. >> on the "dick van dyke show" we could believe the actions of the characters because we could relateem. this wasn't a genie in a bikini in someone's bottle on their mantle. these were real people. >> women are more -- more -- >> honest and direct. >> no. they're more -- >> courageous? >> we all have the same needs, feelings, relationships with husbands and wives. that's the comedy we did, the problems of living. >> how much do you like that baby? >> don't tell me you are jealous already. >> the season opening episode for the 1963 season was seared into my head. >> our wives had a baby on the same day and the hospital was very busy. what am i getting at? >> they thought they got the wrong baby from the hospital. so he calls the parents of the other kid and thinks you know, we may have your kid and you may have our kid. >> hi, we're mr. and mrs. peters. >> come in. >> mrs. peters, won't you come in? >> it was beautiful. absolutely beautiful. here they're tackling a subject without tackling it. >> why didn't you tell me on the phone. >> miss the expression on your face? >> the network w

dick van dyke show where they slept in separated beds. what a difference. gosh. my >> what you just described. mass media and playing off said, it wasn't just young people said i want authentic, i want something more genuine. used the phrase, they wanted risk in their lives, but they their lives.y in so the '60s is a political a cultural there's period of rebellion. when those two hit each other, that t big changes challenge people right where they live in the living rooms and dining rooms and as you said, in their bedrooms. a challenge is the rise of drug use in this time period? >> continuing what you said when people saying, all right, so mom and dad can have a martinis at night and maybe mom taking a sleeping pill something to wake up for his job. y,y can't we do this drug, x, z, marijuana, lsd, the other ha genics.a it's revolutionary. the '60s kids challenging so parts of everyday life challenged the limits on consumption, why not marijuana, why not lsd? would add to that, consider panoply of drugs that they were given by student help examination time, for

in the 1960's, the "dick van dyke show" where they slept in separate beds, and now you turn on television today. what a difference. >> oh, my gosh, right. and what you just described, which was in some ways let's face it a kind of hypocrisy about what it was. that happened between men and women it relies in which television and the mass media mask so much about what real-life was about, and going off what allison said, so maybe when the 1950's, and it was not just young people, said i want something more authentic. i want something more genuine. they wanted risking their lives, but they also wanted -- the 1960's is a political period but also a cultural period of rebellion, and so when those to hit each other, you got a challenge where people lived, and their dining room, living room, and like you said, their bedrooms. >> what about the rise of drug use in this period? >> mom and dad can have a couple of martinis that night and maybe mom takes a sleeping pill to go to sleep or dad takes benzedrine to wake up for his job. why can't we also then take a drug, x, y, z, marijuana, lsd, it was

and mary tyler moore and dick van dyke.our identity just in case the show didn't work. >> jimmy: there might be some wisdom to changing your identity if the show didn't work. but i'll tell you another thing i noticed last night, the late suzanne plashette that played your wife on the show, she was just so good. everybody was good, but she was especially great. [ cheers and applause ] just attractive in every way and so funny. >> she was a special lady, yeah. we lost her a couple of years ago, but she was marvelous. >> jimmy: she provided the ending to your other series, which i maintain is the greatest ending of any show, when you woke up from the dream. >> well, actually, that was my wife. my wife jenny. we've been married 51 years. that was her idea to end the show like that. >> jimmy: was it really her idea? wow. >> and some people think of it as maybe the greatest. she also has, and she's come up with some other ideas, which didn't work out nearly as well. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: oh, is that right? >> yeah, we were trave