when it came to dickenson he said i can't read the little bitty poems. i don't want to bother with that. there are a few throwbacks. harriet beecher stowe entered as a best seller and a pulp fiction writer. someone who wrote very important fiction and huge historical impact but not as an artist. one thing i tried to do in my book is to contest that attitude. we don't have an american jane austen or woman novelist with the same status. that has to be challenged. we have to say all these women writers producing artistically significant work who never got the attention they deserve. we need to dismantle this. if you read reviews in england they won't be quite the same balance there is in american and there are a lot more venues for book reviewing and great britain than the united states and a lot more different voices in each publication and they are dwindling. >> two questions related to what you mentioned. first one is when you said it is written by a female author it is friendly but by mela their -- can that be attributable to gender discrimination? just

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independence in the continental congress only days before the actual declaration of independence, john dickenson of philadelphia authored the olive branch petition to the king pledging our loyalty, american loyalty to the king, love of the king, love of being british subjects. and simply asking for him to control the parliament and let us raise our own taxes and keep parliament out of our business. had he accepted the olive branch petition, we'd probably have become a member of the british commonwealth. so there was tremendous amount of loyalty, and even loyalist forces, there was a major battle that's off not mentioned -- often not mentioned, and i don't know whether this is prejudice or what, but a major battle at moor's creek, north carolina, not far from wilmington. a british fleet was going to land soldiers at wilmington, and a loyalist army had formed inland and was marching towards the coast to join up with the british regulars. a force were rebels, but what we call patriots intercepted them and massacred them at moor's creek which is, there was a blind gulch where the rebels were waiting

panelists include mary matalin and amy dickenson. it is an hour and 15 minutes. >> i will introduce the panel. amy dickinson is the author of a bestselling memoir. it is syndicated. test 22 million liters a day. his oslo traveling on npr's which we do not tell me. her voice with the answer machine. she is a political consultant. she has this. and that he had a lot of stories to tell. she is in various documentary's. she is a communist. is a political analyst for the fox news channel. is also a stand-up comedian. as a possible to give a quick one? >> it is a lot louder. it is me after drinking. [laughter] >> i think this is a great topic. after a while we will have time for questions. let me throw out a job wrote to all of you -- -- jump rope to all of you -- if you want to learn, and get the information and get the details, outside of the people you work for, do you turn to to get an informed opinion that you respect and trust? >> i will start because i am at the end. i have npr on all the time. that is sort of natural. [applause] i

dickenson. what would you write if you could write a simple pamphlet right now, similar to mr. pain e's, "common sense." what would you call it? would you consider peggy noonan a writer or a rhetoricist? >> well, what a question. beautifule's a writer. that is why i read her. she is a thinker. i do not always agree with her thesis, but i really do love to read her work. thank you. that is a great question about pamphlet, and i got to think about that. beautyessence of the pd o of paine is common sense. the essence of a virtuous society, which is what the founders or striving for and about which they were mildly concerned, that we would not be educated enough, participatory and off, moral and ethical, and reasonable enough, and applied common-sense across the same spir -- across these things. teenagers are having babies, we have 35-year-old grandmothers. we could all and there is a good thought exercise. >> yes, sir. >> one of the reasons of listen this is a for instance, when there is an issue about health care, and who is going to provide for it, and then you break for commerc