>> the leading rights in the conservative movement, dinesh desousa, and a whole host of others. >> if you put and coulter out to does it sell automatically because of her name? >> it certainly helps. but i can't tell you any book is a guarantee of success anymore. as the book business has changed over the past 12 years a lot more of the business has gone online. so you lose that opportunity to visualize and publish those books visually and also lose the sense of discovery people have had for generations or finding the book they didn't know existed or an author they did not know about before. so frankly it is more pressure on publishers to help people know that a book exist if there isn't a celebrity author. >> how do you market a book? regnery has become the leader and by that i mean we think organically from the very beginning how the book will become part of the news cycle with the theme of the book and the topics and the issues to be connected with what is happening with the crystal ball and we try to anticipate what the big concerns will be within the marketplace driving the news

saw how the weaponized department of justice went after people like congressman michael graham, dinesh desousapeople like that. it has been on its way to happening for quite some time, and we are the most politicized level of our doj and fbi in my lifetime. >> tucker: it's sure seems that way. i don't know if you can respond to this question because you are the subject of a lot of attention. but carter page, he was the pretext for apparently a lot of this spying on the trump campaign. i've only seen him during his msnbc interviews. he doesn't look to me like a very credible russian agent. did you ever see any indication that he was speaking to the russians, that he was speaking in russian on a shortwave radio and has adequate? did you think he was a mole? >> we never saw carter page in trump tower. he was like george papadopoulos, a member of a rare v meeting policy committee, volunteers he would come in for one day. he knows about russia, he was in business there. i see them on television, i see them walking away from these inquiries on the hill. i got to tell you, first i was kind of palms u