last meeting to consider the proposal and come with recommendations including things you like for dinalloke about these -- this proposal, that opportunity, at least on this last proposal, it was not there. it was not there to rubber-stamp the proposal made by staff. it is to analyze and make recommendations. there was a lost opportunity there. to the extent that there is anything that is good in this proposal, a credit all the different folks across the spectrum i have talked to. to the extent that there is anything that folkestone obligor feel good but i take responsibility for those. i think in presenting this to the board i do it in a spirit i believe they're open to feedback including some of what we heard and have seen in advance of this meeting to make it fair and workable and that is the spirit in which this was developed. i will walk through the couple slides to take what is a complex issue and try to lay it out. that would be open to any clarifying questions or comments and i would like to yield to the chair for his response before public comment. if we could go to the brief slid

should we wait until that point, or should we do these interim once dinallo and vote on the last one when we meet after august 16. commissioner renne: i thought was and so far there minutes, some are minutes of regular meetings which were not related to the special sessions we have been holding. that i would think that will hold off approving the mets for any of the midst relating to the mirkarimi matter and just approve the minutes for our regular meeting. because it may well be, we have mentioned at the hearings that the determinations may have been made that are reflected in some of those, for example the may 29 meetings and the june 19 meetings. there may be changed before we reach a final determination. what seemed to be premature to do with those at this time, we should hold off until we reach a conclusion of those meetings. >> i appreciate you raising this and i appreciate that comment. i agree that it is a balancing act between sharing information with the public and care about taking the matter as a whole. what was going through my mind is that the meetings the report on wor

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