so from-- where did the musical, you know, concept come from, if you're motivated by dick gregory? dick gregory was a speaker. he was a man who organized movements. why did you do it through music? well, my earliest recollection of music is always in my household. my mother listened to motown, stax, atlantic, from roberta flack, aretha franklin, stevie wonder, you know. "chuck, do your chores." and you've got music playing, just, you know, seeping into your bloodstream and ear stream. and my father liked jazz here and there. but i was mainly into sports. i was into the organization of sports, and a lot of black folks made strong inroads into sports, and that captivated my interests. and the whole hip-hop thing that hit me in the middle of the 1970s got me into the music, because it was the technical aspect of it. technology. two turntables, a mixer, a microphone. i was totally confused. i was like, "why do they need two turntables? in case the one over there breaks down?" [laughter] "this person is very prepared." but that struck me as being, you know, something to get involved wit