dick harpootlian you can bet will point out every single one of them, and that's the first one he hasted out. >> sandra: you are on the screen top left there, disgraced attorney, 54 years old, accused of shooting his wife maggie, 52, younger son paul, 22 years old, all happening at their sprawling hunting lodge, supposedly to gain sympathy and distract away from his damning financial crimes. we have learned a lot and seen a lot of twists and turns in all of this, but what we just heard play out, lori, was the first time we have all taken in that 911 phone call, i believe it was june 7, 2021, when murdaugh himself called 911 to report that his wife maggie and son paul had been shot in the rural hamlet, 65 miles west of charleston. this is the defense attorney, cf3, focusing on the idea of the arriving officers that they may have destroyed the evidence. i want to ask you how big this is, lori, listen. >> so if somebody had come in and left who committed the murders, whatever tire tracks that were left were obliterated by your men. >> that's possible. >> you have a flashlight and you wer

. >>> ladies and gentlemen of the jury, my name is dick harpootlian. i think i introduced myself to you all in our attorneys the three other attorneys jim griffin, phillip bar, margaret fox, it is our honor to represent alex murdaugh. depending how you pronounce it. i say it's our honor because i submit to you what you have heard from attorney general as facts are not. are not. his there's, his conjecture. alec stand up. this is alex murdaugh. and alec was the loving father of paul and the loving husband of maggie. you're not going to hear a single witness say that their relationship, maggie and alec's relationship was anything other than loving, you'll hear about how they went to a baseball game weekend before, you'll hear about their relationship, you'll see texts and e-mails indicating a loving relationship. paul, the apple of his eye, you'll see a video somewhere between 7:30 and 8:00 the night of the murders, paul and alec riding around looking at trees they planted to snapchat. paul sent to other people because the trees were not planted very wel

the defense led by dick harpootlian is trying to poke holes in sergeant green's testimony. is he doing so far? >> look, this trial has something for both sides. look, the defense has really i think done a pretty good job so far with the witnesses that they have been able to question. they are starting to poke holes, one by one, in the prosecution's theory. and we are starting to see some themes. one of the themes is look, this was just a botched crime scene. for example, they are pointing out the tire tracks may not have been preserved by the responding officer. pointing out that somebody else could have done it and also saying, john, that the police were rushed to judgment, that they have tunnel vision, zeroed in on this defendant and only this defendant and built a case and that assumption. so we are starting to see themes. these themes have a way of growing into arguments of reasonable doubt. all you have to have is one juror who has a hang-up about one of the pieces of evidence and has a reasonable doubt and that's at a minimum a hung jury. so the defense is not going t

during cross examination, defense attorney dick harpootlian proposed a different theory. >> is it a possibilitythere are two shooters, based on the data you collected? >> i indicated -- >> moving from here all the way up to here? >> i don't know that it went all the way up there. >> and he also said some of the footprints belonged to a responding officer who marked the location of paul murdaugh's body. but a witness said ammunition was consistent with the ammunition used to kill maggie. >> do you know a specific brand and make and caliber of ammunition that was used to kill maggie murdaugh? >> head stamps was s and b300. >> same thing? >> yes, sir. >> if convicted, murdaugh could face 30 years to life in prison without parole. john. >> john: we'll keep watching that trial and see what unfolds later today. jonathan, thank you. much more coming up on the next hour as well. >> sandra: fresh perspective and analysis from nancy grace, and a lot of the viewers have taken interest in watching the trial, john, and very emotional at times so we are going to keep our eye on that throughout the afternoon

. >> john: and the attorney that he's got representing him, dick harpootlian is known for some pretty impressive courtroom gymnastics, so we'll see as the trial goes on how he tries to get witnesses to say things that they don't want to say or take the trial in a different direction. he is the sort of guy -- if you are charged with murdering somebody, he's the guy you want in your corner, but it's such a bizarre and many-headed snake all of this, we'll see which way it goes. >> sandra: we are also watching this. the national archives reportedly asking former presidents and vice presidents to start searching their own records for classified documents, mike pence will speak on it next hour, exclusive interview with r rich edson. >> john: gas prices ticking up, does the biden administration have a plan to keep it. >> people want affordable energy, available energy, reliable energy and joe biden basically has lit dynamite under the american energy industry the day he came into office. get ready for a shock. the rate on credit cards is now over 22%. if you want to save hundreds of dollars