jamie for dnc chair.com. listen, at age 29 i was the first african-american and the youngest person to be executive director for the house democr democratic caucus. at age 30 i was the first african-american to be whip director for the whip operation. bottom line is this, we have to stop particularly with the consultants. you cannot come to the dnc and get a contract and the only minority face that you have is the person that answers your phone. fp you want a contract you need to have an operation where you train the next generation of folks so they can do the media, they can do everything else'. ' we have to transform the entire party from the contractors to internal and i'm the person that can do that. >> ray for dnc.com. 'read what i want to do as dnc chair but look what i've done. as state chair in new hampshire we always had a senior staff person, nearly 30 were african-americans last year. one of our dnc members from new hampshire is african-american. as head of the state chair's association i hired the

i worked as a staffer at the dnc. i understand the barriers put in front of young people of color who have magically found their way within that institution. i invite each of you to go to my website, where we just put a 2006 at theme in dnc african-american leadership summit speaking truth to the power within the dnc itself. that is the type of person we need in the chair because they because --hed forces because of their are entrenched forces within state party and national party that stop the power from being shared amongst young people, so not only do we have to make sure we are recruiting from a talented diverse workforce, but when they come within our power they are -- when they come within our party, they are not given meaningless position and given a , chance to rise up through leadership. it is going to take someone who understands the dnc and state parties from the inside out to really tap into this transformational opportunity. and that is what i bring to the table. not taking the bs that even ourselves as d

officer of the dnc, one of our dnc members is african-american. as head of the state chairs association i heart the first african-american woman to be the executive director of the association and her first director training african-american women. as the leadership of the state chairs association are dealt with african-american, latino, people color as well. [applause] >> how we make sure more diverse talent is recruited. it boils down to this. they're a framework reproducing activities and there are framework transforming activities. everyone on the stage pretty much what the same thing. you want to see how we do it, we plot on. if you want to see widely than the right person to do it, where not only proud my staff is in majority, minority and exceptionally diverse in my office, but would also work with the vendor base. assume responsibility for how is in the first place. part of the solution in this room. we got a lot of work to do in the party has to assume responsibility for that if we are living our values and walking the walk, we will not b

that's something that the dnc chair can do. the other thing the dnc chair has to do is hold the media accountable. because bias comes from the media images that make not just people out watching fox news but all over the world scared of when they see jamie harrison and that has to be called out, the media is not always our friend and that's something i bring to this debate where i understand the games they play and i'm not going to play them anymore. as a democrat, this sour opportuo -- is our opportunity to say you as he media elites, profited off the 2016 election and delivered us this nightmare in the white house. we're not taking it anymore. training not just legislated officials on implicit bias and change the conversation how black people are reflected in this country and that is something the dnc chair can do. [ applause ] >> tom perez? >> of all the questions you have asked tonight, this is the one that's most personal for me. because i spent the bulk of pmy career working on issues of police reform. i prosecuted an lap

i hope to be your dnc chair. i hope to be your dnc chair, but whether i am or not, i am proud to be your brother and a member of this democratic party. take you all very much. [applause] -- thank you all very much. [applause] >> think you, congressman ellison. ray buckley? mr. buckley: thank you mr. chairman, jamie and keith as well. i want to reiterate what my two friends of year have said. we are not running against each other. we have committed to defend each other and as i tweeted out the other day, do not send me crab about one of the other candidates because we are united and we have chosen to believe that we can win but only if we are one party and we cannot be divided. you can say if you want, but it is not going to affect our support. most of you have known me nearly my entire life. you have seen me as a teenager, 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's. you know the story about studying to become an activist at eight years old because i was so horrified by the injustice of racial injustice. to me, that became my cause.

theleads us as chair of dnc? -- theribly dnc? thingsaid among other and it challenged us to look at the power and the potential of the new american majority to lead the democratic party forward. the current president made raw appeal to white nationalism, and steve has rightly stated that the democrats lost because they did not know how to directly address race. [applause] the fact is that people of color party, of the democratic and those numbers will continue to go up. the reality calls for a new type of leadership, a new type of understanding of who the voters are, what they want in political leadership. his wife have been working on this nonstop, calling for solutions in this increasingly racially polarized planet. tonight, we have a unique opportunity to have an open conversation about how race impact -- impact. like the great dr. reverend barber says, our task is to build a new language that pulls people together and explores new avenues to save the heart of democracy. togetherace and class as we -- not to cut across race, b

message black dnc lives matter? >> the dnc has to acknowledge black lives matter are responding to urgent problems in the community. black lives matter cropped up because of mass incarceration, you know, trayvon martin's execution, all these sort of social problems that -- i've worked on as lawyer and as a young activist my whole life and what i would say the dnc needs to do is offer and make itself into the kind of place that black lives matter feels it can channel its electoral energy. so for example, demonstration is absolutely key, i believe in it, i've done it my whole life and i'll do it some more, but i also know that you got to have some legislation to go with that demonstration you are seeking, just like john lewis was fighting for the 1965 voting rights act and 1964 civil rights act. you got to have the , demonstration has to result in legislation or you end up with a whole lot of frustration. that's the real key. how can we get black lives matter but also fight for 15 in the union, the immigration struggl

and the dnc is clicking on these links. i've got to tell you something, no one thinks that assange is a great guy, i can assure you of that, but i think the issue here is yes, bad for an actors, but it's also the dnc that has allowed itself to be hacked by about anyone in the world, and that is one of the reasons why this was such a big deal. i don't think anybody is talking about it. >> chris: i want to get into one must area, we are running out of time. has president-elect trump given up on trying to work with democrats? >> absolutely not. absolutely not. in fact -- >> chris: can i explain to why i'm i'm asking the question? >> sure. >> chris: i'm curious why he sent out to go tweets this week. one referring to clowns, and another the head clown. here's what vice president biden said this week. >> grow up. grow up. time to be an adult. your president. you've got to do something. show us what you have. >> chris: how do you respond to the vice president and why on earth call chuck schumer a clown? how was i going to help yo

> we've got that. >> a 14-year-old could have gotten into dnc.ve staffers opening up emails, i'm stranded in mali and i need $20,000, click on this link and the dnc is clicking on the links, i have to tell you something, nobody thinks that assange is a great guy, i can assure you that. i think the issue here is, yes, bad foreign actors but it's also the dnc that has allowed itself to be hacked by anyone in the world and that is one of the reasons why this was such a big deal. and i don't think anyone is talking about it. >> i want to get to one last area with you and we are running out of time. has president-elect trump given up on trying to work with democrats? >> absolutely not. absolutely not. in fact, -- >> can i explain to you why i'm asking the question? >> sure. >> because i'm curious as to why he sent out two tweets this week, one referring to schumer clowns and another to head clown chuck schumer. this is what vice president biden said this week. >> grow up, donald. grow up. time to be an adult. you're president. you have to do something

who lisa says chair at the dnc? the strategy of the party is going to be central to the success of getting back power. so the road to tonight's form began in earnest from appointment analysis articulated in democracy and colors founder the book, brown is the new white. said, among other other things and it challenged us to look at the power and the potential of the new american majority to leave the democratic party forward. the current president made raw appeals to white nationalism and steve has rightly stated unequivocally that the democrats lost because they did not know how to directly address race. [applause] the fact is people of color 46% of the democratic party and those numbers will continue to go up. the reality calls for a new type of leadership and a new type of understanding of who the voters are and what they want and political leadership. steve and his wife have been working on this nonstop calling for solutions in this racially polarized climate. so tonight, we have a unique opportunity to have an o

> we've got that. >> a 14-year-old could have gotten into dnc.ve staffers opening up emails, i'm stranded in mali and i need $20,000, click on this link and the dnc is clicking on the links, i have to tell you something, nobody thinks that assange is a great guy, i can assure you that. i think the issue here is, yes, bad foreign actors but it's also the dnc that has allowed itself to be hacked by anyone in the world and that is one of the reasons why this was such a big deal. and i don't think anyone is talking about it. >> i want to get to one last area with you and we are running out of time. has president-elect trump given up on trying to work with democrats? >> absolutely not. absolutely not. in fact, -- >> can i explain to you why i'm asking the question? >> sure. >> because i'm curious as to why he sent out two tweets this week, one referring to schumer clowns and another to head clown chuck schumer. this is what vice president biden said this week. >> grow up, donald. grow up. time to be an adult. you're president. you have to do something

if i am dnc chair, a lot more young folks on the dnc board.oing to keep our institutional memory. people don't need to be afraid of that. we're going to keep folks who know where they have been around the block. but we are going to invest ourselves with new energy. give a budget to the young democrats to make sure they're organized and on campus all over this country and we're going to have a special new relationship with young democrats of america who are past college, but not yet into mid-life. so, we're going to -- we think millennials are a big deal. if you look at all the folks. my son is running for city council. his name is jer emiah ellison. he got inspired by standing up for issues. >> making his pitch for dnc cha chair. thank you so much for being here. good luck on that dnc chair race. >> you bet. >>> coming up some "a.m. joy" favorites are finding a home in the trump administration. you do not want to go away. >>> every day we get another glimpse into the future donald trump administration and it's not pretty. the latest additions

now a candidate for dnc chair.e to meet you. >> great to be with you rachel. >> never been here before. >> never invited me. >> it's my fault. i hereby am sorry. so there are several people running for dnc chair. why did you decide to run and when? >> i decided because this moment, all you have to do is watch the first four days of carnage that president trump has inflicted on the american people. we're at this moral and ethical and economic fork in the road in our nation's history and my entire life has been about making sure that we fight for progressive values so i decided to run because we need, frankly, the dnc is a turnaround job. there's a crisis of confidence right now in the democratic national committee and we need a leader who can inspire people, who can take the fight to donald trump, who can appeal to every stake holder in our big tent and who understands how to take this complex organization that isn't firing on all cylinders and move it forward. that's what i did at the department of labor and what i

of course the dnc was hacked, everybody knows the dnc was hacked. was john podesta hacked? i can personally tell you. >> sandra: but we are focusing on the server, why would they not let them look? >> juan: i don't know, but what i think, i remember reading that the fbi initially contacted a low-level person, like an i.t. security guy, and he didn't communicate up the ranks, so i don't know what happened there, but it seems to me there is no question that were hacked. >> harris: one thing that republicans have said and this is a consistent message across the board that i have seen from them, and that is that they have to tread lightly here with this whole topic because it easily could be them who are hacked now. so why not rise up and look at the bigger issue of the vulnerability this far into the game of the internet that we created in this country? the internet, email, all of that, why are we still vulnerable, and when we find problems, like so many giving their password as "password," which actually happened and is ridiculous, how do you, forgive me for saying, but how c

that is how the fbi says it told the dnc it had been hacked.if you take trump at his word, he just doesn't know how any of that works. add it to the list of valuable lessons for donald trump in tomorrow's briefing. joining me now is jason candor, a former military officer in afghanistan and outgoing secretary of state in missouri. and david frumm, reporter for the atlantic. >> it's pretty clear that is what is actually happening here is the president-elect is conducting a misinformation campaign against the american intelligence community. when we talk about the american intelligence community, we should remember this is not just folks who wear ties and testify in front of congress. the vast majority of the intelligence community is the military. it's the army, the navy, the air force, the marines. the sons and daughters of our country who are risking their lives. that's who the presint-elect is not just sayi he don't believe, but is saying cannot be believed. >> you're making a serious assertion there that this is not a new president who is mi

were also pointing a finger at wikileaks, saying that they provided them thousands of emails from the dnc and john podesta. exposing corruption, media collusion with the clinton campaign and downright dirty politics all the way around. in light of all these wikileaks founder, julian assange, in an attempt to set the record street. for four and a half years, he has been confined at the ecuadorian embassy where he has not seen the light of day in all that time. so julian assange of course founded the group wikileaks in 2006, he made international headlines after releasing thousands of u.s. classified documents. he was detained in england after swedish officials issued an arrest warrant that he may have sexually assaulted two women. a charge that he will respond to later in this interview. he was granted asylum in the ecuadorian embassy in the city of london. he has been living there ever sense, and very, very confined tiny quarters. in this wide-ranging interview which we will show for the entire hour tonight, he will expose government and media corruption. >> sean: let me start with the am

were also pointing a finger at wikileaks, saying that they provided them thousands of emails from the dnc and john podesta. exposing corruption, media collusion with the clinton campaign and downright dirty politics all the way around. in light of all these developments, i decided to go straight to the source. so yesterday, i traveled to london to sit down with wikileaks founder, julian assange, in an attempt to set the record street. for four and a half years, he has been confined at the ecuadorian embassy where he has not seen the light of day in all that time. so julian assange of course founded the group wikileaks in 2006, he made international headlines after releasing thousands of u.s. classified documents.20 he was detained in england after swedish officials issued an arrest warrant that he may have sexually assaulted two women. a charge that he will respond to later in this interview. he was granted asylum in the ecuadorian embassy in the city of london. he has been living there ever sense, and very, very confined tiny quarters. in this wide-ranging interview which we will show fo

os like the dnc has to protect themselves better in a world in this nation states are come after us in cyber space. no question he's right about that. now u, on the question of russia's involvement, it's clear from the report that they've got credible evidence that putin ordered influence operation, this isn't the first time the russians are come after u.s. elections. they did it in the war, they're doing it here. the real question is what do you make of it. >> and how do you use this to best serve you, particularly since he'll be sworn in as president in just a matter of days, so here is what former cia director leon pe iannetta says about president-elect questioning intelligence. >> it's impacted on the credibility and impacted on the moral of the men and women who served in our intelligence community. when the quality is questioned, it begins to undermine the relationship between the president and sbel where she knows communities. >> do you agree? >> i totally agree with director panetta. he's completely correct that when you question the motivations and the intelligence, you're

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nobody's talking about the $400,000 the dnc spent digging up dirt to an operative in the ukraine. there is nothing in regard -- and all of the intelligence agencies have concluded that. >> when you say there's nothing here -- >> i mean evidence that changed the outcome of the election. >> you're not disputing that there is a lot of evidence of russia's attempts to interfere in the election? >> i'm not disputing that the russian entities hacked the dnc, but i am -- i'm not going to go back to our interview of a few weeks ago, i will say that when you don't have defenses on your computer system and you basically hand over 50,000 emails obviously that makes it a whole lot easier, and i also think that the clinton folks wasted $1 billion of their donors' money and they've got a lot to answer for and none of this would be happening if hillary clinton would have simply not used a personal server in violation of federal law. >> okay, but mr. priebus does that excuse a foreign government from attempting to interfere in the united states election? >> we've never -- of course not. all of it

the dnc tells buzzfeed the fbi never asked to access servers. a senior law enforcement official told cnn last night the dnc rebuffed request from the fbi and that delayed the overall investigation. donald trump latching on to that earlier buzzfeed report with those tweets jim mentioned trying to sew doubt. the democratic national committee would not allow the fbi to study or see computer information after supposedly hacked by russia. how and why are they sure about hacking if they never requested the examination of the computer servers? >>> and the senior members of the russian government celebrating to the trump victory. how are they reacting to the latest revelations? we have senior correspondent frederik pleitgen with us. i assume they are watching closely. >> reporter: good morning, miguel. i assume they are watching closely and angry and frustrated by the senate armed services committee. it seems they are happy about what they are seeing on trump's twitter feed. especially that tweet that christine mentioned about the servers that the fbi d

this despite the dnc telling buzzfeed news the fbi never asked to access servers.atching on to that report to bring doubt on the intelligence in russia. he writes, the dnc would not allow the fbi to study or see its computers information after it was supposedly hacked by russia. somehow and why are they so sure about hacking if they never requested an examination of the servers? >> as pamela brown noted julian assange denies it was wikileac that provided the stolen e-mails. listen carefully to assange speaking to fox news this week. >> can you tell the american people 1,000% you did not get it from russia? >> we can say we have said and repeatedly over the last two months that our source is not the russian government and it is not state party. >> notice when assange is asked if he got the leaked e-mails from russia, he doesn't directly answer. he said it wasn't the russian government or state party. he never says it wasn't a third party. i would really encourage our viewers to go to cnn.com and read the great analysis of who is julian assange. to remind you and get

last night on twitter also expressing more skepticism about whether russia was involved in hacking the dnc writing, "the democratic national committee would not allow the fbi to study or see its computer info after it was supposedly hacked by russia, so how or why are they so sure about hacking if they never even requested an examination of the computer servers? what is going on?" james clapper and company know that they will space a skeptical audience at trump tower this afternoon, sean spicer, the incoming press secretary, said donald trump will retain an open mind about it all. donald trump going on a tweet storm this morning about a report in several news organizations that he is breaking a campaign promise by going to congress for an appropriation to build the border wall along the border with mexico rather than having mexico pay for it. here's what trump tweeted this morning, "the dishonest media does not report that any money spent on building the great wall for sake of speed will be paid back by mexico later, and in fact." he does have the facts to back that up, listen to what he s

the dnc. after the political party was hacked, they didn't give the fbi direct access to its server and data. the fbi had to rely on a 3rd party. the "new york times" reported that when the fbi first called the dnc staffer to alert them, they thought this was a prank call. they did nothing. when the fbi kept calling, the dnc continued to fail to act and address the problem. so did the democrats who are feigning moral outrage here. if you would have just done your job and fixed the hacking problem back in 2008 and 2009 right in front of your face for years, this never would have happened. with reaction former new york city maria sharapova rudy giuliani. -- mayor rudy giuliani. you deal with this issue on a daily basis. this is a real clear and present danger that we have ignored for over 10 years. am i wrong? >> you're absolutely right. i don't feel like i told you so. 13 years ago, i began warning about hacking with my law firm and my technology and partners black berry. i have been involved f

so i think the case that the russians meddled in the election broadly, not just hacking the dnc, butdly in all the ways jim talked about is solid. >> dickerson: ambassador woolsey let me ask you this question, you mention donald trump's evolution on this issue. when he has been -- when it was first announced that there were these findings he didn't just -- he wasn't just skeptical about the information but made a broader claim about the intelligence agencies, remember this is the crowd that got weapons of mass destruction wrong in iraq, donald trump has said that in his view as the worst blund never american history so he has tied the findings to what he thinks is the worst blund never american history. we have heard reporting that that has not been well received is that right? what is the fallout from that larger claim he seems to be making about the worthiness of the work the intelligence agencies are doing? >> well, it is a complex set of issues. i think probably the .. press and much of the public does think that the weapons of mass destruction characterization was a very -- was

no doubt more successful in dnc than rnc. did hit some republican-affiliated organizations. not current rnc itself. they didn't get in. >> they weren't getting current information, basically? >> not on the rnc they got at state level, some current information but not rnc current. >> okay. you also highlight several other ways the russians have been engaged in our nation as a whole. you mentioned not only the election and previous elections but you also move and give two practical examples of how the russians have been engaged in our political system. one was anti-fracking campaign that the russians seemed to be engaged in. another one was occupy wall street movement that the russians were engaged in as well. any additional highlights or any additional details you give on that? interesting that you highlighted those. can we tell for instance, with the nature of occupy wall street, social media pages created to give communication capabilities to the occupy protesters, how those were used and if they were used? >> probably take that one for the record, senator. just to be, for

just because assange has come out and released information again and the dnc -- embarrassed the dnc. they partnered with hillary clinton over bernie sanders. we saw the turmoil from the e-mails that came out from her campaign chairman. but the bottom line is we are all americans and when you hack democrats one day, it might be republicans the other day. if you hack opm, office of personnel management, and release congressional information or the security clearances of american assets -- >> the chinese did that one. >> that's right. that is a huge problem. we can't say just because today it might benefit republicans that it's good, this is always bad because it will come full circle and impact every single american. wikileaks, again, is no friend to mr. trump, to you, to me, to any american. they do what's best for wikileaks and julian assange who, by the way, is an accused sexual assailant and is wanted and that's why he's held up in the embassy in london. >> you make excellent points. but donald trump himself during the campaign praised wikileaks for releasing all of that informatio

there were no fire works in that report because there was no fire wall at the dnc.arently there was an attempted hack on the rnc, but they had the stuff fire walls in place. cnn's own reporting showed this week that the fbi asked the dnc to have access to its server and to its information and the dnc refused to turn that over to the fbi, according to cnn's own report. so all of this amounts to a very simple fact, that alleged attacks and alleged attempts to interfere with our election failed because number one, donald trump won. if you look at cnn's own polling data, for one year before the election, hillary clinton was viewed by the majority of americans as unlikable and 60% as dishonest and untrustworthy. it had nothing to do with moscow. >> president obama says he has talked to trump about the importance of trusting the people he will rely on like the intel community when faced with tough questions as commander in chief. >> so let's say i'm on the policy wonk end of the spectrum, as much as i can dive into a briefing book and really work to master various subject

totally different issue. >> the leaks were dnc e-mail leaks.plicity. >> i'm saying do you act september the intel community -- >> they have complicity because they didn't protect their networks. >> i'm not saying the dnc did a good job. the responsibility for who is motivating those attacks, i don't get why you're sheltering russia. >> i'm not sheltering russia. one of the reasons i'm excited that congress will look into this, i think they'll get to the truth. the truth is, it's very clear to everybody in this briefing that was done, they point out obvious things that make it clear that this is the russians. if it was obvious, i guarantee you the russians are so good, they are not going to be obvious that they're going to be pointed out. >> hey, paul, was this the easiest segment you've ever been in? >> well, if my fingerprints are on the murder weapon, it's obvious that i didn't do it. >> russia is that good they would not leave their fingerprints. >> this will be a chapter in the next book. >> i hope not. >> the fbi and five other agencies ar

of the dnc that got into the dnc database. we know that somebody clicked on a sight that opened up john podesta's e-mail when it was a fishing expedition. that is the standard entry point that allows malware to get into systems as in the case of target from the hvac vendor into the database. all of these represent vektors into our country in vulnerable areas that whether they're manifested today as in the recent effort with respect to the election, or down the road, they are vulnerabilities that we're going to have to correct and we're going to have to come together in some bipartisan fashion to deal with these. congress has made some modest steps in this area, but there's a lot more that can be done to allow the government and the private sector to work together in a much more concerted finish with the ability to get companies and people to adopt the kinds of cyber practices that are necessary. the point about the internet of things or control systems, both of which have been built primarily without the kinds of protections i

rnc, i the dnc and understand there other entities connected come between the dnc and rnc, with able to penetrate the same level to get the same quantity, quality and type of materials, or was a -- was there a difference between what they were able to glean between the two? widery got far deeper and into the dnc. >> they were able to penetrate deeper? in this form or even a closed form because they do not get into the rnc. that makes it harder to answer. the spearchniques, phishing techniques were used. there is no doubt they were more successful in the dnc. it hits him up -- hit some republican affiliated ordinations -- organizations. level,t at the state some current information, but not rnc current. you mentioned not only the election and previous elections, but you also gave particle examples of how they've been engaged in our political system. one was an anti-fracking campaign and another was occupy wall street. any additional highlights or details you can give on that? it was interesting that you highlighted those. can we tell the nature of occupy wall street, the pages that we

the blame is solely on the dnc.f they had the proper security like the rnc they wouldn't have been hacked. >> bill: let me show our viewers what wikileaks produced. within the dnc and the staff of imagines take. he needs to change his password and immediately he did just that. >> the password password can become like its own meme. if we take a step back the most important thing for any party establishment and campaign is to make the proper training and protocols are in place for incoming campaign staffers. so for example i actually, when the dnc leaks were going on we got a lot of phishing emails. definitely suspicious. it wasn't until google emailed me and said that my emails had been compromised by a third party government that i started taking it seriously and went to the digital team and what is this. their first question was do you have two factor authentication? you log in with your password and they send you a text. how to pick a password and set up the factors could have prevented a lot of the heartache we h

the dnc appears to have done a rather terrible job. we do know from the intelligence community report that the russians did try at least some level to hack the rnc as well. so one could think that they went through the most vulnerable spots. i want to put up a couple of tweets from president-elect trump this morning and the continuing story that's happening in the automobile industry in this country. here is what he said this morning. it is finally happening. fiat chri billion in michigan and ohio plants adding 2,000 jobs. this after he goes on to say in the next tweet ford said last week it will expand in michigan and the u.s. instead of building a billion plant in mexico. thank you ford and fiat chrysler, something is going on. >> it is helping trump establish his presidency before he is inaugurated. clearly after the carrier deal and now this with ford and with fiat, it gives the impression of trump being the man in charge, bringing jobs back to america. even before he is sworn in. look, there are a number of critics who say these j

i think a hack of the dnc was a wake-up call. it is affecting american -- how theem internet affects politics everywhere. our propaganda was not perhaps as powerful as it could have been during the cold war. , forre not very good at it a country that invented advertising. the issue is, how do we get the truth out, and will people believe the truth? i think showing the facts, putting the truth on the table can really undercut an immense russian propaganda effort. you see the chinese trying to buy movie studios or newspapers in hong kong and australia. the other side has figured out, this is an information war and we are a little slow off the block. host: how do you think the u.s. can win the propaganda war? guest: i share the comments that were already made. the issue in terms of confronting russian propaganda, this success is because it is not only propaganda but it is also wrapped around entertainment. russia has developed a sophisticated way of getting his message across, by wrapping it around other types of entertainment progr

we know all this because of the dnc e-mails. out want us to commit to a proposition to make everybody feel better about what? complete the sentence. >> that russia was behind the hacks. you didn't even say the word russia in the last minute and a half. >> i can say russia. i'll say russia a lot. you talk about the dnc. you don't talk about russia. why? >> if i get back the floor here uninterrupted, i'll talk about russia to you. >> please. >> let's talk about russia. in the last couple days of president obama's eight years of presidency, he's going to be tough on russia. seriously? i can't say it without laughing. that's why i'm not saying russia, trying to be respectful. expel 35 russian operatives after months before saying knock it off, vlad. that's all he says. >> that makes it okay for the president-elect to deny rush's involvement. >> it doesn't make it right that we've been so weak on russia. >> what does that have to do with trump not admitting what the intelligence community is clear about. >> he gets his briefing today

it would help you, i guess, to say look, the russians hacked into the dnc. therefore the russians are going to be punished and the democrats can't comfort themselves with the thought that that's why they lost. >> i think that could possibly be true. we know from president obama that he knew in october something was going on with the russians because he tells us later that he told putin to knock it off. i don't know if putin did or didn't. that's the other thing that so frustrating. the politicalization of intelligence. it's putting me and other people in a strangely uncomfortable partisan position. i don't know what the truth is. donald trump says he has more information or different information than the intel community. i don't even know how much of that they can tell us anyway. >> there's one positive thing to get out of this and that we -- if we get past the politics. trump is president and everyone is calming down. we can focus on the nature of the threats. this was some kind of low-level phishing. could have been worse. we have to start thinking about w

. >> i don't think anybody knows it was russia that broke into the dnc. she's saying russia, russia, russia, but i don't -- maybe it was. i mean, it could be russia but it could also be china. it the could also be lots of other people. it could also be somebody signature on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, okay. you don't know who broke into dnc. >> now that president-elect trump has been formally briefed, has he been persuaded that russia did carry out a comprehensive cyber campaign against hillary clinton and what is he prepared to do about it? >> jake, if you read his entire statement that followed the briefing on friday he makes very clear that russia, china and others have attempted to attack different government institutions and businesses and individuals and organizations over a series of time. he specifically mention the the democratic national committee because that's why we're having this conversation can. i don't want any of your viewers to be misled into thinking how the kremlin and the republican party, that they had -- that the kremlin was

the fact that he haddon naah brazil admitting that the dnc lacked the training which allowed all of thismaterial to be released is incredible. >> dickerson: let me go back to donald trump who will be leader of the free world and will have to work with the intelligence agencies, director clearp said there is a difference between skepticism and disparagement, so he categorized the remarks donald trump the made as disparaging of those intelligence agencies, so when donald trump met with the intelligence briefers on friday did he apologize for that disparagement? >> the first thing that donald trump did when he -- after that meeting in his statement was to commend the men and women of the intelligence community, the very first thing he did, the very first thing in his statement but let me just go back for a second, john. when president obama put out the sanctions against russia a week ago, our first reaction was we need to get a briefing on this issue which created, what created this immediate reaction of president obama? and we went into action to get the briefing as quickly as possible on

. >> dickerson: i understand, but he will be president of the united states not the head of the dnc,so on this question of you say is, no one is disputing this but over the last couple of months donald trump resoluting disputed the findings of the intelligence agancies and gone beyond that, not just been skeptical he has compared the findings on this question of russian hack nothing the biggest blunders the intelligence agencies made since iraq and part of a wimp hunt and he has been solid in disputing it so it seems like you are saying he changed his mind. >> i think you are just con nate, conflating two different things, on one thing you have the fact that russia, china, other countries, cyber attacked the united states all the time but on the other hand you also ha before he leaves office after he knew about these things had been going on since 2015 decides to then put out the biggest sanctions we have ever put out on russia in this regard in the history of america, when the chinese hacked the opm, we didn't hear anything that happened after that, so there is a political angle her