director harbor: which takes us to public comment -- director herbert -- directer harper: which takes us to public comment. >> good morning. i'm here today because i need some information. this thing has gotten completely out of control. i do not know what really causes this to happen, but there are absolutely no african-american contractors on this project. there are no african-american contractors on board. there are no african-american contractors doing work with pg&e. all of these big agencies, particularly webcor and turner, have decided that they did not have to hire blacks at no time because of proposition 209. what they do is say they will hire minorities. we know what that means. but people are excluded. i am now the president of a veterans association -- i am a veteran of a war, and i