i think you told a story about dick gephardt and the chaplain and you never were quite the same again. what`s the story? >> guest: well, you know, one of the things -- first things when i first became speaker -- the story is trust in this place that the only thing -- the only commodity that you have to sell, the only ability for you to work with people is your word, your bond and trust that people have in you. if people lose that trust, then it`s very difficult to get anything done. it`s almost impossible to be a leader. and my situation, when i first became speaker, i knew that newt had a good -- a difficult time. i mean, he spent a lot of his time before he was in leadership, you know, bringing down jim wright. i mean, that was just the legacy that he inherited, that he, you know, had. and so there were a lot of democrats that just didn`t like him. i figured when i became speaker, i`d try to reach across the aisle. even in my acceptance speech, i said, you know, i`m willing to go halfway, in some cases more than halfway. but you have to go halfway, too and i was willing to reach acr