of them lived long enough to change their tune, including, i'm happy to say, dizzy gillespie, who initten at the end of his life, apologized to him as describing him as an uncle tom. i will quote gillespie verbatim, he said hell, i had my own way of tomming. so now, we are as far beyond armstrong's life as gillespie was beyond the beginningings of it, we can see him as he was, as a figure from history, and as someone whose art and i think his personality, is of permanent interest and permanently contemporary, even if there are aspects of it that we wouldn't especially want to see at the movies today, let us say. >> thank you so much for this great work. >> gentleman now, yes, sir l. >> thank you for your talk, thanks for this lovely book. i imagine for a serious critic like yourself, it's hard to sustain focus on and produce an objective book on a subject that is so utterly loveable and who you obviously loved and you pulled it off. >> thank you. i don't pretend to be -- objectivity sounds like something that came out of the ice box and tears a sense i'm not even slightly objective a