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and i thought it was interesting line in the telegraph as digby was saying and the i had said thatjeremyt what of nadhim zahawi? according to the telegraph, he is indicated he would not endorse any of his former rivals so what do you make of that? i think it's very difficult because nadhim zahawi it only been chancellor for aerobic nadhim zahawi it only been chancellorfor aerobic and i nadhim zahawi it only been chancellor for aerobic and i think to some extent his credibility has been a little bit diminish for this contest partly because of the way it began when he initially tried to nw up began when he initially tried to prop up borisjohnson taking on the unfilled role that was left by rishi sunak and then lesson 24 hours later calling on the premise or to resign. there have obviously been a lot of difficulties that he has faced, allegations about his personal tax affairs and he has had to field all number of allegations from rival camps trying to stir the pot as one mp who is not particularly hostile to him put it to me, he was a scandal waiting to happen. sol suspect he probably did