how do dod and congress come together on this? isn't it harder for those two bodies to come together? how do we get there? >> it is challenging. what michelle has laid out is a way to get there that is not completely blowing up the entire system or rocking the entire boat. i am more on the side of blowing up the whole system, because the reality is, yes, we will have big, clunky, industrial era-type weapons systems we will have on budget, but the majority of acquisitions we need to make will be these more agile, mission-oriented types of technology, fulfilling new operational concepts. the things we often get off-the-shelf in the private sector rather quickly with flexibility and adoption, then they come along. one thing we mentioned in the report is the best way to start is rather than blowing up the entire system, focusing effort on the parts and programs of dod that are working. i think we need to do that as an end goal, but we are completely aligned in the way we need to start out to change the system, and it is true and you w

this is a really critical part of the agenda for the dod. but it's not just what we buy. it's how we communicate the results and demonstrate the results, the concepts and experiments to underline that and then how we put our existing capabilities together in ways to give a greater advantage. >> you mentioned a little earlier, the need for flexibility and the right kind of congressional oversight to enable some of thehe experimentation if needed and use the historical analogies. what role does the dod resource allocation system, its it's programming planning, execution system say in the incentives or the ability and the department to prioritize that kind of activity? those that have a role and also does it drive the oversight? >> i think the current system is very sequential and rigid. once something is in the program it is set in stone unless it's failed. and we've modeled this on the ford motor company approach in the acquisition. we take years to define the requirements and thenem we go through this milestone to ultimately acquisition and it's designed to keep things in

and dod. they transfer medical data electronically.nificant time is wasted if we don't understand the current environment and real problems trying to be solved. number three realistic expectations and detailed requirements. when my wife and i built our home we had ideas for what we wanted and how it should look, like t many couples ideas did not match. it took as much time working with the architect defining requirements as it took to build the home. many times the architect would have to site our expectations versus reality and cost but it was clear what we are building. and with arduous and time-consuming. and then the foundation for meeting those expectations or manager on - - managing them. but i cannot it with a commercial airliner to be built and designed byy car mechanics it has much more likely it haspe experienced implementations and as team members who understand the workflow of the medical workforce so it takes the team is many time composed of multiple organizations and it takes a team into partnership. with my experience p

sides with dod and v.a.? >> that's correct this is one of the few projects ig's are working together to make a joint report. va. >> i'm going to ask one more. are you also looking into whether or not he interpret turner has the ability to do the job. >> generally what we found is that the system itself from a technical basis, is working. now there are opportunities for us to review as cerner have they done the job so far and are they going to do it in the future those are projects we can try to plan for and would not made any review or decision on that yet rated. >> thank you for indulging. >> i appreciate your life questioning that what we way today have glad you made it. i would also say that is 530 we got about on the undersecretary of the va and it's going to be in charge of this. i can tell you in the last administration, that position was very fluid it opened a lot of the time and i think i'm saying it could be part of the problem that i would hope that is the it's confirmed it so that they have people

whether it is from dod, the v.a. or community providers, without worrying about paperwork or potentially harmful -- in records. a system that helps providers understand injuries so they can provide the best care possible today. that's the goal and i know that many folks are concerned we cannot, or won't, get there. but we can and we will. we are now in a position to move ahead as one unified organization in partnership with the dod. as senator moran suggested, sensitive to congress's oversight role, to deliver a system that improves the outcomes for our vets. and that is exactly what we are going to do. so senators, senator murray, senator moran, collects them think the deputy to appear here today. i look very much for to your question. >> secretary mcdonough, thank you very much for chess money. according to the inspector general of the d failed to report the programs to cost to congress as required by the veterans benefit and transition act of 2018. what actions have been taken to correct this and what steps has in

government partners to determine if they anticipated a need for dod or d.c. national guard support related to the planned protests. on december 31, the commanding general of d.c. national guard received a letter from the d.c. government requesting national guard support for the d.c. metro police at 30 traffic control points and six metro stations, and to make available the d.c. national guard civil support team to support the d.c. fire and emergency services. over the weekend of january 2 and january 3, my staff contacted the secret service, the park police, the marshals service, the fbi, the capitol police, to determine if they plan to request dod assistance. none of these law enforcement agencies indicated a need for dod or d.c. national guard support. after consultation with the department of justice, the acting secretary of defense approved the d.c. government request for national guard personnel to support 30 traffic control points and six metro stations from january 5 to january 6. the acting secretary also authorized a 40-person quick reaction force to

that undercurrent of policy at dod has to be brought forward. all of those would have been -- direct the acting secretary and the navy to extend this direction. i hope he does that because it sends the wrong message. what is important also is if you look at all the systems we have come up -- have, you cannot get anyone to agree to have negotiations with the power that is continually underlining -- undermining his own programs and failing to accomplish them and unilaterally disarming itself. we have to make certain we ensure the security of the nuclear prospects. ms. heinrich: in other words, it is not that you are not making an argument against discussions with the russians. it is this idea of not fully modernizing our nuclear force before we can begin doing that and taking entire categories of missile systems, they would disapprove of. they would want us to get rid of. we would do that preemptively before we give anything in return. from the russians. i thought that was a very interesting exchange on the point of will the acting secretary of th

does the dod plan to inplemt an independent sexual investigations, and how do they intend to do that? >> yes, we do. we believe that's within our pursue. it is not under the list of legislative items that i mentioned. we do, however, have a full set of the 82 recommendations from the irc. i have from the secretary until the end of the summer to go through all of those with the team inside across the department, looking at the staffing, resourcing, organizational changes, synchronizing we would need to do. but as the secretary made clear, he's moving forward with a general disposition towards accepting the recommendations of the irc. we're scrubbing all those now, but i can assure you that is one where we absolutely plan to prove forward. >> all right. in secretary austin's february memo, he outlined a number of steps. what work has been completed so far in these steps? and what has the department found from its high-risk insulation reviews so far? and how will these existing efforts mesh with the department's implement tax of irs implementations? >> thank you very much. to your last p

there are more than 130 5000 voices like those since dod started keeping track. there are countless more voices we will never hear from, but for over 10 years, i have heard your deafening silence and the tides are finally turning. others are hearing you two. secretary austen is committed to implementing many of the independent review commission's recommendations, and he and chairman millie are committed to removing from the chain of command prosecution decisions for sexual assault, sexual harassment, and other special victims crimes. that is simply the beginning. the first step on a road with twists and turns. we must ensure not only the prosecutors who are entrusted to bring justice are properly trained and focused, but also that the military criminal investigators have the right expertise and experience when it comes to investigating sexual assault. we must keep working to ensure survivors can petition a military judge for a protective order that keeps them safe on post and, more importantly, off post to. and that sexual harassment complaints are investigated o

dod has a role outside of the united states operating. >> thank you. you are confirming for me that it is a matter of policy and political will to take, and should we decide to as a country, should the administration decide to take military action against what some are classifying as criminal actors. is that an accurate kind of the resestation believer to make sure that i understand? >> again, i think that what you are saying is who is going to lead, and what type of activities and the role of the u.s. cyber operations. >> thank you. i appreciate that. and the final question is on the recruitment and the retention issue, do you have any data or the numbers of how many of your cyber warriors that decide to leave active duty transition into the guard and the reserve, and is that ta specific focus area for you, and it seems to me that we can retain a lot of the talent and in fact, improve the capabilities of the force as they go out for the private sector, and maintain sending that back into the guard and the reserve and related, because we have had autho

does the dod plan to inplemt an independent sexual investigations, and how do they intend to do that? >> yes, we do. we believe that's within our pursue. it is not under the list of legislative items that i mentioned. we do, however, have a full set of the 82 recommendations from the irc. i have from the secretary until the end of the summer to go through all of those with the team inside across the department, looking at the staffing, resourcing, organizational changes, synchronizing we would need to do. but as the secretary made clear, he's moving forward with a general disposition towards accepting the recommendations of the irc. we're scrubbing all those now, but i can assure you that is one where we absolutely plan to prove forward. >> all right. in secretary austin's february memo, he outlined a number of steps. what work has been completed so far in these steps? and what has the department found from its high-risk insulation reviews so far? and how will these existing efforts mesh with the department's implement tax of irs implementations? >> thank you very much. to your last p

keeping dod schools that the united states is inherently racist.hools that a student should feel guilt or english because of their race or behavior of historical members of their race. keeping dod schools the moral character or value is determined by the race. why, in your view, congresswoman is this necessary? >> as a former schoolteacher also senior member of the armed services committee. the thought department of defense could be teaching our children their country is inherently racist and certainly the children of men and women in uniform is important. we need to make sure this doesn't happen. the department of defense overseas 70000 of men and women in uniform and 160 bases around the world and in america. i want to make sure they are taught this is the greatest country in the world. they should be proud of our country and not be ashamed of who they are based on their skin color. mike: playing a clip and then i will ask you to respond. >> we do not teach critical race there he. we do not embrace critical race theory. i think that is a spurious

it's also important to have dod learnmore about the risk that they take in recruiting members to the force and this includes studying and piloting combatability assessments and alarming the irc found critical failings in victim care and support. every survoifr that we interviewed told us that they regretted making a report when restricted or unrestricted. the nearly all the survivors who we heard from had contemplated or attempted suicide. recommendations to improve victim care include shifting sexual assault, response coordinators out of the command structure and victim advocates as well. largely eliminating collateral duty victim advocates and we have a number of recommendations in that regard. because of the irc's urgent concern for victim safety we tlaem this area be prioritized for meld acacia. we also identified the related know to improve the response to slayings which issing. the irc presents a challenging position but we believe with leadership significant progress will be many. as you know chris rose is also here today from the victim care and support so we're happy to answ

that's va or dod kind of related, which is really pretty big. i think it's one of the biggest per capita, if not the biggest in the country. but we don't even have a full service v.a. hospital, in the whole state. more vets per capita than any state in the country. what's the general view from your guys' perspective on those kind of opportunities, va, dod integration in terms of hospitals and health care? >> senator, one of the things that we really think is critical for v.a. is flexibility. hopefully, the air commission is going to provide a lot of answers. as you mentioned, chicago. there are other places where they could have partnerships. the public/private partnerships. >> i'm pushing this in the ndaa. i think the va is supportive, but alaska to me -- i know senator hassan mentioned it a little bit ago, but i think we are kind of a pole position for that. >> shared facilities is another flexible one. renewing the leases -- sorry. reviewing the lease authority so that they can execute the leases that are different than the ten-year monies ne

it's also important to have dod learnmore about the risk that they take in recruiting members to the force and this includes studying and piloting combatability assessments and alarming the irc found critical failings in victim care and support. every survoifr that we interviewed told us that they regretted making a report when restricted or unrestricted. the nearly all the survivors who we heard from had contemplated or attempted suicide. recommendations to improve victim care include shifting sexual assault, response coordinators out of the command structure and victim advocates as well. largely eliminating collateral duty victim advocates and we have a number of recommendations in that regard. because of the irc's urgent concern for victim safety we tlaem this area be prioritized for meld acacia. we also identified the related know to improve the response to slayings which issing. the irc presents a challenging position but we believe with leadership significant progress will be many. as you know chris rose is also here today from the victim care and support so we're happy to answ

government and amazon for the better part of two years now the dod is announcing a new program.ew multiavenger contract that it's going to be looking for requests for proposals from microsoft and amazon expected to be the potential winners there in the coming months that program called joint war fighter cloud capability or jwcc, not quite as sexy as jedi. but mike santoli, the fact we are seeing these big heavy hitter tech names at new highs on a potential new government cloud competition says what about the market more broadly? >> well, i think the market has been trending in the direction of those types of stocks in the first place. we have apple up today it's not really in the running for something like this. i do think it comes as a fairly pragmatic solution here both because it was going to be caught up in some litigation for a while. and, you know, never had to be a wi winner-take-all single thing i think the market has moved on from the idea this is going to be an endorsement of one company or another's better mouse trap it reinforces the idea there's multiple plays in th

the dod saying the contract, quote, no longer meets its needs. a new program is being rolled out the joint warfighter cloud capability, a multivendor, multiyear contract with us is the acting chief information officer of the department of defense, the man who is overseeing this, john sherman. thank you for being with us today. >> it's a pleasure thank you for having me. >> so in terms of the shift in plan here from jedi to now the jwcc, to shift from single source to multivendor, what is that going to enable the dod to do in terms of fielding this new cloud capability >> it's really about enabling our joint war fighting across our combat and commands in the rest of the department of the industry has evolved in cloud and so has the department. we started jedi several years ago, the single cloud approach would have been right back then. we've moved beyond that. having more than one provider to provide multiple capabilities to our warfighters is critical for us to be able to succeed in our 21st century fight >> and you have explicitly called out ama

quigley: i am talking about the dod. how would you answer this, if this is a victory, a success, how would you have classified a failure? mr. miller: i want to highlight, it is not the correct role for the department of defense or the armed forces to be involved in civilian law enforcement matters except at an absolute last resort and when all civilian forces have been expended. that did not occur until about 2:30 in my estimation. rep. quigley: the last resort. you came in after the fact. i was in the room. i remember the colleagues saying when is the f-ing cavalry getting here? you never showed up on time. we were exposed because of this. i would respect you a lot more if you said, "we could have done this and this better." had i thought that, ok, you were at least trying -- you don't win every battle, but to lose the battle and say it was everybody else's fault? that does a disservice to the department of defense. mr. miller: that's not what i said. if we had a valid and necessary request from your body, i guarantee y

dod and cia continue to operate under essentially the same rules they've been operating under but it wait to find out what the rules that they're going to be playing by in the long-term or in the long run once again u.s. troops are gone and biden is saying this thing is over. now, why does this sort of rule setting, policy process matter in afghanistan? it really highlights the delicate balancing act that biden is trying to strike here in between ending a war with an adversary that is still fighting and yet not losing critical counterterrorism capabilities in a country where the united states is still worried about al qaeda, still worried about isis. >> you're pursuing all these questions, congress saz well. how is congress reacting to what seems to be a lack of answers. >> yeah. you're seeing some growing frustration on the hill for months lawmakers from both parties have really been pushing the biden administration on the nitty-gritty, what is your plan to continue to pursue terrorists here after you have sort of lost visibility into the country. again, remember, when you pull out

the dod later put a statement out.t does he mean it's all about timing when he said the numbers will get worse before it gets better? karine: i'll say this. the president is asking the department of defense to look into how and when they'll add covid to the list of mandatory vaccinations for our armed forces. anything else, i refer you to the dod. reporter: for civilian and military? karine: i know it's the department of defense. that is who he has been talking to about getting that done. reporter: ok. on a separate note, it was reported this morning that senator sinema, a key swing vote, said she will not be putting off vacation plans to vote on the $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill. what's your reaction? karine: i know this has come up and i want to be clear about this and what sinema actually , said. so i'm not going to clearly negotiate or anything like that at the podium. but it is important to be clear about what the senator said. she is going to vote to proceed with the debate on the budget resolution. she expre

yet dod did not authorize the deployment of d.c. national guard troops until nearly four hours after local officials first pled for help. even though we were under full-scale assault, dod hesitated until vice president pence, not president trump, gave the order to "clear the capitol." dod's explanations of its own actions have failed to address critical questions. why did military leader's place unusual restrictions on commanders on the ground? mr. miller says he first learned the mob had entered the capitol between 1:00 p.m. and 1:30 p.m. so why did the defense department wait until after 5:00 p.m. before sending the national guard to the capital. today's hearing at the end of our investigation, this committee with other committees will seek a full accounting of this attack. the inspector of the capitol, this oversight is essential. but we also need bipartisan commission focused on investigating the root cause of this insurrection. the 9/11 commission has taught us that even in our most difficult moments, we can come together as on

-- head of the dod, nobody thought this was a good idea.l force of 2500 troops is not a whole lot of a footprint to provide stability in the region. and i'm concerned with this complete decision to pull out that it's not going to have a good ending to it. and, you know, i look at the embassy itself, we're going to have 600 people, dod and other personnel, you know, i'm from texas, the alamo. we had 250 texans, 5,000 mexicans. didn't end up so well there. i think the odds are worse in afghanistan. mike: do you worry the united states will be forced to be send troops back into afghanistan, similar to what we've done after leaving iraq ten years ago? >> all the top experts i talk to, that's the greatest fear. you may be doing this for political purposes, but at some point our vital interests are isis andal a al qaeda, and we are going to give them the safe ap haven as the taliban takes over that nation and the vacuum that's going to be filled by terrorists. and i'm concerned that we will be going back. mike: do covid -- to covid origins in chi

, to make sure they are compliant with dod security, cyber security requirements. it is that industry -- an issue the industry takes very seriously. >> thank you. anyone else? ok, i would note there is a convergence here between your national security assets we have located in space and then, what you might think of as, an extension of our supply chain, our global positioning system satellites, you know, our various other space assets, that at a commercial level are needed. this distinction between traditional national security assets on one hand, and commercial assets on another, as we have seen with the shutdown of pipelines here, in the united states, it has not become blurred, it has become a race. we are going to have to tear down the stovepipes and ensure there is better coordination with our national security agencies moving forward. to the extent you have further thoughts moving forward, i would welcome the opportunity to work with any of the panelists. thank you. >> one point on that one point on that, the extent to which supply chain issues arm plays comm

we're going to have 600 people, dod and other personnel, i'm from texas, the alamo and we had 250 texansmexicans, i think the odds are worse in afghanistan. >> mike: do you worry the united states will be forced to send troops back into afghanistan's emmett til similao what was done after leaving iraq ten years ago? >> congressman mccaul: all the top experts i talk to, that's the greatest fear, he may be doing this for political purposes, but at some point our vital interests are isis and al qaeda and we are going to give them a safe haven as the taliban takes over that nation and that vacuum is going to be filled by terrorists. and i'm concerned that we will be going back. it >> mike: to covid origins in china, what your level of confidence that the u.s. intelligence community will get to the facts in terms of the origins of covid-19? >> congressman mccaul: well, the chinese commonest party will not open up the lab to this investigation, but we are getting information from other sources and i believe there's a high degree probability now that it came from that lab for a number of reason

is not the right place to lead the defense of the nation against nonkinetic threats and so if the dod bumper sticker is we fight and win america's wars, dhs needs to think of the mission as we lead the defense of the nation against nonmilitary threats. this is what dhs needs to move towards. dhs also needs to think of communications as a core mission and win the trust of the american people by how it takes on what it does. it also needs to modernize the public/private partnerships because that is how dhs tackles the dangers from climate change. dhs moral is another important challenge. let me ask the clerk to put up slide number two for the committee to take a look at. one of the things that we have all noted is that dhs has ranked last in the annual surveys of employee morale since 2010. the data from the september-october 2020 data is that dhs is last among the large cabinet departments and agencies in the federal government, but our analysis has shown that morale at the dhs is not a hopeless task, but far from it. dhs has had numerous success stories and frank taylor between 2014 a

in addition, improving dod information is critical. enhanced security protects against the compromise of our supply chain, the theft of critical technologies, and threats posed by foreign intelligence services, trusted insiders, and violent extremists both foreign and domestic. our security efforts strengthen the vetting of d.o.d. personnel, counter foreign adversary efforts targeting our critical information, to end technologies, supply chains and they protect our insulations, capabilities and work force from various threats. most important to our continued intelligence advantage will be building and retaining a diverse work force capable of meeting the new challenges the 21st century. it must have digital literacy and advanced skills to harness emerging technologies and adapt to ever changing threat environment. it must be a work force that's free of sexual harassment and intolerant of violent extremism at any level. and it must also be equitable, inclusive, and one that reflects the nation it serves, in short, diversity is a mission

did they talk to dod? did they talk to metropolitan police? was part of the communications circle on or before january 6th? we think there were some breakdowns in that system. so we'll have to look at the whole thing, not just who committed something, but there are some intelligence failures that occurred on january 6th. we need to make sure that we fix those intelligence failures so they never happen again. why does the dod operate separately from other institutions of government as it relates to january 6th? we have to fix all that. why does the mayor of the district of columbia, of which the united states capitol, is in an impotent position to protect the citizens of that area? so there's a lot of things we have to go to. we hope and expect cooperation from every branch of government as we pursue getting to this report. >> all right. congressman bennie thompson, who will be sharing that select committee, thank you so much for joining us tonight. >> thank you for having me. >>> we know donald trump tried to pressure elected officials in geor

the mass protests already said, read on all aspects. dod contribute to the most negative approach euro so important mission, for example, you much contact the most stations against government are continuously repeated, frankly speaking. we are no longer in the newest. if they muster doors in favor of the government or even support in the case of international people. and i'm going to say show, know, many people to support a cuban a seizure, not to understand what has happened for me. i went on a few, you know, our country, but it's for john to as you think that there was polish regression. again, the phone of brothers start bought the colors of the us, of the vandalism has been almost i clearly remember solar glasses in other countries, even in our region, we well documented policy khalidi, the not provoke the same reaction that event in cuba half coast. i'm in person on the east covers of the international solidarity with is limited defect, decided or not is the impression that cuba is isolate, isn't it? there was coverage of the violence in washington on january the 6th, but we saw t

. >> reporter: chief dod spokesman john kirby said the pentagon is still analyzing haiti's request forit was engaged with the haitian government to learn more about their needs and that a team of federal agencies, diplomats, and advisers are being dispatched there. >> i thik that's where our energies are best applied right now in helping them get their arms around investigating this incident and figuring out who's culpable. >> reporter: the incident happened wednesday morning when an armed hit squad entered the home of haitian president jovenel moise, killing him and seriously injuring his wife. the assailants fled into the capital, port-au-prince. authorities say a squad of 26 colombian nationals and two haitian americans were responsible. the americans say they were only working as translators. an audio recording alleged to be of first lady martine moise who is recovering in the hospital posted to her personal twitter. in it she says she is in beautiful condition but heartbroken and urges haitians not to let the assassination become a cause for their country's decline. the white hous

the mass protests already said, read emphasis on all aspects. dod contribute to the most negative approach euro so important mission, for example, that much content stations against the government are continuously repeated. frankly speaking. we are no longer in the newest if they must say, doors in favor of the government or even support. in the case of international people, and i'm going to say show, know many people to support a cuban official not to understand what has happened from a one on a few you know, our country. but it's for john to as you've been that there was a regression again before the start bought the course of the us, of the vandalism has been almost gas. i clearly remember stroller glochelle seen other countries, even in our region. we well documented policy. khalidi, the not to provoke the same reaction that event in cuba, half cost. i mean, personal opinion, east covers all the international solidarity with us is limited. the fact they started or not is the impression that cuba is isolate, isn't it? there was coverage of the violence in washington on january the 6th,

the mass protests already said, read emphasis on all aspects. dod contribute to the most the proper us euro. so important emissions for example, that much on content. so the mistake again, thank you. government are continuously repeated. frankly speaking, we are no longer in the news if they muster, doors are in favor of the government or even support in the case of international and people. and i'm going to say show, know, i need people to support a cuban a seizure, not to understand what has happened for me. i went on a few, you know, our country, but it's for john to as you think that there was polish regression. again, the phone brought the start, bought the colors of the us, of the vandalism has been almost gas. i clearly remember solar glasses seeing other countries, even in our region, we well documented policy khalidi, the not provoke the same reaction that event in cuba, half coast. i'm in person, i don't know if covert often international lead id with you is limited. the fact they started or not is the pressure that cuba is isolate, isn't it? there was coverage of the violenc