when chairman dick wiley got into this and focused on hdtv, you could have never ever envisioned theay spectrum is being used today on a smart phone, you would not have envisioned wifi, this stuff that is now emerging as an alternate use wasn't there so the tv transition was tv centric, all about just tv. it was just analog to digital tv. there was no notion that there was another thing in the equation. not only until more recently and the government now is looking at getting spectrum back because there's a higher and better use. that's a newer transition, and it's hard for broadcasters to swallow. you know, they are trying to work through it, they want to be a part of the digital age too, so that's going to be hard, and for no other reason, it's complex and politically motives; right? somebody's ox might get gored. change does that. >> host: two more questions with regard to spectrum management. one is net neutrality, an issue that's been around for awhile now. you have said at this show, and this was a quote to an interview with broadcasting and cable that net neutrality will becom