and i'm like, well, why are you taking me to djibouti? why do we have a base in djibouti? the answer was, well, because al qaeda is now is now in djibouti. and like everywhere we thought they were, we would go. we didn't make friends in that process. and by the way, casey, i, you know, i had skin in this game. i was one of those behind a microphone like this parroting the line, we need to fight them over there. i think it was zell miller. we need to fight him over there. or will we be fighting them here? no. every time we went over there, we raised the odds that they were going to hate us more. that was the lesson i took away. maybe i'm mistaken, but i've been reflecting on the last 30 years, and that's what i think. >> yeah. fascinating. all right. michael smerconish always enjoy having your perspective on the show, sir. thank you so much for being here. see you next week. thank you. do tune in to smerconish. it's tomorrow morning, 9 a.m. eastern, right here on cnn. all right. it's 52 minutes past the hour. here is your morning roundup. a bering air flight with ten people