(laughter) >> stephen: i'm wondering how you get new muppets, is all i'm asking. how doew muppets? >> i'm a big boy. >> stephen: we're all adults here. >> well, i don't actually -- i haven't performed there the muppets for many years and when i did i didn't make the characters. there was a tremendous amount of people who were very talented who were the workshop who made the characters. >> stephen: so that's where the action is. >> i can't tell you what actually happens there, whether there's action or not. >> stephen: it's a family show. >> but it was done in the workshop. >> stephen: okay, good. you were famous for directing "little shop of horrors." >> i am. >> stephen: it's a cult classic from 1986. >> around there. >> stephen: 25th anniversary of the movie is coming. there's a new ending on the end. >> yes. well, it's the original ending. >> stephen: not the ending i saw. i saw it in the theater, it had a happy ending. >> it had a happy ending, but the original ending-- which is about a million dollars worth of work by richard conway-- was excised about 25 years ago