and we thought what a great addition to this program to have dick wesley talk about that. so with that, here he is, judge richard wesley. [ applause ] >> my presence here tonight is the result of a conversation that i had with albert about four months ago when he was telling me about coming and talking about lincoln and i got all excited about it, because i think most of us who end up judging become somewhat interested in history, because we're always taken into the historic context of the cases or the cases that we look to for guidance. so i got to immediately said to al, that's an interesting thing, because when i was involved with padilla versus rumsfeld, argued in october of 2003, one of the first cases in the united states to begin to examine the president's war powers and the joint resolution for the authorization for the use of force of september 15, 2001, i started babbling on about merriman and milligan. and al says this is great, you'll be terrific. you can do the final close and do it with no notes, because i was just rambling on. well, like john walker and like

i think it's a quality that is wondrous, and one that has so endeared dick wesley to us. it's the kind of judging that we really do appreciate, and i think the public does as well. so fast forward, many years later. judge wesley is now in the second circuit, and writing a decision that involves one of the very subjects we are dealing with here tonight. and he writes a decision talking about ex parti merriman and milligan. and we thought what a great addition to this program to have him talk about that. so with that, here he is. judge richard wesley. [ applause ] >> my presence here tonight is the result of a conversation that i had with albert about four months ago when he was telling me about halzer coming and talking about lincoln and i got all excited about it, because i think most of us who end up judging become somewhat interested in history because we are always taken into the historic context of the cases or the cases that we look to for guidance. and so i got to immediately said to al, jeez, al, that's an interesting thing because when i was involved with padilla v

well rand was on the list that tony blair said dick cheney had that wesley clark said the pentagon had a decade back it's been on the list of the project for the new american century and the neo cons in this country it's been a target since the one nine hundred fifty s. and since the revolution in the late one nine hundred seventy s. it is not at all new that iran is the target but we have successfully persuaded the american public that it would be another iraq that we were being lied to for many years now and this campaign to get us into iran again has failed you public relations terms for several years now we have to keep up that campaign david swanson author of war as a lie joining us from charlottesville virginia thanks so much. well we sort of tune in in thirty minutes you're not going to want to miss this one occupy the prison system from oakland to new york and our nation's capital to chicago protesters rallied outside of prisons to shed light on inhumane treatment and injustice inmates in ohio actually went on a hunger strike to bring awareness to the issue and coming up at eig

say this is just sort of more of the same well iran was on the list that tony blair said dick cheney had that wesley clark said the pentagon had a decade back it's been on the list of the project for the new american century and the neo cons in this country it's been a target since the one nine hundred fifty s. and since the revolution in the late one nine hundred seventy s. it is not at all new that iran is a target but we have successfully persuaded the american public that it would be another iraq that we were being lied to for many years now and this campaign to get us into iran again has failed in public relations terms for several years now all right we have to keep up that campaign david swanson author of war as a lie joining us from charlottesville virginia thanks so much. all right well for now that's going to do it but be sure to tune into the big picture it's coming up in just a half hour tonight host tom hartman will tell you what to do if you're arrested and in need of a good bail bondsman for more on the stories that we covered go to our team dot com slash usa or youtube dot com slash