, head of the dni. want to know about that. and i also want to know about if there's any appetite in the government to finally release also the jfk files. >> well, when i became -- shortly after i became the dni in june of 2020, i was the first one to publicly acknowledge that there was an unidentified aerial phenomenon task force through the senate intelligence committee because i wanted there to be greater transparency to the american people about the number of sightings of things that are unexplained and i know everyone gets caught up on alien life and all of that but my concern as director of national intelligence was, if anyone, foreign adversary, regardless of how you define foreign adversary, that have technology that the united states don't have, we need to find out more about that and what we find, navy pilots and air force pilots were discouraged from reporting that, they thought it would impair their careers. we need to have information if there are technologies out there and very clearly as

i'm honored to be ablena to introduce dni haynes whoe i've known for over ten years. she has had a remarkable and varied career. level of energy and work ethic are legendary. she was sworn in as director of national intelligence on januart female director of national intelligence. during the obama administration she served as an assistant to the president and principal deputy national security adviser from 2015-2017 when she let the national security council deputies committee. from 2013-2015 she served as deputy director of the central intelligence agency. and before that she served as a deputy counsel to the president and national securities, national counsel to the president and national securities, national city councils legal advisor which is when i first met her. dni haines initially joined the federal government as a civil servant and over the last two decades has worked in all the branches of government in and outside of the intelligence community. he's also worked in academia and as a research scholar at columbia university and a senior fellow at the johns ho

have the underlying documents which that assessment is for are we expected to take on debate what the dni concluded with the fbi has concluded and thank you all. >> for the question was whether there's any difference in the way the documents are being handled and i was a every circumstances a little bit different and everyone is a little different obviously with the mar-a-largo, the search warrant was handled more publicly a lot more drama that would have at it of biden or vice president mike pence but basically, everybody who handles classified materials knows you cannot find a supposed to take those materials outside of the skewers setting. i'm not going to go into what the director of national intelligence briefed us on because obviously it was in a secured setting but i will say that there was a lot of concern about the director of national intelligence and the intelligence authorities referring to the department of justice about who gets access to the documents that have been recovered. and obviously, the intelligence committee has responsibility to do oversight and typically in a cr

he would not confirm the reporters whether or not the dni is giving any sort of a threat assessment or a damage assessment or even talking at all about these document dramas. he would only say this. "there is a sense of frustration that justice, the doj, is preventing the committee from hearing what they need to hear. so take from that what you will. he is very frustrated as are other members of this committee. now, the director of national intelligence, the dni director, arvil haynes is inside this briefing right now. this is happening inside one of these scifs that we've been talking about all week, the secure room that is used by senators to review classified information. again, we do not know at this hour whether or not she's talking about any of these document dramas. mark warner, a democrat, had previously requested a damage assessment on former president trump and president biden on classified documents but so far has not gotten one. marco rubio says both are long overdue because he has major concerns. >> there's the concern that these things compose not just a counter intellige

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the dni?ect. >> my understanding is the director of national intelligence position is that the dni, excuse me, doj, attorney general, says this is an ongoing investigation and you cannot get access to those documents but they will stand down. >> dni is doing -- [inaudible] i'm sorry can one question. >> dni is committed to doing a risk assessment, correct? so without seeing the stock with how could they make that assessment? >> that's a good question. >> your reaction from the shooting in california? the shootings in california with the assault weapons ban. do you think that will go anywhere? >> well, i'm going to try. it worked before. produced a number. these weapons are too easy to obtain. they are too powerful for domestic use. it doesn't make any sense to me to have a weapon like this. if you want a weapon for protection jenga when it doesn't do the amount of harm some of these other weapons do. >> your decision -- when will you make a decision by 24? >> probably in a couple of months. [i

i expect the briefing would be delivered by the dni in these same way she briefed them when they made the same request about the documents that have been taken in the mar-a-lago search. i would guess that what the dni provides in that circumstance is not an absolute list of exactly what is in these documents but rather a description of the topics they cover, and more importantly, whether or not they believe there is a risk to national security. >> yeah. that's what they have to investigate. that's a legitimate investigation. let's talk about what has unfolded. this started in november when they found the original batch of classified documents at the president's former think tank, whatever you want to call it, from the university of pennsylvania. i hear that now they had this second batch. so i mean, the key question that we're still asking is, the white house is refusing to answer a lot of legitimate questions. not just that republicans want answered. that the american public wants answered. >> i think one of the problems here is they don't know the answer to these questions. this hap

and and i may help us segregae security classifiable e-mail from routine e-mail someday but if dni haines applied last night, the work of determine how much of the u.s. inspired influence campaign in country x can be released will for years to come be the decision of a human being. release is also labor-intensive. release is the behind the scenes work to get materials from the researcher to the declassify are at the agency to grated -- that great of the record and then back from the declassify or to the researcher with no spillage of secrets in between. i told you this wasn't sexy. but it is super important, and is a a what the national archs does, and until recently the presidential libraries where the vital hub of this dimension of declassifying presidential records. but before this process of release can even start, the researcher needs to know the classified record exists, which means it must be processed. and the fact it is missing from an open file in a researcher must be made clear. this task is called processing and it is even more labor-intensive than release, and is wholly the r

is congress entitled to know as much as the dni or the doj ?erved on intelligence committee together, that is a committee a subset of congress that sees pretty much everything. when you sea i you say is entitle to know i go to system today designated members of intelligence committee maybe select others get to see what was disclosed. i'm not sure if i were looking at a stack the classified information that vice president pence's or joe biden's house, that i would be able to know just looking at it what it is risk was. as you know the danger, if we be a fact a conversation that was occurring to make something right up here in a closed room in north korea, we really don't want the north koreans to know we know that fact, because, gosh they will start to think about who else was in the room. i'm not sure that we as members of congress can get at the real risk. but we certainly do need to know what was exposeed and what is being done about it. trey: you raise another great point. the house does not serve on the intelligence committee, those who did

my concern is the former dni. the fact that classified documents were kept at the house where a drug addict who has colleagues from communist china and unsavory ola guard from ukraine would have access to that. what could possibly go wrong? >> he makes a good point. it's maybe not inadvertent. >> he has a crack addict, hunter biden. he also shared an office with come up by the way, you know, his dad, jill biden and a chinese energy executive with ties to the chinese government. also has a lot of need for money. not just because he has to pay off the strippers and drug addicts. he has ex-wives and strippers demanding child support. his dad wants a lot of money from him. here is the thing, it is not fair. the way that joe biden it is being treated in this circumstance. we don't treat crimes in the same way because of ideology. look at the lawyers that went, you know, joe biden, his lawyers get to go figure out where all these documents are. imagine if giuliani had been picked to go into mar lago and figure out where

incredibly grateful for the dni to come down to give a really important speech i almost have aid to do list or a roadmap for some of the ways to address both the front and of over classification and the backend of declassification. we had a great board meeting appear on stage to address some of the's issues. talking about our goals next year. grateful to share the thoughts from congress we had a staffer in the real senator here which was great. then we had some great panels. so thank you for sticking through for the best panel you may not necessarily believe that from the folks we have appear but we will prove you wrong and grateful you all have stuck around. but again very thankful for everybody here for hosting us in helping us to put on this incredible conference. so thank you. with that long windup just to be more measured and brief about introductions we have three great historians from the government which as a new member i was shocked to understand the government has its own history we have heard from outside historians and academics o and elsewhere columbia university but these

of national intelligence says he is concerned about leaks, but hearing yesterday did not go well for dnith parties not happy. >> ashley: and president biden heading to springfield, virginia today. >> todd: to divert information from the economy. cheryl casone has details. >> cheryl: old strategy that is good, put your attention over here, never mind what is happening over here and attack someone. he will attack republicans today over the economy, which will be interesting. he will go after virginia later today. we have a sense of what he's going to see from fox business and with regard to the economy, he will say biggest threat to progress is maga economic plan that will raise taxes on working families and he will point out there is 30% national sales tax, which has been brought up by some republicans, not majority, make gas prices more expensive, pull from the sbr, and cut social security and medicare. there has been some discussion about raising the age of medicare to 67 and social security benefits, you take at 70, these are not widescale proposals. karine jean-pierre did give us prev

maria: but miranda what about the fact dni is telling the senate intelligence committee to pound sandre he stonewalling the republicans so sure the republicans have all subcommittees going to get to the bottom of the, federal ejections get documents answers, testimony and white house, and all of their agencies are saying no, we're not giving you anything. how should republicans be responding to this stonewall? >> clearly the administration is panicking but just not right i think eventually, doj shadow a little bit of buckling the democrats on intelligence committee are getting irate about being kept in the dark. that is matter of national security not a political issue anymore. this is really, unfortunate to america there maybe nothing there if nothing there what are they hiding but there probably is a lot there, it is very damaging to joe biden. maria: kwoo yeah where does this leave joe biden we've got video from earlier this morning, it shows dozens of migrants outside the watson hotel in manhattan these migrants are refusing to leave they say they want to sleep on the street, rath

classified documents, are authorized not just to access them but to keep them and even to transport them, as dni, i transported classified documents to capitol hill and to the white house all the time. there are always opportunities for there to be an inadvertent mistake. that's not possible with members of congress, with senators, there is no congressman or senator that has anything other than access in a classified and part of their oversight role so the only way documents get into a senator's home is if they took it, willfully, intentionally, deliberately. so, you know, there is no inadvertent mistake when it comes to members of congress having classified documents. >> laura: but he was vice president, right? and his office is being packed up. all the reports are it was done quickly, packed up and some stuff ended up in the boxes. you're saying that's inconceivable? >> it's inconceivable. unlike donald trump, who had classified documents for some 90 days before the national archives notified him, if these documents come from classified documents from his time in the senate, that means that he

. >> we found documents in multiple locations that former dni ratcliffe identified and the question becomes when they were originally delivered after the biden -- the obama-biden administration ended, where were they delivered to, have the documents actually been stored at multiple locations before they were discovered by the president's personal attorney os were they always in the same locations because they were delivered to the residents and to the biden-pence center in washington, d.c.? what was the chain of custody? who had access to these documents, we have a better idea from court filings and we have no idea from the biden matter. there's a lot of troubling questions that still need to be answered in the biden matter where it's only a week old even though it's month's old since the scandal began with the disclosure of the department of justice. jim jordan and speaker mccarthy and darrell issa and others have questions that need to be answer sod they can be satisfied that national security wasn't compromised and the american people have a much better idea what happened. gillian: let's

now, a brand-new report by the office of the dni reveals there have been 510 unidentified aerial phenomenalce august. 171 of which still have no explanation. so doesn't the public deserve to know more about this? just like the government's hidden ball trick related to the covid vaccines and their potential side effects the powers that be have rejected this call for transparency. than you fortunate reality has led a harvard theatrical physicist to implore the government to share it with all humanity. the author of "extraterrestrial" joins me now. professor, it's good to see you tonight. what could independent scientists learn from the data that the government either cannot or will not produce? >> well, the sky is not classified, so we can look at it. we just need to put together a suite of instruments that are as good or even better than what the government has. and we've been doing that based on private sector funding. by now, we have a set -- [inaudible] radio and audio that are basically taking a movie of the sky 24-7, and we are analyze the data with artificial intelligence algorithms. t

office declining comment on whether it too is searching for mishandled classified documents, also, the dni avril hianes debriefing senate intelligence on a skiff. we have fox news peter doocy live at the white house with more. it is good to see you. reporter: lawmakers are trickling out of the meeting, they seem unsatisfied with what they heard. we talk about, scif. it sounds like it is easy to walk out. with a classified file. we found out this afternoon, it is not. >> how hard is it to walk out with classified material? >> everyone who goes in to a skiff, knows what the req retirements are to go in. and knows what the requirements or go out. you can't bring personal devices in and you can't leave with material, unless it is secured. reporter: allegation now is that mike pence, had some unsecured information at his house in indiana, and joe biden had some insect cu -- in delaware, dating back to his days as a senator. that is the detail sta that sticks out even to top democrats. >> i will tell you, when it comes to members of congress and classified documents, we go through an elaborate c

. >> dana: a point brought up today, we are awaiting a national security analysis that the dni is supposed the trump documents. that's never been revealed. byron york brought that up today. and there's a report that hunter was -- they said they can't talk about it. >> greg: you don't want to talk about the president's family. how dare you? what happened to you? he's in the garage. it all makes sense. now the paintings make sense. hunter goes to the garage, gets the classified documents, slips it between the frame and the painting, sells it to the anonymous donors for half a million dollars. who are they? chinese. but we don't know that. hemmer told me this in the bathroom. [laughter] take it for what it's worth, but he's been right on all of this stuff. harold, you say you don't compare it to trump because it's not totally honest. how dare you come back from a splendid long weekend and say something like that? joe was at the height of self-righteousness, so he deserves the wrath. he wasn't just talking about the documents. he blew it up. there was fascism, a threat to democracy, about trum

mike turner has requested from dni damage assessment of the documents found.e said potential violation of laws. do you leave open possibility present biden broke the law? >> all these cases matter. no one is above the law. investigation warranted. u.s. attorney from my hometown selected to do the initial analysis. let that investigation take place. we are doing what the republicans didn't. if there is something wrong needs to be investigated. extraordinary difference in magnitude and scope and clearly the level of cooperation. prosecutors traditionally have handled. intent matters, disloyalty to the united states. almost all of them apply to former president trump. none of them seem to apply to present biden. let's let the investigation take its course. >> thank you very much, congressman, appreciate your time. >> any time. >> next bloodiest battle of the war in ukraine. russia reporting fewer than 100 deaths from the strike. a new phone call shows a different story. >> he says 610 dead. >> first "out front" mayor of el paso meeting with present biden talk to

individuals but keep in mind we may never learn what the end game was for the fbi or the cia or the dniause these are national security investigations that generally do not lead to the criminal arena where we would then hear it played out in a court of laugh. >> jesse: so hunter was useful to the cia or to the fbi. would that mean that hunter was aware of his usefulness or we have no idea? >> so there are two ways income one is there was a lot of liability with respect to hunter biden, with respect to just the way he was behaving and living his life, there may have been an assessment that he may not have been approachable with respect to actually signing him up as an informant or as an asset in a normal course of what we generally would do. but then again, that would be something that would have to be discussed as to whether or not it made sense to approach him overtly and let him know that we want to utilize his relationships and exploit those relationships or are we confident and satisfied that even if he was not aware of our presence that we were surveilling him and paying attention

>> judge jeanine: tonight i'm hosting jawts again dni ratcliffe and tomi labor is going to be on.es who got together and kept pushing out of the way so they could look at themselves in the mirror. the rescue team that was rescuing them got so disturbed by the fact that they wouldn't move and fighting with each other that they had to remove the mirror. that's where you get stubborn mule from. >> greg: what a bunch of asses. [laughter] so anyway tonight on my show kurt metzger, funny comedian, emily compagno, kat timpf and jimmy failla. great show. tune in or face the consequences which means having to be up early and watching "fox & friends." >> brian: that's it? >> dana: all right, geraldo? >> geraldo: muhammed ali would have been 81 years old today. i once visited him at his deer lake pennsylvania training camp. it was a riot. i got to spar with the champ. where's the video? do you have the video? interest it is. all right, here he is. >> represents peace. this is valor. >> brian: wow. that's unbelievable. >> dana: brian, can you do it in 20 seconds. >> brian: turned around the n

statement from the district upper arlington school superintendent saying, "while we remain committed to dnial race is not part of the academic program. the district follows the state standards and all laws related to public education. your response. >> my response is, you can say that you don't have a critical race theory, but when you use the terminology of white privilege or using the terminology of microaggressions. you know, just even the basic diversity, equity, and inclusion sounds good, but that is under the umbrella. we have social emotional learning, which that is the crt is going through that as well. >> todd: how do parents make sure these school districts understand that parents are the ones in charge of children and not the government? >> you need to attend school board meetings. you need to do my cold your school board members and find ap of people who are like-minded as strength in numbers. and then you also feel like, okay, i'm not the only one dealing with this. and through our upper education coalition, people sent us information. we hear about incidents come about books t

intelligence committee that the top ranking members on there, the democrat and republican, are calling for the dnito give them more information on these documents. they want a damage assessment on what it means that they were out there. this is very similar to what they did, in fact it's the same, as what they did after the mar-a-lago documents were found with former president donald trump. republicans are eager to pounce on this. house speaker kevin mccarthy saying that democrats have to eat their words, is what he said, on this issue. then hearing from house democrats as well who say these are two different issues. biden and his team handled this differently than trump. they should be looked at in different ways. that's what we're hearing on the hill. more to come. the senate is out right now. we'll hear more when they get back in. >> let's turn to republican congressman george santos. what do you call him truth challenged? >> truth avoiding. >> nassau county republicans are calling for him to resign, jessica. they want him to leave because of the lies about his resume, his personal life. let's

the dni admiral haines was supposed to be doing intel assessment of the document from mar-a-lago. we have yet to see that. i don't know how long it will take. i don't think it should take this long. should the same be applied to biden? >> of course, yeah. i mean, there needs, dana, to be a damage assessment for national security purposes irrespective of who is involved and whether anyone ever gets prosecuted. the most important thing here is if you have top secret documents where you could lose methods and sources of intelligence if they fall into the wrong hands, for the country's sake the intelligence community has to assess that regardless whether it's trump, biden or whoever it is. >> bill: thank you. we'll call on you about every day this week, i think. thank you so much for running us through that with us today. >> dana: when you are lawyers this is good for business. the biden private lawyers now we have more to do. >> bill: paid by the hour. hang onto that phrase what andy said. what's an item? is it a document or is it a docks of what could be documents? right now we don'

can conduct investigations that will show some of these details and, you know, judge, as the former dni you know, i would be doing the national security damage assessment. in the case of joe biden, as we have just talked about, that's why it's gotten so much worse. everything that we have talked about the implications, you know, part of that calculation, judge, is not just the number of documents, top secret documents but who may have potentially had access to that. in the case of hunter biden, you have ukrainian oligarchs. chinese communist party associates. have you paid prosecutes. have you all sorts of unsavory characters at locations that we keep finding day after day. will worrying about government and the doj and the fbi tilting the scales in favor of one party. anyway, it's good to talk to you john ratcliffe. thanks for joining us. >> good to see you. >> judge jeanine: all right. coming up. so much for russian disinformation. turns out of the intel chiefs who smeared hunter's laptop knew it was real the whole time. . why are 93% of sleep number sleepers very satisfied with their

>> jesse: similar to the attitudes when he came out and said not giving answers from the dni about whatments is not something we are use to. bipartisan outrage is the same thing. >> jessica: here's what happens when there is bipartisan outrage, you can't go to the corner and say my team is okay with us. if team members are not okay with this. the american public is frustrated with it. at 70% of americans have a problem with what happened and it doesn't mean that joe biden is guilty of something mischievous, but the they want answers to this. >> brian: in makes you think he's hiding something. >> jessica: leaving doors open is a problem and dana last week hit the nail on the head. she said this point about john p are not given enough information that she needs to go and say to the principles and who ever. if you think john kirby is better than me then let john kirby go and do this. i was talking about assistance to ukraine and then a more open and more honest conversation with the press than she had the entire time. i'm not saying there are not limitations placed on her by the council's

that would be up to the dni and the threat assessment that's ongoing, the damage assessment. i think what this really shows out of both administrations is a cavalier attitude towards classified information and protecting that information. >> and on that note, shan, you know, the president's attorneys made it clear that they were proactive, that they offered to the fbi, to doj, to come into the home and to search it. but the reality is, especially given that there's a special counsel investigation, the fbi would be the ones to go in the home and do a search and collect information. the investigators wouldn't just rely on the attorneys with no security clearance. if that offer hadn't been given, the fbi would have either worked something out or had to get a search warrant, right? >> or they could have, as you alluded to earlier, gotten the grand jury subpoena for the documents. sometimes if i'm defending a client we actually want the subpoena because it gives a certain amount of process, protection for the documents being turned over, rather than saying, i'm an attorney, i did

the dni comes in, this was a scheduled briefing, and she goes, you know what, i don't even know whatts say. she's walled herself off from the documents. so it looks like the department of justice is the only one that has any idea what's in these documents, and that's not fair, because the senate is supposed to do oversight to see if there's an intelligence compromise and mitigate that somehow. they're being cut out of this thing. if you're hunter biden, you have documents on the dining room table, in the garage, they have a birthday party that day, he stays out till 2:30 in the morning, i lost my key to the house, can you on the backdoor so i can come in? this is the same time he's bribed by the chinese, same time he's fooling around with the stripper, and he of all people is losing his house keep, while the documents are out in the garage, on the dining room table. if i was a senator, republican or democrat, i'd want to know what's in those documents. >> brian: if it's country first. everything has been party first. who else doesn't want to know what's in those documents they found?

the department of justice and dni can make recommendations to congress and then congress can pass a bill to make sure that this doesn't happen in the future. >> you called for a bipartisan look into how president biden ended up with classified documents at his home saying earlier this week no one can defend this. as you heard from manu, this republican-led congress is already starting two investigations at least into how president biden handled classified documents, do you trust your fellow congressmen to open an equally fair investigation into how this happened with both republicans and democrats. >> i think that should be the inquiry and i hope that's what they'll do. in full context of president biden, president biden has shown extraordinary character by cooperating right away, being fully forthcoming, opening his home to a search and i think he's handled it as well as he can and it looks like vice president pence, from appearances, as soon as he found these documents is cooperating. that i think is what people need to realize in stark contrast to what president trump did. >> a year a

. >> the position the dni has taken on the topic is untenable.it cannot be their answer is we can't tell you what was discovered until the special counsel allows us to tell you. >> john: the justice department says tg now working to brief the senate intelligence committee on the trump and biden classified documents, after more transparency, leadership wants to see the actual documents, not just briefed on them. john cornyn is a member of intelligence committee and joins us now. looks like the intelligence committee will get a little satisfaction, the assistant attorney general saying we are working with the office of the director of national intelligence to support the provision of information that will satisfy the committee's responsibilities without harming the ongoing special counsel investigations. from what you know of what the doj is trying to facilitate, is that satisfactory? >> this should have been the initial posture of the department of justice. it's completely unacceptable as they pointed out for the biden administration saying we are

. >> a briefing by the dni and congressional lawmakers. >> the administration's stonewalling. >> presidenten today is going to discuss economic progress. more americans find them -- >> the latest with massive layoffs. >> the labor force to drop out. >> willing to overlook some awful [bleep]. >> gaslighting viewers about violent riots. >> there is a blurring of the line and the use of the word violence. >> lighting court houses and schools on fire. it was mostly peaceful. speak with the domestic policy reversal regarding the ukraine. >> the equivalent of one ukrainian tank. >> what is our goal? i don't see any path to drive russia out. >> check out the bottom right of your screen. >> who order the burrito? >> i like how the referee is talking to him, like how cool is this supposed to be? ♪ ♪ >> steve: that look so pretty. let the good times roll on this thursday. live from virginia beach. you know what, you see that and wouldn't it be nice to walk along the beach and stick your toes in the water? absolutely! they are wearing wet suits because currently it is 47 degrees down there, daytime h

of the said intelligence committee wants to see these documents, they say enough is enough but the dniaid no, she basically said no and what we have is a letter to newts gingrich, before speaker of the house from the lawyers investigating this and they'rebe telling us 180,000 boxes of the documents to fill ale tractor-trailectr and 415 gigabytes of electronic records but the university of delaware will not release who funded theh archival in the maintenance ofiu these documents, wasn't c communishit china? >> that's a reasonable inference, certainlyy what joe biden communist china paid millions of dollars to fund whah he was doing communist china paid hunter biden in the bideno family billions of dollars soco there's a long history ommf communist china writing checks. the fact that the university of delaware is trying to keep the document secret it said it's not good to release any of them until two years after biden leaves public office. i think that's unacceptable. let me say the content of these documents last week the, administration brief theanmemb intelligence committee and i got

dni and intervened. he says it explicitly this from page 24 jeff berman's book. >> he said quote, -- even though is not seen the cohen case, i saw the deal with the other issues driving from it, may just sense as to get interference. -- the information rather than indictment. that was the title of the documentary was referencing here, of 40 pages long, he says, and a reference to person identified as individual, one and seven acted in concert with michael cohen. he, says quote, there's zero doubt as to the identity of individual one, nostalgia. trump promises consistent with doj guidelines we first submitted the information to the public integrity section that main justice, where then sent a copy to the deputy attorney general the time, todd rosenstein informing him that is -- the next >> day the prosecutor my office he was aggressive, he knows they now that cohen is pleading guilty, we don't need all this description of the climb. prosecutor responded, what exactly are you concerned about, rosenstein's

i sit on the dni committee, as you mentioned before.d that generally, traditionally, has been a pretty nonpartisan place. and they do really good work there. >> i want to ask you about your fellow congressman, george santos, a fellow republican. the lies he told voters. do you think he should resign? >> i do, actually. i mean, this is an individual that fabricated their entire life story. their entire resume to get elected. if you want to talk election fraud and we can look no further than new york's third congressional district right now. but everyone is allowed to due process. if he were to be expelled that would be a process that would have to be initiated in the judiciary committee. with a full vote of the committee. with a resolution. i don't see that happening at this juncture. but one of the things that we know, and this is true on both sides of the aisle. the american people have a lot of distrust in washington. and in congress. they see a lot of division. and if we are gonna hold the left to a standard, then we ought to hold ou

that's how i began the show yesterday on sunday morning futures, the stonewall from the dni and thisicans and democrats. they say we f need to understand what the documents are, what we're talking about but she said no. so i guess she's going to, you know, i don't know if that stands or mark warner said that a just cannot stand but i want to get your take also about 2024 and what this all means. you have florida govern for ron de santis and his advisors reportedly preparing for a 2024 white house run. we expect that he's going to wait until the legislature business is over in florida before he announces. president trump of course kicking off his re-election bid this past weekend, speaking in south carolina and new hampshire on saturday. byron, you were there in south carolina. what can you tell us about what you saw from donald trump? >> well, it was an extraordinary trump event in the sense that it was small. it wasn't really huge. it was small by design. it was held in the main lobby of the state capitol in columbia and they had invited about 500 people who were well connected poli

if that is the case, they will reach out to the dni's office, the cia's office and talk to the official there's that work on these issues to try to figure out whether any of the information contained inside of that could pose -- could be of interest to u.s. allies and add very -- adversaries across the globe. >> martha: how does that act as punishment for being in places they're not supposed to be? >> sandra: there's the criminal element. there's the presidential records act that dictates how classified archival material needs to be landed and basic national security policy that is laid out to every person in the u.s. government who has a clearance. i will tell you, i was 23 when i get my clearance. if we're asking, we meaning the u.s. government is asking 23-year-olds to responsibly manage the nation's intelligence secrets, there's a reason why the president is subjected to the same rules. >> martha: we would trust you, gillian. thank you. john would not. >> 23? i don't know if i would have trusted me. that's another story. john so politically, you know, this information that they came

. >> wait, this is from put the 17, the dni put on the put the number at like three than, you think it's -- >> it's almost five now including contractors. >> which is more than 1% of americans. one out of 100 americans. >> it is a staggering number of people with access to the secrets, which isn't surprising giving how much is classified and on many people have access to the secrets that the national security bureau just can't keep track, and that's a terrible thing for national security. it's a terrible thing for public debate about issues that really matter like war and foreign policy and counterterrorism, all those things, a debate about all those things gets sorted by overclassification. >> by that point, this is one of the most interesting things to watch, we had someone on the program, i said, is no like a library? when you keep a library book, the library knows yet the books. libraries will follow you to the ends of the earth. sorry brian university, i think there are some in my bookshelf. there's nothing like that. shouldn't there be some record? again, particularly pertaining to

dismissive administration in recent memory, including today's ill-fated attempt at a briefing by the dni. and tom cotton says he is going to slow down confirmation of all of mr. biden's nominees until congress is allowed to review the classified documents found at the homes of both biden and former president trump. he's accusing the administration of stonewalling congress, and in response he says senators will impose pain on the administration until they provide these documents. and that is coming from both parties. >> it was very unsatisfying. i think i speak for every member of the committee. >> every member of the committee, regardless of democrat or republican, or unanimous in that this position, that we are left in limbo until somehow a special counsel designates that it's okay for us to get briefings. it's not going to stand. >> boy, the sharks are circling right now. also tonight, the administration has reversed field and agreed to supply powerful abrams tanks to ukraine, a major policy reversal, which also coincides with germany's plan to send the government in kyiv a number of i

everybody from the dni to the fbi director to dhss at the primary terrorist threat today and the most lethal sustained threat is from individuals of small groups here in the united states. we still have al qaeda and the foreign terrorist organizations were a real threat but in terms of lethality, that is the main threat so we are focused on that and we see ourselves as any tickle role in that effort because domestic terrorism of that type with violent extremists, they are the kind of targets where state and locals are the first to find out about them. they need our strategic intelligence to know what to look for on the street and we need to get from them what they are seeing so we can couple that with intelligence from other parts of the country and zero in on the bad guys. i'm talking about people who are engaging in violence, that's the key. we are heavily involved in that including our collection process. also our open source collection where we target collection against people who are fomenting violence. that's an area where we see an expanding role with an expanding threat. >> i'

. >> according to report from the dni, director of national intelligence back in 2017, the potential for more than 1 million people have access to top secret information, with many more access to lower levels of classification. who is policing those people in realtime to be able to ensure that they will not take things home to them? should there be 1 million people with top secret access? >> a long part of the problem with overclassification is probably too many people have the sorts of clearances. there is something that we have to point out here, anderson. it's the overwhelming majority of people who have clearances do not run into these sorts of problems because they can only look at and work with classified materials at work in their work space. places that are authorized to store the sorts of documents. when your low level person in the intelligence community, you don't take anything home. if you have to look at something in the middle of the night, you drive back into the office. it's not the same for principles of organizations. presidents, vice presidents, heads of executive

the dni, director of national intelligence won't give congress any information about the documents.pertains to foreign adversaries. i don't know. the chinese gave a $30 million contribution to university of pennsylvania at the same time the biden center is being stood up. is there a connection? i'm sending a letter out tomorrow to the state department, secretary blinken asking for what communications, what contacts were made, what were these documents? were chinese officials at the biden center? the fact that they're in the garage with a corvette and in a home where hunter biden is recovering, and he took a picture on his laptop of important documents, i just think, dana, there are a lot of unanswered questions. >> just for the record, university of pennsylvania said the chinese money did not go to the biden center. we don't have any evidence of hunter biden being related to this at all. >> but they gave a thousand talp talents programs, tha classic way of -- >> i have to ask you. we're almost out of time. the debt ceiling. you voted in the past to raise the debt ceiling, in fact th

gop house intelligence asking dni avril haines for u.s.ligence damage assessment, citing potential violations of laws. let's watch the president on all of this. president biden: i don't have access to classified information anymore. i don't get briefed by the agency as i did for eight years. [shouting questions] president biden: four years after being vice president i was a professor at penn. they found some documents in a box, you know, locked cabinet, or at least a closet. surprised to learn that there were any government records that were taken there to that office. but i don't know what's in the documents. elizabeth: they were in his closet at his office. do you not know what is in your closet in your office. by the way he was not a professor at upenn. do you believe him on this? >> i don't know what to believe. i can believe that he wouldn't know what kind of documents he has because i have a lot of questions as to who makes a lot of the decisions in this white house quite frankly. but at the end of the day the fact that they were in

>> lili: the support of inclusion, dni awakening by the way at the core of my business and what i doot it. you want to show people the facts so you can make informed decisions and be shown, especially as children what to think based on the fact and not how to think. it is where it is a very gray line. we absolutely want to honor the contributions and celebrate the tapestry of america, which includes black history in every facet from music and entertainment, history, politics, business spirit but this is not that. here is the danger, headlines because nobody reads these things, you go through and say desantis is banning african american studies. you stop there. don't say gay act and things like that. >> harris: that is not true. >> lili: so you have to re-inform parents, absolutely, mollie, read between the lines. what is that about not celebrating, eliminate the contributions of african americans when clearly it is not meant other things that are political ideologies that will confuse kids in an era where they are already confused. >> harris: you know what, let's put the confusion to

the dni, the director of national intelligence won't answer our questions. so i don't know what these documents per train to. the documents were there. china gave a $30 million contribution to the university of pennsylvania at the time the biden center is standing up and just a lot of unanswered questions. this broke a week before the midterm elections and they swept it under the rug. now we're just finding out. >> do you think they'll be tremendous political fallout? >> i don't know. watergate started as a very small burglary and it led to the president of the united states resigning, so i don't know what's there until we see the documents. if there are national security documents relating to foreign nation adversaries particularly china. china is in that biden center -- >> what about president trump? that's very different. when you look at that. that wasn't a consensual search. they tried to keep some of those documents away from investigators, how do you compare them? >> the way i look at it, my wife is a naval intelligence analyst, if she took one docume

and so it's clear that if the senators are not going to be getting these answers with the dni citing the special counsel, then it's also unlikely that the house side is going to get answers. we'll see what that escalation looks like if it means that they're going to try to escalate from requests to subpoenas, all of that is sort of on the table as we're in the very early phases of finding out that these documents exist and figuring out how congressional oversight of this is going to work. >> so we do have a little bit of sound from senator tom cotton. let's listen. >> i'm prepared to refuse consent or fast track any nominee for any department or agency and to take every step i can on every committee on which i serve to impose consequences on the administration until they provide these documents for the congress to make our own informed judgment about the risk to national security, if any, of these documents being present outside of secure facilities. >> so, ali, take us a little bit more inside, if you can, to this meeting we can with avril haines and the reason behind not by vujing

. >> dni lawmakers fueling. >> president biden today is going to discuss economic progress.t company to announce massive play offs. >> this is about freedom. >> policy reversal regarding ukraine. >> u.s. is sending 31 abrat of n tank battalion. >> what is our goal? i don't see any path for ukraine to be able to drive russia out. >> willing to overlook some awful. >> joe rogan calling out the

they say enough is enough, but the dni said, no.ust basically said no, and what we have here is a letter to newt gingrich, the former speaker of house, from the lawyers investigating this, and they are telling us that there's 1,850 boxes of the documents, enough to fill a tractor-trailer, and the 415 gigabytes of electronic records. but the university of delaware will not release who paid, who funded the arkansas k50eu68 -- archival maintenance of these documents. was it communist china? >> well, that's certainly a reasonable inference. it seems joe biden, certainly when joe biden went to penn, communist china paid millions of dollars to fund what he was doing. we also know they paid hunter biden and the biden family millions of dollars, and so there's the a long history of communist china writing checks. the fact that university of delaware is trying to keep these documents secret, in fact, it's saidst not going to release any of hem until two years after biden lees public office -- leaves public office, i think that's unacceptable

. >> the position the dni has taken is untenable. >> former federal judge, michael mukasey is here. good to see you. thanks for being here. >> good to be here. >> so what do you make of the argument from these members of congress? tom cotton went on to say in there that basically they have a absolute right to every single document or item or photo or box or picture or map that was in these residences. the three former presidents and vice presidents. >> the fact that this is being investigated by a special counsel does not interfere with the right of congress to get answers to their questions. if that's the excuse that's being used, then the senators are right. >> martha: i mean, the stonewalling argument is strong here. every time the press secretary comes out, she's stonewalls the questions even if they don't relate directly to the information in this case. can they get away with this for much longer? >> that's a political question. i don't know how much longer they can get away with it. the fact is that the existence of an investigation does'prevent the white house from discussing

it comes after the dni refused to answer senators in a briefing friday citing the special counsel's investigation. >> this is a little better but, frankly, it's not going to be acceptable until we get access to all the classified materials. >> still, the doj is refusing requests from house judiciary republicans about the timing and process of their investigation into biden saying it would put the investigation at risk and potentially create the appearance, quote: that congress may be exerting improper political pressure or attempting to influence department decisions in certain cases. the white house counsel's office not holding new briefings but sharing talking points passing reporters a cbs poll that shows 54% of americans think the president's handling the investigation well. and biden spending his time promoting achievements like the infrastructure law today in baltimore. >> we're going to invest over $4 billion to replace existing baltimore potomac. >> even though a tweet touting his electric vehicle tax credit shows him in $86,000 electric hummer that doesn't qualify for the program. >> a w