biden needs to provide assurance to voters, many have seen family members decline rapidly in their 80s. americans are watching what mr. biden says and does just as he asks them to do. several top white house officials have departed and expected to join a campaign in

and tonight we got the news from the senate judiciary chair, dick durbin, that chief justice roberts declined the committee's request the chief justice testify about the court's ethics issues because the justices are all supposedly policing themselves. and we see how well that is going. >>> coming up later this hour an update on the battle between florida governor ron desantis and the company that's designing a new ap course in african american studies for high school students >>> but first why donald trump may need to change his summer plans. that's next. ♪ ♪ i realize i'm no spring chicken. ♪ ♪ i know what's right for me. ♪ ♪ i've got a plan to which i'm sticking. ♪ ♪ my doc wrote me the script. ♪ ♪ box came by mail. ♪ ♪ showed up on friday. ♪ ♪ i screened with cologuard and did it my way! ♪ cologuard is a one-of-a kind way to screen for colon cancer that's effective and non-invasive. it's for people 45 plus at average risk, not high risk. false positive and negative results may occur. ask your provider for cologuard. ♪ (group) i did it my way! ♪ i'm jonathan lawson here to tell yo

there's no evidence thomas violated any rule or law, but senator dick durbin saying that the highest court in the land shouldn't have the lowest ethical standards. shannon bream joins us. good morning to you. back and forth on this yesterday. different views on it. how do you see it? how will it play out? >> the supreme court justices are a unique group of people in many ways, but including they don't have a federal they cans code like federal judges do. the if somebody claims a conflict of interest in a case they're hearing, only they can recuse themselves. by the way, the thomass are longtime friends, decades back, with harlan crow, with his family and friends, and have traveled together over the years. disclosure rules say if you have hospitality gifts, things like food and lodging at a friend's home, at a person's home, that's exempt in some ways from reporting. critics are pointing to issues about private jet travel, those kind of things, whether they have to report them. it's a very gray area. but it is mobilized talk again on capitol hill about finding a different way to crack

i'm sure the chief justice finds it ironic that a politician from illinois like dick durbin wants toiscuss ethics. the large issues remain, the court has been in the news for all the wrong reasons lately. ethics in the leak of a draft opinion, who writes the ethics rules for our high court and who enforces those rules the author of disarmed closet under constitutional attorney mark smith, thank you for joining us professor. our viewers are fully informed, are there rules governing gifts and outside incomes and travel for sipping court justices and who enforces those rules? >> the judicial conference overseen by chief justice john roberts does set forth guidelines and rules about disclosure involving gifts or travel and the like those roles have been signed off and are abided by all the nine justices as to who enforces those at the end of the day each justices really responsible for enforcing on him or herself keep in mind the u.s. supreme court is a creature of the constitution itself is created that article three of the united states constitution. there is no special position the ot

estate deal that again has all come under scrutiny and it's worth noting as well, jim, that senator dick durbin, who heads up the judiciary committee, had invited the chief justice, john roberts, to come testify and roe ro roberts declining yesterday. >> it was notable. seemed to frame it as a separation of powers issue. we'll see where this effort goes on the hill. thanks so much. boris? >> testimony is underway now in the civil battery and defamation trial against donald trump. today, eugene carol took the stand and described to jurors in chilling detail the alleged sexual assault by the former president. she alleges that trump raped her in a dressing room in a new york department store in 1996 then defamed her when she went public with the allegations. let's go to new york to cara. she's saying this isn't just about what happened in 1996 but then what she has endured for decades. >> reporter: yeah, boris. that's right. she has been on the stand for more than two hours today really taking up much of the day telling her version of the events. she described the graphic rape that occurred in the

propublica's questions as well in a statement yesterday, however, senate judiciary committee chairman dick durbin, quote, the highest court in the land shouldn't have the lowest ethical standards adding, quote, this behavior is simply inconsistent with the ethical standards the american people expect of any public servant let alone a justice on the supreme court. the supreme court has refused to immediately reinstate a west virginia law barring transgender athletes from playing on female sports teams that law affected kids from middle school through college. the 2021 law defines eligibility for certain sex specific teams to, quote, be based solely on the individual's reproductive biology and genetics at birth. the law has largely been on hold since its passage as it grows through the appeals process. 12-year-old transgender student becky jackson had challenged the law in an effort to remain on her middle schoolgirl's cross-country and track teams. her awareness issue has been recognized by teammates and coaches. thursday's actions puts a lower court order putting a hold remains in place while the

senator dick durbin, the chair of the senate judiciary committee sent a letter to chief justice johnerts inviting him to testify regarding supreme court ethics reform. justice clarence thomas has sparked controversy over various complaints about his personal ties and relationships the last time the congressional committee heard testimony from sitting justices was october 2011 >>> overseas a group of angry demonstrators briefly invaded the paris euro next building they insist big companies must finance pensions after president emmanuel macron raised the retirement age by two years. recent protests targeted french luxury good targets lvmh and black rock >>> nato secretary-general stoltenberg made a surprise visit to ukraine for the first time since russia's invasion and pledged to continue military support for ukraine and president zelenskyy told the nato chief it's time for the alliance to offer ukraine full membership in the united nations. scott? >> contessa brewer, thank you. >>> an update on a story we brought you earlier on the semis. kristina partsinevelos is back at post 9. it'

. >> and the senate judiciary chairman, dick durbin, had this to say about roberts declining the invitationisten to him talk about. >> the supreme court of the united states is the only court, maybe the only federal agency that doesn't have an enforceable code of ethics. what we received yesterday was not just a letter saying, i respectfully decline the invitation, but what appeared to be a defense of the status quo of the current system, whatever it is, in the supreme court is inadequate. >> what do you think? is the supreme court capable of policing itself? >> well, the key word in senator durbin's remarks was "enforceable" code of ethics. >> yeah. >> every ethics authority -- and i administered these ethics laws for the white house. every ethics authority needs to have some kind of independent review. they need to have transparency, and they need to have accountability if they go awry. i meant it can't be that one governmental body, one judicial body in all the land, that if a justice thomas takes hundreds of thousands of dollars in undisclosed luxury travel gifts, jim, that he decides i

dick durbin wants to call chief justice john roberts to come up to the hill for supreme court ethicsustice thomas, and another is saying he shouldn't do it, it would be a circus. how unprecedented is it to call a supreme court justice to a committee? >> very. the only times we see members go up to the hill maybe once a year when there's a fight over funding. congress funds the judiciary branch so obviously they have to go up there and make their case for what they need. but you two know capitol hill back and forth better than anything, without dianne feinstein because of her absence, they're deadlocked. even if durbin wanted to, he wouldn't be able to do it. and there are continuing conversations whether or not they're trying to impose an ethics code on the supreme court. as you know, they don't have one in the same way that federal judges do, it's now a point of contention and very partisan at this point. and see how it goes. aishah: let's pivot to your new book and we're so excited about it. and i think that relationships are one of god's greatest gifts. the they're hard, whether i

chairman dick durbin had asked him to appear. gorsuch and thomas have been in the news lately.ho may have business with the court and thomas on vacations paid for by a friend. roberts said testifying would conflict with the court's independence and the judiciary is independent, its own branch of government, one of three. but an equally important principle, and let's just get back to that, there we go, an equally important principle is this one, the checks and balances. that one branch gets to keep a watch on the other two branches. supreme court justices do testify before congress. here is breyer and scalia talking to the senate in 2011 about judicial ethics. it's not far from the supreme court to the senate, they just have to cross the street to testify. it would be really great to tell you the name of the street is constitution. it's actually on the north side. it's 1st street. >> good to see. thanks so much, scott. >>> for many high school graduates college decision day is right around the corner. seniors are getting ready to make the big choice about where they will attend

judiciary chairman dick durbin had asked roberts to appear. we have learned that justice alito sold a share of his vacation home to a lawyer who often has business before the court, and justice thomas has been going on expensive private jet vacations with a billionaire. roberts in his refusal said testimony before the senate judiciary committee of the united states is exceedingly rare, as one might expect in light of separation of powers and concerns of the importance of preserving judicial independence. now, the judiciary is independent, it is its own branch of government. it's one of three. but an equally important principle is that one, checks and balances. the one branch gets to keep watch over the other two branches. supreme court justices do testify before congress. here is scalia talking to the senate in 2011 about judicial ethics. it's not far from the supreme court to the senate. you just have to cross the street. >> there you have it. thanks, scott. >>> well, this morning for many high school graduates, college decision day is right

supreme court senate judiciary committee chair dick durbin asked chief justice john roberts to testifycongress in early may about potential ethics reforms and rules for justices so far, the supreme court has declined to comment on that request. this follows reports by p propublica that justice clarence thomas didn't disclose gifts given to him he did not disclose the sale of properties from thomas' family to crow. with us now to talk more about this, nbc news capitol hill correspondent ali vitali and a former federal and state prosecutor in new york as well as a former clerk for the justice sandra day o'connor, now msnbc little analyst what is the leaikelihood that chief justice will appear before the senate judiciary committee >> unclear at this point, jose we know from talking to chairman durbin yesterday, at that point he had not yet heard back from the chief justice, though you would expect potentially the reaction from republicans to be what it has been in the last few days, many of them suggesting that this is a bad idea for the chief justice to come in and testify. here is senat

and dick durbin has already stated it's really impossible in the committee, and the republicans, i'mheir reaction, but they play the hardest hardball the meanest hardball so i'm very concerned about the situation. >> right i mean, the reporting, there are two pieces of reporting that are disturbing piece number one, reporting from politico that dianne feinstein might never return she might stay in california the second piece is the demands that we're seeing from republicans, they're saying, ha, we've got her. you know mitch mcconnell's whole dream is to control all of the federal courts if they can they're now hinting they would demand kyrsten sinema be the replacement. she's called her colleagues old jell-o eating old men. she's been disdainful of the party, they're saying that's the only person they would accept and there has to be a full vote of the senate to replace her on the committee. the republicans literally can stop the replacement unless they get everything they want there doesn't seem to be a rationale for her to do anything other than resign the seat and allow the govern

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that's why, you know, congress, dick durbin being to chief justice john roberts and asking for transparency>> was ignored. joan, thanks very, very much for that reporting. >> yeah, it will be interesting to see what capitol hill says about that. >>> something that is reverberating in capitol hill, tucker carlson is out at fox news. the network saying we thank him for his service as a host and prior to that as a contributor. that was it. the surprise announcement a week after fox news settled a defamation lawsuit with dominion voting systems for three-quarters of $1 billion. that late reveals texts between carlson and staffers where he said he hated former president trump despite saying other things on air. texts also showing him making disparaging comments about fox executives. joining us is cnn senior media reporter oliver darcy and cnn political commentate a jenna goldberg who left fox news after being there for 12 years when carlson said that january 6th was a false flag operation. thank you for being here. i think the question this morning that even vuker may be asking himself, is why?

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