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vice president of the us institute of peace at a for us on behalf of the to ukraine from moscow. dimitri babich, editor at in allstate, internet media projects, and also joining us from washington, dc. sorry, a go, washington director of human rights watchable. welcome to you. we'll. let's start with you 1st that you are in favor of the transfer of these weapons to ukraine. as i understand it. why is that? when i'm in favor of ukrainians. a big being victorious over the russians. the russians have invaded their country. i'm in favor of the ukrainians, having the ability to stop the russian invasion. i'm in favor of united states supporting ukraine in us. attempt to stop the russian invasion and the rest of nato is joining in that effort. so i'm in favor of ukrainian victory. it turns out, as you just reported, that the way that the ukrainians can move to victory goes through our tower. they need our tower. and it turns out again, as you reported that the artillery rounds, the stocks bows in your brain and isn't cottage dates are running out that they are running out. we are running out, your tr