dni's lead. every day of every week, month by month, the dni must assure coordination between intelligence agencies to eliminate bifurcation in improve information sharing. he must put in and to programs that are not working and avoid redundancy and overlap. i increasingly believe that this is becoming a major issue. the 2010 intelligence authorization bill reported out again unanimously in revised form last week, which the white house has approved, and the house intelligence committee supports, containing 10 provisions that would strengthen or add management flexibility for the dni. eight of those 10 or requested by this or prior administrations. i urge the house to pass this bill. the primary mission of the dni is to make sure that the intelligence community produces information that enables policymakers to make informed decisions. this mission includes insuring that the department of defense and military commanders have the information they need to carry out military operations and force prote

dni. -- if i am confirmed as the head of dni. with respect to the buildings that have accrued -- most of the buildings -- there is a $2.1 billion facilities that will go in in springfield, va., was instrumental in that and that came about because of the base relocation and consolidation round that occurred in 2005. so, nga facility, the consolidation at under intelligence at quantico, the support agency at fort meade all came about because of the brac grounds. what the business case was is that we got out of leased facilities which overtime cost more than a government-owned facility, not to mention the quality of life working conditions that will demonstratively improved for nga. >> it is my understanding that a contractor cost virtually double what a government employee does and has cost that. we have set as a mark and% reduction per year. -- 10% reduction per year. i don't know that is achievable. i know the cia has tried to be 5%. what is your view on this as to what would be a practical and achievable number to aim for the re

that is what happened before and that dni will never be effective as long as that occurs. host: california is next. barbara on the democratic line. go ahead, barbara. caller: it is so hard to listen to these people. i am telling you. everything is bad. and if president obama fails, we are all going to fail. and if you want to keep up of the same old -- keep the republicans. who started all of this? bush and cheney. and halliburton. all of these contractors have done the killing. no wonder everyone hates us. we go in and we start wars and it is -- i don't know. it is so sad. now some malia. -- somalian. pakistan. has anybody listened about oil and how corrupt. and how about halliburton? and all of these companies? everybody should be happy. united care? in a how much money they made? host: let me stop you right there. you're getting into a lot of different areas. guest: i think a basic fact that most americans recognize is that there are people in the world who wished to hurt us, to kill as many americans as possible because we have had some success in the afghanistan- paki

>> john negroponte, when he was, ah, dni, director of national intelligence, asked me if i knew what a petabyte was. i had know idea. he said, "imagine the entire library of congress, 40 million volumes, 10 thousand new items coming in every day, 535 miles of shelf space, all of that represents 0.02 petabytes. but moving through cyberspace everyday is 640 petabytes." he was trying to demonstrate how it's almost impossible to figure out what the bad guys are up to in that global soup. >> vanda, is there a way to control this? >> well, ah, to some extent. the competition between law enforcement and crime is competition and adaptation. and in many areas, interdiction, ah, the effort to go after the traffickers is frequently lacking because criminals have extraordinary adaptability. in something like cybercrime, this is extraordinarily hard. but i also emphasize that, um, while technology is a great enabler of many positive things in globalization, including the dark side of globalization and crime, much organized crime still takes place through very primitive methods. um, the habala sys

dni is in flux. our recommendation there has been among the most difficult systemic changes to make work. i think that dni has to be rethought by the president. it has not operated as hoped. there are a bunch of reasons for there is huge resistance by the department of defense and the cia to try to strangle the baby in the crib. the president has to take leadership but he has to define what dni should be. its primary mission should be interconnected the among the intelligence communities. one major thing that has been talked about over the last couple of days here, and i really have to commend clark ervin and the aspen institute for putting this together, a tremendous learning experience for me. i appreciate being able to for dissipate. that has to do with civil liberties and the issue of harnessing the tremendous capability we have to collect information, but our need is to assemble that information into some usable form for the best results for americans. i was very active in terms of recommending,

it is a solemn, sacred trust of the dni to make that enterprise work for the sake of this nation and its people. >> brown: he is currently undersecretary of defense for intelligence. he also served as director of the defense intelligence agency in the 1990s. president obama noted that resume when he nominated claper last month. >> with four decades of service to america, jim is one of our nation's most experienced and most respected intelligence professionals. >> brown: the 9/11 attacks led to the creation of the cabinet- level post of director of national intelligence or d.n.i., after the 9/11 commission faulted the intelligence community for a lack of coordination that might have prevented the attacks. the d.n.i. channels all intelligence-related information to the president and oversees the national counterterrorism center or n.c.t.c. 16 separate agencies and departments feed infmation to the center, including the c.i.a., the defense intelligence agency, and the national security agency. but from the beginning, the job has been fraught with challenges. turf battles among intellige

just a few years ago, the dni reflect -- referred to hezbollah as the "a-team" of terrorists. we have heard nothing about them here. could you share your assessment of where hezbollah is at? >> we still do spend time on hezbollah. the fact that we have not discussed it -- we do spend a significant amount of time and manpower looking at it and studying it. as you well know, hezbollah has killed more americans than any other terrorist group and al qaeda -- than al qaeda. hezbollah has evolved as it has taken a greater role in less and it -- in lebanese politics. it has changed significantly. although i still agree with george that, in terms of its capabilities for surveillance and operations and weapons and those things, it is far more sophisticated than al-qaeda and, in that sense, far more able. it does not prioritize and has not chosen to attack u.s. and the homeland the same way the al-qaeda has. i'm confident that they could do something much more complex than by -- as odd -- than faisal shahzad. because of their competing interests and priorities, that is not what they hav

dien night -- dni is in flux. our recommendation there has been one of the most difficult systemic changes to make work. it needs to be rethought by the president. it has not operated as had been hoped. there are a bunch of reasons for it. there are huge reasons. the department of defense and the cia have tried to strangle the baby in the crib. my view, speaking only for myself the primary mission should be one of interconnected the among the intelligence community. one major thing that has been talked about over the last couple of days here, and i really have to commend a few people for putting this together, it has been a tremendous learning experience for me and i really appreciate having been asked to participate. one thing has to do with civil liberties and harnessing the tremendous capability we have to collect them permission -- collect information. but we need to assemble the information in some usable form for the best result for america. i was very active in terms of recommending, during the commission's

when you have the other dni, mike mcconnell, who has been in the intelligence world for so long, who knows bob gates, they know each other, they knew michael hayden, director of the cia, it was a good working relationship between three men who worked together for decades. that is why they were able to come together on some issues and do something about them. as secretary gates said to me in an interview, that is an ad hoc way of doing things. it works when you have the right people in charge. it is not the way congress portrays but they did. host: a picture of secretary gates from yesterday. where was this picture and why was this photograph included? guest: it happens to be a photograph taken for another story, a story about individuals and their long workdays and especially at night. i think he is going out of the pentagon. i have to double check that. host: it looks like a residential neighborhood. guest: whenever we take pictures, we store them in our own database. it is a more personal picture, gives them -- he looks reflective. he is reflected in the stories, too. he and the ci

had that provision not been there, perhaps the dni would have set up at the cia headquarters, would havead a whole staff they're prepared to serve them. instead, they had to get a separate building, a separate staff. so there are bigger forces at play here. also, without minimizing the legitimacy that article raises -- legitimacy concerns the article raises, i think it skips over the fact that we have not had an attack in the country since 9/11. a couple of close calls, but on the whole, the record of attacks on the united states is pretty good. host: 800,000 americans have top-secret clearance. there are 10 down and locations around the united states doing top-secret work -- 10,000 locations around the united states to doing talks paperwork. nsa work has doubled since 9/11, yet there are still close calls. if there are all these people working on this, how come we cannot catch the christmas bomber, as he was dubbed? guest: the director of national intelligence actually called me in one day with other individuals who had experience with the business to take a look at the case. we produce

dien night -- dni is in flux.has been one of the most difficult systemic changes to make work. it needs to be rethought by the president. it has not operated as had been hoped. there are a bunch of reasons for it. there are huge reasons. the department of defense and the cia have tried to strangle the baby in the crib. my view, speaking only for myself the primary mission should be one of interconnected the among the intelligence community. one major thing that has been talked about over the last couple of days here, and i really have to commend a few people for putting this together, it has been a tremendous learning experience for me and i really appreciate having been asked to participate. one thing has to do with civil liberties and harnessing the tremendous capability we have to collect them permission -- collect information. but we need to assemble the information in some usable form for the best result for america. i was very active in terms of recommending, during the commission's years, that we pay close