the ceo of janus is dick weill. dick used to be the coo of pimco. that's the relationship and where it came from. dick weill left pimco because of another problem, talk about a lot of infighting at pimco. dick weill didn't get along with who the ceo of pimco used to be, bill thompson. he left the company when mohammed alarian got there. what i think has happened here is the relationship between dick weill and bill gross is the reason that we are seeing him back now at janus. let me see if i can't get this back in my ear. i apologize. i can't speak -- i should say, i can't speak to whether he was pushed or left on his own volition. i can say this. a number of people very close to pimco had no idea. this is shocking and surprising everyone, not just in the markets, but people literally in the room. that unto itself is surprising. i whether he is gone and this is a surprise to them this morning. we will continue to find out what's going on. it is really the relationship between so many people inside pimco and all the different infighting and troubles b