president bush, to his everlasting credit, did and pushed to do, and with the support of leaders like dick lugar, who was able to accomplish things. it was a positive step. i agree, that was not the place for a syrian statement. i don't know what the syrian statement is, quite frankly, in berlin or anywhere else. >> when does the president assure his allies that we are not spying on them? >> to do it publicly -- >> don't worry about it. >> when i was in germany, we learned that the french had an agent inside the american embassy in and bonn and had had him there for 20 years. we do things to each other. but we don't talk about them publicly. now, he had to say something. the world had heard the story, so we had to say something. >> it is an unhappy twist of fate that in a country that was famous for spying on all of its citizens in daily life, a country that would be particularly sensitive about this, that is where he goes and where all of his meetings are, and that he would be forced, in some sense, to deal with this issue there. do i think the germans do the same thing? absolutely. do i think