>> there is actually a great twitter account as someone who poses as nixon, dick nixon. he does a good job of capturing his voice. what we see in that account as historians and what he would do, nixon would have, i think, some -- fighter instinct that we see in trump, but he would be more restrained. nixon was careful about what he said so we have all of these examples of nixon flying off the handle and using colorful language, attacking opponents. it's behind the scenes. instead, with trump it's all right out there in the public sphere. >> if you could go back to the 1990s, start of social media, do you think the pioneers of, you know, social media and technology really understood where >> no, i don't think so. i don't think they thought about it that much. there is a real movement in the mid-1990s where they see the internet is going to be this free and open space and self-regulate, self-govern. it won't impact the real world. it will be a separate -- a separate place. i don't think they saw the real impact it would have on day-to-day life, the way in which it would sha

but dick nixon understood the constitution. he understood the world.e understood that the world would be a better place only if america were as strong as it withd to be, to deal freedom that had implications, if not immediately, pretty clear implications for the future of freedom everywhere. nation, andy, no certainly not after world war ii , was close to being a superpower. let the united states was, not just militarily, but economically. and in terms of, for his example of letting free market economies , become a model for other nations. he took america very seriously. he made that clear, i think, very early on. he was a serious young man in congress. and it was not just because he achieved instant, deserved fame pressure that produced the alger hiss revelations, but he was someone to be respected because he had high ambitions, not just for himself, but for this nation. the kitchen debate with khrushchev made that clear. dr. gannon: you knew both the nixons, president and mrs. nixon or nixon and mrs. nixon. in, asades, beginning you say, in 1962. to

but dick nixon understood the constitution. he understood the world. he understood the place -- the world would be a better place only if america were as strong as it needed to be to deal with threats, that freedom had implications -- if not immediately, pretty clear implications for the future, and -- that the one united states was closing to be -- close to being a superpower. and not just militarily, but by being the example of letting free-market economies prosper. and to become a model for other nations. america very seriously. think, that clear, i very early on. he was a serious young man in congress. it was not just because he achieved instant, deserved fame from the pressure that produced the outer hiss revelations -- alger hiss revelations, but he was someone to be respected high ambitions, not just for himself, but for this nation. the kitchen debate with khrushchev made that clear. knew both: you nixons, president and mrs. nixon or nixon and mrs. nixon. do you remember the first time you met him and/or the last time you met him, the less time

you didn't have that with dick nixon. he had carried 49 states.ngs change in national politics. my friend and hero, george bush 41 was at 91% favorable rating in december of 1991. pat buchanan won 30 something% of the vote in the new hampshire primary two months later. and that was the beginning of the end for my friend bush 41. so things do shift around. and you know, it's not my job to carry it to republican voters. i don't mind citing the 1,000 federal prosecutors and saying that i know what they're talking about because i do. but beyond that, if people won't be persuaded, they won't be persuaded. >> it seems in the reporting that democratic leadership in the house are worried about those swing voters in districts that congressional districts that were formerly republican, people who voted for a republican member of congress but there last time voted for a democrat. they're worrying about alienating them. you would be trying to appeal to exactly the same voter. holding the position that there should be an impeachment inquiry. what does that do

and grounds removal from office, is way past what dick nixon did.terms of illegality. >> how much are you talking about impeachment? i tell them i'm an economic conservative. i was the most fiscally conservative governor in the united states, as a republican in massachusetts. i believe that climate change is real and not a hoax. there's a lot of differences between me and donald trump. i say, we're two, big, orange men with nothing in common. >> what does your home look like? what does the party look like today? when you look at the edifice, how changed is it? >> i think the nicest thing that can be said, is what john boehner said earlier in the week. he was asked about the republican party. he said the republican party is taking a nap. >> when you look at your beliefs, are they more aligned with some members of the democratic party? where you stand gun policy, for example. there's other things that would be in the other house. >> i would be to the right on spending and education, probably on guns, as well. certainly on social issues. i was out ther

wittier, california, which is the home of none other than richard nixon, as you can see in this welcome home dick pic. richard nixon was the last president to be impeached by a witch hunt. at this point you're probably saying big deal, these are a bunch of random connections. i still haven't shown you what president trump would call the smocking gun. the father in the movie "hocus-pocus" is played by charles rocket, who is a cast member on "saturday night live," a show that regularly attacks donald trump, a show going into its 45th season, number 45. hmm. which president is donald trump? number 45. ♪ [ applause ] are you with me on this? >> yes. >> jimmy: now, wait, there's about a half hour more. charles rocket was also in the movie "murder at 1600", which is about a president who covers up his son's illegal activities. that film stars wesley snipes. what happens to wesley snipes after that movie? he went to prison! because of what? his tax returns! it's a bombshell. i haven't told you the character played in hocus-pocus. david denison. it's the alias donald trump used to pay off the porn star,

there is this overlap between nixon, tricky dick, as his enemies call him, and this guy. ump, if he did tell mcgahn to fire mueller, it's what nixon did on the saturday night massacre. same thing. >> absolutely. >> it's called obstruction of justice. >> correct. and, remember, knicksen was nam nixon was named an unindicted coconspirator. remember that. the case that mueller's made. of course he didn't draw a line and come up with a total. he said i can't draw a conclusion, but the facts repeat almost exactly what nixon was doing. i wrote a book, "the case for impeaching trump," and i point out those examples. it's not only the firing -- trying to fire the special prosecutor. and he didn't do that only once. it's also trying to -- >> did he go back and try it again when mcgahn didn't follow through or what happened? >> yes, of course. he went to lewandowski and said, lewandowski, you got to tell sessions he's got to take over this investigation. >> then what happened? >> well, lewandowski didn't follow through, so, you know. >> the one difference is that nixon kept firing p

dick cavett show, you could get people like norman mailer and woody allen. >> my only new year's resolution this year, i think i'm going to try to sleep through the nixon administrationu would have heavyweight boxers. there were conversations. >> when you mentioned the national anthem and talk about playing it in any unorthodox way, you immediately get a guaranteed percentage of hate mail from people who say how dare -- >> that's not unorthodox. >> it isn't unorthodox? >> no, no. i thought it was beautiful. there you go. [ applause ] >> i just thought anything that is interesting ought to have a place on a talk show rather than young pretty actresses who use the word "excited" in every sentence. >> you're not frequently seen on television. is that by choice? >> well, of course, it is the most impressive medium of all. it's the medium that's going to either save america or send it down into demise. there's no question about it. >> i'm getting out of it myself. >> really? >> we'll be back after this. >> what you do is book the best possible guests from different kinds of businesses, maybe not everybody in show business. some politics, some newspaper people. get them al