. >> leading the team was mark dickenson. they dive deep into the data. >> we have messages from the ground station to the plane and back again. that essentially tells you the terminal is switched on and powered up. we have some time nflgs. and in addition to that, we have some frequency measurements. >> you can't go faster than the plane can travel. >> they then factored in the frequency differences. the so-called doppler effect. dickenson's team included mh 370 had to have flown south. in the opposite direction. it was a startling conclusion. what did you think when you got the data, you started the modelling, you put it in and you suddenly realize where this plane probably went. >> let's check this. and let's check it again. you want to make sure when you come to a conclusion like that that you've done the right work. the data is as you understand it today. >> was there a moment of disbelief? >> having messages six hours after the plane is lost is probably the biggest disbelief in terms of what you have. >> the analysis of

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