address this disproportionalty against a service that we think that we need more of and with the same resources we have to have fewer of these. we are not locked into that if we can't get the nurses we can always have the social workers, or whatever support personnel is deemed by the district since this is the centrally allocated things to be able to address the students support needs. so i guess, i just think that that should be said that this is a concept that we think is a good direction in which we want to move. but we may or may not be able to accomplish that and we and therefore, the public will be kept apprised of that. >> thank you. >> commissioner mendoza? >> i forgot what i was going to say. so, this is always that march stamp that we do. and it is processes con voluted and we work on exceptions which makes zero sense, it is a required time frame that never matches our planning. and looking at you, this is... this is this. you know? and i think that the other added piece that we have to or that we are up against a wall and we need to be caution. and that the out come of that

we just know there's -- we look at achievement, we look at disproportionalty, but in order to change it, we have to know how to change it and what we can do. do we even know what kind of supports we really need? this is what's happening, you know. and i think this is a really -- too bad we gotta get [inaudible] in order for us to sort of investigate this, but i think it's telling us what we knew for years and i'm really glad that our district is finally doing something about it. >> can i just add on something there? and i guess my real question is you have black only focus groups? i think that's the call of the day? right? where you happen to say this this is such a significant issue, we have groups of families and -- you're trying to create this space for people to come. be courageous and not be afraid to tell somebody you can't come to this meeting 'cause it's very specific and we're trying to right an awful wrong. >> in terms of the group that i work with and in terms of the technical consul substantiates with the state, one of the platforms we're use edd to try to get the disenfr