joining me now mercedes schlapp, the 20in campaign dinesh desousa. former president obama just told his party to ditch the old purity test. so what's going on here? >> obama on the left was tethered to reality and, there's one thing to say that you have people who are aliens that are clearly breaking the law. but there's a special category of lawbreaker, and this is the guide that is the drug dealer or murder. and it to say that that guy should not be deported would be political lunacy. so obama never went there. the fact that we have a democratic party taking this kind of stance considering the deportation, and this gives you an idea of how this has become unhinged from reality. >> i say this quite often, trump has been like an astringent across the political skin of the country. you kind of see where everybody is -- the real faces and their real sensibility. and now we know. the democrat said for years, we are for border enforcement but we are actually not. they are not for border enforcement and everyone comes and gets to stay, even aliens who com