when didou start that part of the prram? >> about five years into starting the business, we set upup a pension and p profit-sharing plan. >> what led you to that? did you see otherusinesses doing it? >> when i i first target, i did not have a business for myself so i wked wh another moving d storage company. i cannot underand why some of these guy, 70, 75 5 year old were still moving furniture.. i we home and my father explaineit t m me. they had to continue working until life was over. i thought toyself tt was no way to live. as soon as we got to profitabability, we put the profit sharing into effect. >> a lot of nice guys are nning businesses simply y they cannoafford it. how do you makake a profit and still alallow the employees t to share in that profit? >> we run it as a true partnership. everne hasas a vested interesest in the comny a the customer. en youou focus in on the customomer and the emploloyees, the ofits come. >> what did you do wrong that others could learnrom? >> i made a lot of mistakes. not paying attenti

. >> h didou acquire it, where d itome om. >> it came from the carrie welch collection. a great pioneer in our field, he was sheila's professor at harvard and i was a-- later student of his. he was very influenced us all in our love and understanding of this material. and he also had a great private collection which recently went on sale after he passed away last year. so anyway, we were able to make a couple of extraordinary acquisitions at this sale and this is one of them. it's a dagger, the hilt is composed of a sort of interlocked animals in a kind of hunting motif. you have a dragon attack a feline attacking a deer and a bird way tiny snake in its mouth and all beautifully designed, it balances in your hand wonderfulfully and looks perfectly matched at the bottom. the blade is amazing but the iconnography of those figures is also fascinating because in the late 16th century, the decan being the south central part of india where this dagger wasmade, you had the coming together of influences from iran, turkey, europe and then the great indiana tradition of great an p