he discusses the company's power and influence with associated press energy reporter dina cappiello. .. >> host: but why this company, and how was it, how did it differ from some of your other summits like the bin ladens? >> guest: uh-huh. and it's an interesting -- to me, it was an interesting journey because, as you point out, i started out as a business reporter on wall street when i was very young, and then i went abroad and worked more on international subjects. and after 9/11 i wrote about the origins of the 9/11 attacks in 20 years of american covert policy in afghanistan, and this book "ghost wars." and after that was over i thought, you know, i want to keep writing about america and the world after 9/11, this sort of asymmetric, strange groping that we had as a country to understand what the attacks were about, what they meant to the united states, what our relationship with the middle east was. and that led me to the bin ladens which was a book intend bed to be about saudi arabia and its modernization and how complicated it was for this generation of oil shock boomers that