but what is interesting about dirk kempthorne, he was known for being conservative with the economy.mic issues. neil: was is an thoorgmen anotht too he had gone way under budget with his expenses in office and after office, i don't know if this is a case, this is jump change -- chump change in comparison. >> but this is taxpayer dollars. neil: that is what galls me, go after dennis kozlowski if you will on what he spent. that is the crux of his debate. but, this is taxpayer money. >> well, dennis kozlowski paid back everyone in million dollars everyone in million in finds, and -- 97 million in finds. he was convicted and -- >> who would rubber-stamp this. >> general services, which is landing record. of the u.s. government. was nobody looking, they claim there was water damage, but gale norton, kempthorne's predecessor, you know i know a plumber named tommy who can to this, for a lot less. neil: this is why we have a spending problem. this is part of it. >> taxpayers, alliance president said that the country is broke, this is unacceptable. this is up in with military buying toil ea t