he's in awe of clarence dillon, head of the read. and he kind of i think, a several instances i describe in the book he just kind of his view of the world is i would actually operate is that people like clarence dillon they call up world leaders and they say this is what you should. and then when he reads in the newspaper like, this thing has happened, just assumed this is how the world works, whether or not that's actually why somebody acted the way they did. but then throughout the course of the thirties, he is placed in kind of a higher level of responsibility being on corporate boards, being oftentimes executives, secretary in the room who have the kind of sum up, okay, what's here is our conclusion wins. and he gains the confidence in arguing with the really self people and you know sometimes just straightforward important people. and so i mean there's a kind of confidence that he thinks on wall street and and is his kind of propensity for taking risks. i mean, the thing that i think jonathan, i both really love about this in th