we learn more now about the new rules and the reaction to them from dina capiello, national environmentalorter for the a.p. the key question here was whether coal ash qualifies as a hazardous waste. what did the e.p.a. say? >> it's a non-hazardous waste. they related it today like household garbage. so they decided to make it not hazardous and treat it under the same classification as household trash. >> brown: what's the reasoning? >> the reasoning is the e.p.a. said the current record and evidence showed it didn't meet the hazardous classification and through other measures they could protect communities and public health from these ash waste sites. >> brown: the exemption from federal oversite has been there a long time. >> congress put it in place. i think what people don't understand is a lot of energy wastes are exempt. not only coal ash but drilling wastes are exempt, coal mining waste is exempt. because congress said so. but what they also said was, if you evaluate the waste and at some point in future time the risk is great and it should be classified as hazardous, you have the a