they need to make joe biden lot more dispies. position him as something who's not capable mentally standing up to the far left. he's going to be a vessel to the far left. what you were just talking about with more of the republicans and people like kasich peculiars the trump campaign will spend lot of money to frame joe biden someone who ought to be feared by moderate and republicans. >> bret: you covered this white house. the president was just asked about this group, qanon who believe the president >> do you think he answered that well? is going to be asked about it, i guess. >> yeah -- >> it was very odd to me. i thought it was a pretty easy layup to condemn. >> bret: carl? >> big mistake. they might like him, but they like and because he is fighting an incredibl incredible war aga. it's just ridiculous. get done with it. speak to donna, carl, we will see you later. when we come back, some final thoughts. ♪ but bristol myers squibb is working to change things. by researching new kinds of medicines that could help you live long