two family facilities, cairns and dilley. if we were to choose one to go to, which do you think would be the best for us to see? >> oh, goodness. well, i think that would depend on the timing. the dilley facility is only in temporary structures right now. and so it's not up to capacity yet and the full structures have not been built and so i would wait on dilley until we see what the full new structures would look like. so if you were going to go tomorrow, i would say cairns. >> thank you. >> thank you very much, mr. chair. miss lucas, you indicated that there are widely divergent bond amounts set by the immigration judges at artesia. you've gone to great lengths giving us examples of specific bond amounts. i know that in the state court system, as well as in the federal system, the court is often governed by guidelines or recommended bond amounts. are you aware of whether there are any such guidelines for bonds set by the immigration judges? and if there are not, might that be a way to begin addressing the divergence in bond

two family facilities, cairns and dilley. if we were to choose one to go to, which do you think would be the best for us to see? >> oh, goodness. well, i think that would depend on the timing. the dilley facility is only in temporary structures right now. and so it's not up to capacity yet and the full structures have not been built and so i would wait on dilley until we see what the full new structures would look like. so if you were going to go tomorrow, i would say cairns. >> thank you. >> thank you very much, mr. chair. miss lucas you indicated that there are widely divergent bond amounts set by the immigration judges at artesia. you've gone to great lengths giving us examples of specific bond amounts. i know that in the state court system, as well as in the federal system, the court is often governed by guidelines or recommended bond amounts. are you aware of whether there are any such guidelines for bonds set by the immigration judges and if there are not, might that be a way to begin addressing the divergence in bonds?

thomas allen harris: -- >> dilley with my father's sister who had very light skin, and she was borrowedy a local schoolteacher who would take her on train trips, and it appeared that her schoolteacher was traveling with some white child. they could sit in a better class of train seat. she got used to that and in later life, she passed as a white woman. we never had that type of close family ties with her because we were obviously black and she had been per train that she was -- portraying the she was not. brian lamb: how often do you see that today? thomas allen harris: passing? brian lamb: yes? thomas allen harris: i don't know how often you see it today. i think that it still goes on, i think it was a lot more prevalent before the 1950's, in terms of people having common access to jobs. there was an article, and i mentioned "the new york times" earlier, where people have certain types of ethnic names and their resumes get dumped versus more anglo names, that might be more easily described as a white american versus an african-american, and so there are certain levels of passing, chang

scale event for the group hezbollah and activists and monitors saying dozens of people have been dilleyedn army says it's being ignored by the international community and believes is focused only combatting i.s.i.l. fighters, at a meeting in istanbul they called for greater unity and dominick has more. >> reporter: the area just bombed by syrian government forces n the chaos people try to rescue the wounded, before the civil war began more than 100,000 people lived here now many are homeless. the u.n. believes 3 million left syria since 2011 and some like these have gone to camps in turkey. >> translator: if they gave me all the money in the world in turkey and gave me kilos of gold i still wouldn't feel at home how can one leave their home land? i'm always sad, always sad, i came here now and they gave me all these things and i cannot even feel happy about it. >> reporter: the daily violence continues in syria and they have been meeting in istanbul and bashar al-assad stood to fight government forces for years. >> translator: the chaos in the past was behind differences of coalition and