the new attention and focus by dod is only part of the puzzle, though. dod success in helping in response to a disaster will ultimately be determined by civil authorities and their ability to properly plan their initial response and then the means by which dod capabilities are requested and properly employed. we know dod is in support of civil authorities and the real burden to that effective support is going to be sound planning to ensure we're properly directed and we can best benefit or provide benefit to the need of the place where we're supporting. the guidance now being given will drive training and exercises. and recognition of our effectiveness at providing relief for our fellow citizens does require preparation. vice admiral beeman spoke emphatickly of readiness yesterday. readiness is no accident but is a deliberate outcome of focus and hard work. dod is now stepping up to the plate in a very formal and direct way but this will only work as well as our local state and federal civil authorities partner with us to ensure our capabilities are know

relationships are about mutual respect which we covet, especially in the dod realm. we do that through training and meeting together. one of our things we're very proud of is on an annual basis we get together and we conduct a 3-day training exercise as well as squadron level training: the first day of the exercise is a telecon exercise to make sure when they pick up the phone they are talking to the commander, whether it's navy or marine corps. we discuss our local letters of agreement, what they can and cannot do, how we stay within the box of dsca and ir and what the culmination is with a fire drop where we're dropping watter. we conduct aircrew briefings simply because cal fire recognizes that you great folks have a primary mission, that's defense of the nation and we respect that and we understand this is an ancillary job and there is a high revel of rotation of people coming back from afghanistan or iraq, whatever the case may be, but we also reach out to squadron level training. it really comes down to meeting with your cooperating agencies and training togeth

but dod is just getting interested right now. the last couple of years. and what they hope to get is everyone leaves a digital trail. increasingly, around the world, everyone has smart phones, cell phones, computers, and increasingly, those trails, the thinking is, can provide insight into intelligence that otherwise wouldn't be obtainable. it is like talking to the entire world at once. but it is not as if they can read every little bit of data out there. they have to have powerful tools to examine what is out there. and understand what they need. >> some of this is trend alice for example, when have you large -- trend analysis for example when you have large crowds and folks are use the information. what are some of the tools that the intelligence agencies are using to be able to mine all of this information that is out there? >> first of all, they neat to get it all. -- they need to get it all. one of the ways they get it all is twitter. twitter sells a product to a very few companies call the twitter, the full twitter fire hose, and that fire hose ter

. >> so from a perspective of fema, we not only have a defense officer appointed by dod embedded with us during a disaster but we actually practice and have communications interoperatability over our systems to be sure we can communicate with each other on similar platforms and also support state and local platforms, whether it was katrina or other events we've actually been able to bring in national guard platforms to provide 911 systems for cities that have lost those systems. we recently in the joplin tornados and also tuscaloosa tornados we brought in dod equipment to replace what was destroyed. from the fire side i know there's a lot of things you are doing to work around the interoperatability issues with regard to communications between fire and dod and maybe if ray or anybody else wants to speak to that. >> our communications challenges still exist. we have excellent telecom communications, we have a layered effect of our radio systems. we have mobile command posts that we can exercise. so we're prepared for power outages, reduction of telecoms, we have a layered effect for ou

maybe we can talk about how is the national guard and dod resources and capabilities integrated into the command and control at the fire and also the supporting ops centers whether it be the gac or other centers down there. maybe our military personnel can talk about that, or ray. >> it's important to note that we are the supporting effort to cal fire and we get called in when they are basically out of assets. we are working for cal fire, they are the incident commanders, we follow their coordination, typically we're the last ones in and the first ones out. we do have an on-going relationship with cal fire, i'm in contact with cal fire all the time. we have good situational awareness what's going on in the state of california. they normally put us in an alert stat us so we're prepared to respond in an attack mode. i don't often work with chief chaney in southern california, about a month ago we had 9 aircraft at our peak working fires throughout northern california if that answers your question. >> any other responses? >> i wanted to touch -- can you hear me now? i wanted to touch on

there's a variety of dod resources that cal fire can provide in a statewide environment. i think the biggest thing for me, there's several scenarios that are challenging us, one of which and one of our fears, and it's been in the newspaper so it's not a secret, but one of the things that scares me as well is the united states is not really experienced what i would call a global disaster yet. we have had disasters, i was in katrina on an urban search and rescue team, i've been in pretty much all major engagements as far as wild land fires in california, but if you look at a global disaster perspective where you have a hundred thousand victims like a tsunami or a large scale event, we have yet to experience that in this nation. i think the agreements we have here today and the relationships we develop today are going to be key to mitigate that. the other scenario that we are concerned with is a coordinated aerial incendiary attack by al qaeda. one of the things we've seen already in the european union is suspect of al qaeda starting fires in the eu if that happened in calif

it will be a joint effort between the dod medical community and the -- va community. we have comprehensive strategy on how to deal with it. >> i think that, you know, just on that issue alone, the, you know, dealing with the problem, obviously it involves providing some prescription drugs but at the same time it should also provide a series of other ways to try to assist people that are facing this problem consultation, other assistance, other guidance to try to help people, you know, the ability of others to spot the problem whether it's depression or drug addiction or whatever might contribute to problems they're confronting. but clearly i think, you know, we want to make sure that the prescriptions are being provided are the ones that are sufficient, to meet the problem and don't go beyond that. on the issue of related to syria, there's not much more to be said other than that, you know, president is made very clear that the assad regime ought not to make a mistake of thinking somehow it can use chemical weapons on the own people and get away with that. there will

maybe we can talk about how is the national guard and dod resources and capabilities integrated into the command and control at the fire and also the

for you so we had 3 different com spans that are cross banded, which is an opportunity that not all dod assets have. they have civilian internet and that is their primary mission, is to cross band between the military and civilians. it worked very well because the command and control element were on an ip common operating picture. some of our challenges were the radio communications. we got cross banded with san francisco but bringing in commercial satellite down to the marine force that would be on the ground was one of the challenges that we had to work through after the event. it was successful but it's something that in planning in an emergency we need to make sure that the correct satellite assets are down to the end users, the people on the ground. >> hello, so we had a lot of success i think we talked about, at least at the ocean beach location we were able to get the ip internet communications with web eoc, we had really good telephone communications, you know, with our blackberries, our smart phones and some satellite phones. i think from at least the city's perspective our big

when i say dod, please don't take it the wrong way, i'm encapsulating the entire family. when we throw a party, we go big. we don't do little things very often in san francisco but every hundred years or so, we do it in a big way and you know what, the bay area is overdue. we're going to need every player at the table. that's one of the best things we do with these exercises is getting to know what's available. with that i will ask the medical panel to come up so we can get the next part started here. >> thanks for that introduction, rob. as we started our last panel with, what i'd like to do is have our panelists introduce themselves so you can again understand their perspective and the lens they were looking through when they went through yesterday's medical exchange. >> my name is nadine baba, i am with the san francisco department of public health, unfortunately dr. karen holbrook couldn't be here. i work in the emergency preparedness section and our section is responsible for medical surge events in the city. yesterday's exchange was really helpful in forwarding that

so, samhsa is not, um, getting in the way either va or dod doing their appropriate mission. but we are partners with them in the sense that both state authorities and behavioral health and community service agencies are understanding this population. and so, our role is to, is to certainly educate our partners in cultural competence of what it means to be in the military and get those individuals like folks that jen works with in terms of the professionals understanding what it means to be, ah, in the military and the military culture and the military environment and seeing themselves as partners, so that if an individual chose not to use either va services or other services, we would make sure they were aware of those services, but that our community providers would also be available to provide behavioral health-particularly focused on substance abuse disorders, addictions, and mental illnesses. and that happens quite often, you find a lot of military and veteran personnel who don't want to go to the federal agencies. they don't want to go to the va because we're afraid of

they need dod at their fingertips and can work quickly to process that claim. we also discussed something that is it tough challenge for both departments which is an electronic health care record integration. the ability to bring that information together across our two departments is extremely important for our medical professionals in order to provide the best care possible. this is obviously a challenging effort. this is really a tough effort, but we're continuing to work at it and confronting a dod plan for accelerating the program to try to integrate our health care systems happen and weaponment to beat the schedules we established as targets here. we ask the plan be established by early january. in november, i had a positive meeting with military and ngo members, and i promised them i would work with the secretary to discuss diagnosis, access to mental health, outcomes for the hidden wounds of war, and that's what we've been doing. we did it again today. i'm pleased we're ready to join the president, joint recommendations in the area within the next three

we've underwritten joint va-dod medical facilities where they make sense, harmonizing our acquisition we've committed both departments to a single common, joint, integrated record, the iehr, which will be open in architecture and non- proprietary in zip. today, veterans wait too long to get the benefits they earned, and that's request we are streamlining information and departments. at va, support dod's implementation of the president's initiative to redesign the transition assistance program so that it is mandatory, seamless, and productive. the new program provides a warm handoff from service member to veteran status to ensure all who have served are prepared to transition into civilian life, and that they have access to va benefits and services they have earned. with his executive order to improve access to mental health services, president obama continues to demonstrate his commitment to veterans is running deep. we work side by side to ensure that service members and veterans receive care they earned. secretary panetta, again, thank you for your leadership andq partnership, and i

if they were so good, the dod wouldn't need their own spying agency and that's why this is happening.questions here. is it going to work and two, what is it going to cost? is this going to be more expensive or less expensive than a congressional kind of force? >> they got about $100 million to kick-start this problem but they've been told you have to do it without any increase in your budget for five years. they're eliminating existing position and converting them to condestine, spying positions. that's where this has gone. >> you guys want to talk about hot money that sloshes around the globe? hot black money sloshes around washington like it's nobody's business especially when it comes to the dod and intelligence xluntcommunities. $100 million isn't even going to get them out of the garage. >> i get your point. we did a story about a missing billion dollars for iraq. like things go missing. but is the money better spent on a group of spies, a drone, a missile -- like what's the most effective use of money to remain safe? >> the most effective use is to put it where we don't have any

to discuss lessons learned and corrective actions taken over the past decade with years of focus on dod support to civilian authority with relation to wild fires. populations continue to spread into formerly wild areas i want to focus on how our capacity on wild land fire has improved over the past decade. in getting ready for this discussion, i did have the opportunity to participate in the 2003-2007 wild fires, i went back and looked at a lot of lessons learned, the governor's blue panel commission report looked at also a lot of those kind of things and what i did was just put a picture up there to show you the 2007 wild fires. when we get to these major wild fires, we're talking about multiple wild fires and almost what you would call a fire storm. a lot of the lessons learned there are in bullets from just 2007. why this discussion is important and lessons learned up there, the 2007 fires burned a little over 500,000 acres, destroyed over 3200 structures and caused 10 fatalities. so why this is important, as you start to read the fire weather reports that justin talked about as we g

the slaves adopted issued as the patron dod, just to scare the christians who wanted them to convert. became symbol of resistance in latin america and america's. in fact, it went beyond the. in certain parts of brazil, for instance, you find that issue has even been elevated to the supreme dod, simply because that was a symbol that was there, protagonists for freedom. so you find the transposition across the atlantic, not minor but certainly became not only a symbol of resistance in the new world, but the supreme deity in certain parts of brazil. on the contrary if you go to the heart by and of brazil and to go to a shrine, the hierarchy is quite plain. but in certain other parts, issue became supreme deity. now consider today, this is the history in africa. and this goes back a couple of centuries. now imagine that today, to be a follower of that religion is virtually to earn the death sentence in certain parts of nigeria. christians also earn a death sentence in certain parts of nigeria. and, of course, among christians bought in kind -- but the level of tolerance based on ignorance

dod is the biggest concern of energy.ecome a great driver of innovation just like darpa did on the internet. the last one is something that dave touched on, the credibility of renewables. when you are talking security and dod cares, it brings in a whole different perspective in furtherance of renewables and efficiency. >> there is a tremendous amount of research dollars in the world of the pentagon as we saw. a lot of times technologies that begin at military technology, gps, started as military and become broadly successful as the cost comes down. >>> bob? >> last week, nasa released images from a satellite using high regulasolution, visible an infrared resolution to reveal the most detailed we have seen. it was another reminder of the reality in which we live where you have 1.5 billion people without power. you look at africa. it is basically a continent shrouded in darkness. that is something we keep needing to remind ourselves. for any of your viewers that want to know what they can do to help bring light and power. >