and this is an anthropology podcast on the first, its host dmitry dibrov alesya rostovskaya and chermenvokse a community of performers for the term, you correspond at all, if we eventually have a whole festival and the term boxing, or at least concerts there are such terms that do a lot organizational work. yes, uh, holds a terminology festival every year even. yes he e does a lot to popularize the term vox, maybe we'll listen. well, yes, let's , here's what you could show us as a composer, well, in this case, you know , you still look, they showed us one note to show here. let's tell you, please, about learning the term vox, it's really difficult, because lucky. i started there with a living teacher. but by the way, i then worked out with lida, uh, for a while. uh, there, how the master classes were open and, frankly, it’s just there were a lot of guys who, well, played just like that, it was hard to listen to, and i gradually realized that, but it’s hard for me to sit there for 3 hours, so that later i can get my 15 minutes, and i switched to learning from the videos and audio recordings