he was a partner in the government affairs practice of dla piper and a management consultant with mckinzie & company. he has worked for this commission as well as for my committee. i share the human rights committee of the house of representatives, has been a great source of actionable information concerning human rights in general, but political prisoners in particular. then we'll hear from bob fu, one of the leaders of the 1989 student democracy movement in tiananmen square, and later became a house church pastor and founder along with his wife. in 1996, authorities arrested and imprisoned them for their wo work. after their release, they escaped to the united states and founded china aid foundation. he has been, again, like mr. genser, a great source of information and is accurate as well as actionable, so i thank him for his leadership on behalf of people of all faith, including and especially christians, who are suffering so much in the people's republic of china. i'd like to now ask geng ho to present her testimony. >> louder, please? [ speaking foreign language ] >> can you hear me?

now, senior policy advisor at dla piper and our friend, oklahoma republican center and doctor, tom coburn. thank you, sir, appreciate it. now, look, are there no limits to federal power? are there no limits to the commerce clause? is the tenth amendment now out the window? >> i don't think it's out the window. it's an effort to try to find the right balance. i heard some of your comments and i would say that we already have a mandate. the mandate we have now is a community mandate. every time you go into the hospital, every time you pay a premium, you're mandated it's going to cost you about a thousand dollars this year to pay for those who don't have coverage. and that mandate is one that we're struck with right now. so this isn't about a mandate. we're either going to require individual responsibility or we're going to require everybody else who currently has to pay for those who don't to continue to do so. that's first. secondly, you already have a mandate to pay for retirement insurance with social security and a mandate to pay for hospital insurance with medicare part a. so you have