dillen ruth showing absolutely no emotion.o link today after being charged with nine counts of murder. he appeared on camera via video link. so, brian, you've been speaking with people all day. so what are you hearing? what are you learning about him? >> don, we've been speaking to one man in particular. they knew each other in middle school. >> i didn't believe him whenever he said he wanted to do something crazy. he wanted segregation. he wanted a race war. he had it in his mind and he didn't really let nobody know. >> meak said there was other bizarre behavior. he talked about race wars mostly when he had been drinking chlts. >> did joey tell you anything about dillen's gun? >> what he first told us that he didn't want to be accused of stealing a gun from him. so he put the gun back into dillen ruth's trunk. now, on how he got the gun. there seems to be a dispute over the purchase o of a gurn mplts. >> they didn't want dillen to have his gun. >> his parents gave him the cash for it? >> for his birthday in april. they both s

you were class mates of dillen. what can you tell us about it? >> he was just an average teenager, i guess. it's just crazy. >> what do you mean it wuchbt anything anyone could have pictured back then? what was his personality like? >> he was just calm, i guess. and like i told people today, you never thought he'd be one to go out and murder all of these people like that. i don't know, man. it's insane. >> was there anything odd about him? >> everyone's got their odd personalities, in my opinion. back then, i never really judged him fr being different. but, you know, now -- >> what do you mean by different than most people? >> he was still kind of quiet and stuff. he wasn't the most popular boy in school, by any means. there are photos of dillen with a confederate flag on his license plate. were you aware of any hatred he had toward black people? >> no, the odd thing about that, he would make racist slurs as jokes, but they were never taken seriously. and not only that, i knew him through black friends of mine. it's weird, but a lot of done. >> w

. >> dillen root is a case in point. >> i hate thesighted of the american flog.sm is an absolute jeek. i have no schois. i am not in a position to, alone, go into the ghetto and fight. and online is where roof and so many other angry, dispossessed people find an audience for their hateful views. >> whether it's isis or american domestic extremists are looking for young people associately isolated who either have a little bit of familiarity with the ideology or are unstable and would be su septemberble to it. >> the main difference? isis is more sophisticated with its messaging. take a look at this map. former cia operative says their behavior is far more difficult. >> frankly, i'm more worried about domestic terrorism. >> the real danger is when the message connects with someone ready, willing and able to carry it out. >> cnn, los angeles. >> thank you. i want to talk more about this with jeffrey swanson at duke university. good evening, dr. swanson. what attracts anyone to this kind of hateful ideology? >> well, it could be a lot of things. you know, belonging t

what we do know is last wednesday, dillen roof went into this church. to show honor to that flag, he shot nine people. he murdered nine people. he reloaded that clip five times after worshipping with those people. for me, i'm sick and tired of that flag being shown honor 234 e in front of our state house throughout the south. >> i've said this over and other again, symbols matter. it's a symbol meant to invoke fear. i remember being in north carolina and i literally saw a truck with a huge confederate flag, two guys, sitting, drinking beer, staring at me. it invoked fear 234 my heart. that is the reaction that most african meshes have. every single person i've spoken to lament the murder of the nine but then immediately say we've got to take the flag down. >> people are looking at everything when it comes to the flag. >> and this i just got from north charleston police. there was a sergeant that was terminated. a sergeant shannon diline posted a picture of himself wearing confederate boxers on the internet and he was fired from that. do you think this i

. >> the suspect is 34-year-old darren dillen wendt. >> almost a week after the shocking murders, lindt'ss everywhere. darren was born in gayanna. he has a violent criminal past. from 2003 to 2005, wendt worked as a welder at american iron works, the same company owned by vocalists. sources say he had a reputation as a problem employee. >> if you're going to commit a crime like this and the victim knows you, i think he had made up his mind that when he came into that house, they would leave no witnesses. >> police track him to his girlfrie girlfriend's house in brooklyn, new york. then, a desperate search leads to a hotel not in new york, but all the way back to washington, d.c. where u.s. marshal fernandez waits. >> we knew he was probably staying in a hotel. >> the timing is incredibly fortunate. >> while the advanced team told us hey, they just took off, they're going up rt. 1. >> fernandez and a small fleet of law enforcement officials chase two vehicles. the white chevy cruz along with a truck of unknown associates. >> i could see. >> after the suspect's vehicles perform a bizarre u-

he is 21-year-old dillen ralph, qualmtured this morning about 245 miles away in north carolina and flownwhile ago. the killings being investigated as a hate crime now. three men

i don't think dillen storm was avail of that. money talks, too.lly never announced the formal end of economic sanctions as a result of that flag. but also today, when walmart made a decision that no longer will confederate merchandise be sold in their stores, that was also a very clear signal to this governor, to lindsey graham who's hesitant to say it's about race, to say it's about christian persecution. it's important to see him there, because that means he even had to walk back from his position. but it's still a historic day. we still have a lot to do to end racism. >> there's more than the flag, too. there's a whole lot more than the flag. >> janai charles, you are with the fund that thurgood marshal was running when he won the brown case in the supreme court and we can trace, as mark pointed out, the resurgence of the confederate floor to 1954. the south was basically ignoring it, then they started raising it to say this. this was taken as an expression against the supreme court ruling. >> that's absolutely right. you cannot divorce the des

the miami herald ran an opinion piece today that said i would not accept that dillen roof would not -not a racist. i wouldn't accept that and they had a quote. the quote\came from the time where we only had a partial license plate. i said, look, let's not jump to conclusions. he could be antichristianment he could be antipeople. we don't know, let's wait. within the 15 minutes that i was on the air, the information came out with who he was. i looked at his facebook page. i saw that the guy is a racist and i said this guy is obviously a massive racist. the miami herald printed this a week later with all of the information saying that glen beck just cannot admit that this guy was racist. >>> glen, i want you to stay with me. i want to talk about someone who has been in the news a lot lately. and get your take on it. when i say this name, you're probably going to -- your eyes are going to get bigger. kat lynn jenner. we're going to talk about that coming up. we call ourselves the freedom hikers. hiking brought us together but that's not the only thing that keeps us coming back. here's to