lindberg will be joined by admiral yamamoto, the former ambassador to ethiopia and djibouti. and the council on foreign relations. on the second panel, we will hear from the leader of the humanitarian operations throughout the region, and then the africa center and a former professor with madison university.

djibouti, a couple of countries tried to initiate a political dialogue. i think there is a sense of fatigue when you talk about somalia among a lot of countries. in relation with so many refugees who are resettled, about 10,000 somali refugees are settled around the world. 5000 of them are coming to the u.s. every year. it is a small program. resettlement is not the solution for everybody. it is only the solution for a tiny minority of refugees. the u.s. has been generous. the somali refugees are doing well whatever they are in the u.s. minneapolis, and other parts of the country. i visited some recently in chicago, illinois. they are doing very well. they have an entrepreneurial mind and they don't reduce the stigma of the fragmentation of the somali society when they get the chance to live in resettlement. many are fed up with the situation back home. they like to play an active role in promoting some sort of dialogue in their country. i think that maybe some of the solutions to somalia may come from the diaspora. host: nearly 900,000 somalis are curren

we began prepositions food stocks, food aid, stockpiling food in djibouti, kenya, and south africa. we have sense just this fiscal year provided $459 million of aid in the horn. this includes food assistance, treatment for malnourished children, water, sanitation, hygiene, education, and assistance in the refugee camps. we are now focused aggressively on working to abate the possession for mass starvation in southern somalia. we learned in the drought of 19962 in somalia that the leading cause of death for children under 5 was disease. we are focusing on three key areas, therefore. first the availability of food including those therapeutic foods so essential for children under 5. access to food. and integrated health programs. in terms of key challenges, we identify three. first time, it is not on our side. we have a small window to reach those in need. or risk the adigsal deaths of several 100,000. we are looking at about a six to eight week window. access, access is the -- in the worst affected areas of south somalia. remain the primary obstacle to relief efforts. as you noted the

we commend the governments of kenya, djibouti, and ethiopia for their generous support of the refugee populations, even as they themselves are currently struggling with the drought that maybe the worst in some 60 years. while the current crisis is taxing already stressed system, i am confident the governments of kenya, ethiopia, djibouti, and their international partners including the united states have the ability to confront this crisis had on and will be able to find new solutions to address the needs not only within the camps but also for those within somalia. let me give two examples of what i saw during my trip. first, the u.s. and our regional -- and our regional partners have helped wrap up emergency assistance. i traveled to the refugee camp complex on the ethiopian-somali border, accompanied by a u.s. ambassador, u.s. aid ambassador, government officials, country representatives, and senior representatives from several donor countries. as we wandered through the refugee camp, talking with people had been there several days or only just arrived, we heard versions of the same

djibouti, a uple of countries tried to initiate a political dialogue. i think there is a sense of fatigue when you talk about somalia among lot of countries. in relation with so many refugees who are resettled, about 10,000 somali refugees are settled around the world. 5000 of them are coming to the u.s. every year. it is a small program. resettlement is not the solution for everybody. it is only the solution for a tiny minory of refugees. the u.s. has been generous. the somali refugees are doing well whatever they are in the u.s. minneapolis, and other parts of the country. i visited some recently in chicago, illinois. they are doing very well. they have an entrepreneurial mind and they don't reduce the stigma of the fragmentation of the somali society when they get the chance to live in resettlement. many areed up with the situation back home. they like to play an active role in promoting some sort of dialogue in their country. i think tt maybe some of the solutions to somalia may come from the diaspora. host: nearly 900,000 somalis are currently refu

hub of dubai international because it flies to north korea, pyongyang in somalia that all go to djibouti and once they get to djibouti come you get on an 1870s soviet prop plane quite visibly adjuncts and ukrainians. they're very cantankerous. the engine part hasmonean fatcats on the other hand. so you know, i compare it to somalia and the soviet union. one said those solutions collapsed. i compared these ukrainians in the book to people who have been forgotten about and condemned for this neglected roof forever. but anyway, that's it. >> host: cemented that -- the last time you were were on the sideline of foreigners, not a lot of people to look like you. guess code none. it was shocking because i went over there expecting to meet a lot of journalists. this is right after the series started and captured, the oil tanker carrying 100 million crude oil designated the newspaper headlines. >> host: the first trip i made was for six weeks. during that time -- beginning at 2009 i thought during that entire time, one group of foreigners is an australian camera crew. so we were literally passing

and then there's flights to somalia that i'll go through djibouti.once they get to djibouti you get on the 1970s soviet prop plane, flown by like a drunken ukrainians. they are very cantankerous. their stories of them hitting engines with wrenches. i compared to somalia and the soviet union, one side very strong cubical thais and one side, once those relations collapse i compare these ukrainians in the book to people have just been forgotten about and are just condemned to ferry this neglected root for ever. but anyway, that's how you get your. >> host: so you ended up, the last time you were on, not a lot of foreigners. not a lot of people who look like you? >> guest: none. it was shocking because i went over there expecting to meet a lot of foreign journalist. this was right when the star exploded. it was after the series star had been captured, the oil tanker during 100 million in crude oil that ignited the newspaper headlines. so i expected to find a lot of journalists there. the first to buy me, i made two trips. the first year, during that time

it flies to pyongyang and then djibouti and then once you get on djibouti you get on a 1970s prop plane flown by quite visibly drunken ukrainians. they're very contanks are slamming with sledgehammers and. i compare these ukrainians in the book to people who had just been forgotten about and were just condemned to this neglected route forever. but anyway, that's how you get there. >> host: and you ended up -- the last plane you were on, not a lot of foreigners, certainly not a lot of people look like you. >> guest: none, yeah. it was shocking because i went over there expecting to meet a lot of foreign journalists. this is when the story really exploded. it was after -- it was after the oil tanker had been captured carrying 100 million in crude oil. that really ignited the newspaper headlines and i expected to find a lot of journalists. i made two troops. the first trip was for six weeks and during that time, i saw -- >> host: 2009. >> guest: beginning of 2009. and i saw during that entire time one group of foreigners and it was an australian camera crew that was flying in on my final d

and then once they get to djibouti in 1970's soviet prop plane flown by ukrainians and on the engine with sweeping vodka from the other hand and so this kind of stories to and i compared it to somalia and soviet union and the geopolitical of ties and once those relations collapsed icon parody's ukrainians in the book to people who had just been forgotten about and just condemned to this neglected or forever. >> host: the last plane he were on not a lot of foreigners, not a lot of people like to you. >> guest: none. was shocking because i expected to meet a lot of foreign journalists and when it exploded and after the serious start captured the oil tanker carrying 100 million crude oil that amended the headlines so i expected to find a lot of journalists and the first trip, i made two trips, the first was from six weeks and during that time i saw -- >> host: in 2009 -- >> guest: the beginning of 2009 and during that entire time i saw one group of foreigners and it was an australian camera crew flying in on my final day in the country so we were literally passing each other in the airp

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a million somalis the drought has put about twelve million people at risk across ethiopia kenya djibouti and somalia. to algeria now where a suicide attack on a military academy has killed at least eighteen most of them trainee offices up to twenty others were injured it happened in the city of shell and reports say up to two bombers set off their explosives soldiers were breaking their ramadan fast although no one's claimed responsibility similar assaults have been blamed on the regional arm of al qaida. the former georgian republic of has elected a new leader following the death of its president alexander. saw off two other candidates to the top seed chill now occupy for the next five years and is r.t.s. tom barton reports there's been some big business to take care of in the little country. former vice president alexander un viber is now the president of the caucasus republic of cars here the central election commission announced that he took fifty five percent of the one hundred two votes cast and they put voted turnout at a high seventy two percent all of this was made necessary by

and million somalis the drought has put about twelve million people at risk across ethiopia kenya djibouti and somalia. the former georgian republic of concept has elected a new leader following the death of its president alexander so off to other candidates to the top seed which will now occupy over the next five years and talk about reports there are some big business to be taken care of in the little little country. former vice president alexander un vibe is now the president of the caucasus republic of our cars here the central election commission announced that he took fifty five percent of the one hundred two votes cast and they put voted turnout as a high seventy two percent all of this is made necessary by the death of the previous president surrogate baggage on the twenty ninth of may he died suddenly leaving a power vacuum in his place because people are going to expect a lot from mr and primarily building up cars use ruined infrastructure after a long struggle for independence from georgia three years ago russia recognized the independence of abkhazia after a war away to the eas

djibouti, a couple of countries tried to initiate a political dialogue. i think there is a sense of fatigue when you talk about somalia among a lot of countries. in relation with so many refugees who are resettled, about 10,000 somali refugees are settled around the world. 5000 of them are coming to the u.s. every year. it is a small program. resettlement is not the solution for everybody. it is only the solution for a tiny minority of refugees. the u.s. has been generous. the somali refugees are doing well whatever they are in the u.s. minneapolis, and other parts of the country. i visited some recently in chicago, illinois. they are doing very well. they have an entrepreneurial mind and they don't reduce the stigma of the fragmentation of the somali society

they are pouring over the borders into ethiopia, kenya, and djibouti.hat, in turn, severely strains the capacity of those local communities and countries. the united states is now providing $92 million in emergency humanitarian assistance inside somalia. to facilitate aid within somalia's central and southern region, we have recently issued new guidance about the use of u. s. funds to help aid groups working with the united states government try to save more lives. still, a great deal depends on whether al-shabaab is willing to let international assistance be delivered. and so i once again urge al-shabaab to heed the calls not only of the international community, including the arab league, but of the cries of their own people, and allow the secure delivery of relief to all those who are afflicted. the united states will continue to work with somalis in the international community to bring the hope of peace and stability to somalia, and we join all somalis in hoping that there will be a future with a functioning government that can protect the somali peo

they are pouring over the borders into ethiopia, kenya, and djibouti. that, in turn, severely strains the capacity of those local communities and countries. the united states is now providing $92 million in emergency humanitarian assistance inside somalia. to facilitate aid within somalia's central and southern region, we have recently issued new guidance about the use of u. s. funds to help aid groups working with the united states government try to save more lives. still, a great deal depends on whether al-shabaab is willing to let international assistance be delivered. and so i once again urge al-shabaab to heed the calls not only of the international community, including the arab league, but of the cries of their own people, and allow the secure delivery of relief to all those who are afflicted. the united states will continue to work with somalis in the international community to bring the hope of peace and stability to somalia, and we join all somalis in hoping that there will be a future with a functioning government that can protect the somali p

they are pouring over the borders into ethiopia, kenya and djibouti. that in turn severely strained the capacity of those local communities and countries. the united states is now providing $92 million in emergency humanitarian assistance inside somalia. to facilitate aid within somalia central and southern regions, we have recently issued new guidance about the use of u.s. funds to help keep groups working with the united dates government try to save more lives. still, a great deal depends on whether al-shabaab is going to let international is distance be delivered. and so i once again urge al-shabaab to be the cause, not only of the international community, including the arab league, but of the cries of their own people and allow the secure delivery of relief to all those who are afoot good. the united states will continue to work with somalis in the international community to bring the hope of peace and stability to somalia. and we join all of them always been hoping that there will be a future with a functioning government that can protect the soma

we have had in fact in other parts of africa -- ethiopia, kenya, djibouti. there have been less problems than there would have been because there is greater economic growth and greater agriculture practices. somalia is a country that has been run by warlords, has no legal system, basically is a chaotic, almost on civilized country. it has been extremely difficult to astonish and economic system -- to establish an economic system. in somalia, the challenge is to feed people and keep them from dying as they die in somalia and move into refugee camps in other parts of the world. host: indianapolis, independent line. caller: hello, this is ted from indianapolis. guest: yes, sir. caller: just a minute. i have a few comments for you, mr. glickman. i am a former manager, retired, at age 70, have a master's degree in ag-econ, and i disagree with you on the final stages of economic growth. i agree with you that roads and sewers and economic infrastructure are required. but my statement to you is, i don't think we can afford it anymore. i think that the nation has too

the countries most affected, kenya, ethiopia, djibouti, down to tanzania. how they getting across the borders? is there any border control? is it mostly walking? by their tribes walking across the border? guest: they are walking. there is no smuggling. people walk on their own. it is a long border. there are border control posts, but there was no possibility for a country like kenya to control entire border. it is a long walk. in countries like ethiopia, the border is better guarded. they have a problem with eritrea, so they have a better capacity to control the border. you have landmines also between eritrea and ethiopia and some of the refugees are going through these writs to get to ethiopia. those coming to yemen are going by boat. often these people are exploited by all sorts of the smugglers and thugs abusing the people on their way to yemen. host: guest: host: how much of this is tribal? guest: the chance are very important. even the subclan affiliation is important in somalia. so the clanic structure of the country is not necessarily been a very fac

they are poring over the borders into ethiopia, kenya, and djibouti. that severely strains the capacity of those local communities and countries. the united states is now providing $92 million in emergency humanitarian assistance inside somalia. to facilitate aid in the central and southern region, we have issued new guidelines about the use of u.s. funds to help aid groups try to save more lives. a great deal depends on whether al-shabab is willing to let international assistance be delivered. i urge them to heed the call of the international community and the cries of their own people and allow the secure delivery of relief to all of those afflicted. the united states will continue to work with somalis and the international community to bring the hope of peace and stability to somalia. we joined all somalis in hoping that there will be a future with a functioning government that can protect the somali people against famine and help to build a sustainable agricultural sector. these are the steps we're taking to address the immediate crisis. we must no

let's begin with the horn of africa, a couple of questions about piracy and what is going on in djibouti and the ocean. >> piracy -- i am responsible for the waters off africa. africom handle somalia. it is a destitute area. young men go out to sea and take over ships. they climb on board. they take them into port. they hold them, sometimes for an excess of the year, until a hefty ransom -- $2 million -- is dropped in by parachute. then they let the ship go. it is very lucrative for these fellows. i will tell you, there are military solutions, but this is a political problem. there is no international piracy court. each nation has to decide, if they grabs somebody for doing this, as our nation has -- we just put several people in jail who killed american sailors out there. but without an international criminal court that deals with this, and without some sort of effort to have a cohesive naval presence out there, we just have too many people doing their own thing. we do not have a good policy for how to deal with the ones we capture. until we get our political act together and say that i

a couple of questions about piracy, what is going on in djibouti, the indian ocean, that part. >> piracy -- i am responsible for the waters off africa. somalia, where most of the paris he comes from, a destitute area per -- imost of the piracy comes from, destitute area. young men come on board, take them into port sometimes in excess of a year, until the very hefty ransom, 1 million, 2 million, 3 million common brought in by parachute, and then at the bank let the ship ago. it is very lucrative for these fellows. i would just tell you, ladies and,, there are military solutions -- ladies and gentlemen, there are military solution, but this is a political problem. there is no piracy court, so each nation has prhave to decide if they got somebody for doing this, as our nation has. we just put several people in jail who killed american sailors -- just the family selling out their. without an international criminal court that deals with this and some sort of effort to have a cohesive naval presence out there, we have just got too many people doing their own thing. we don't have a good policy

a severe drought has put more than 12 million people in ethiopia, kenya, djibouti and smalya in danger of starvation. it is also a refugee crisis, because at this point hundreds of thousands of people have left their homes in search of food and safety. some are walking more than 100 miles with their children in their arms to reach refugee camps, which are so overcrowded that how the st.s wait outside the fences, and more arrive every minute, many close to death. what is happening in the horn of africa is the most severe humanitarian emergency in the world today, and the worst that east africa has seen in several decades. the united states and our partners in the region including the world food program, the u.s. high commissioner for refugees, ewan seff, n.g.o.'s and donor governments are racing to save as many lives as possible. fortunately, we did, as the director general just said, have a bit of a head start because of the family inearly warning system network known as fuse net. the united states summits it, along with others. it monitors drought and crop conditions and alerts govern