in the past, the dod has not necessarily been interested in tracking this. now they are concerned when they try to take care of their people, they will be penalized ace on a political agenda as opposed to we are providing high-quality health care for personnel to maintain mission readiness. >> you alluded to it, this has become a political issue, people are talking about this -- i don't hear discussion about women in the military. this creates certain barriers for everyone. what is it about living in the military that makes it much more challenging? >> i was a women in the military don't have the same autonomy as women who are not in the military. as an officer in the military, i cannot travel more than 150 miles away from my duty station without permission of my commander. i have to put out leave or pass request to do that. civilian women can do whatever they want when they are not at work. we also don't have the luxury of where we are station. i can be stationed at any state or country the army has determined i need to be stationed to do my job. if i don't

the new dod report on china also highlights major corruption within the chinese industrial base. how would you characterize the industrial base and what is the significance as we look at continuing to build hours? >> first, china has been growing its defense budget year- over-year closing the gap in terms of their outlays. second, because they have a state directive system, with state owned enterprises, working hand in glove with their pla and military, they are able to direct production and expand production at rates much more rapidly than we historically have been able to. they have also increased their innovation capacity going beyond stealing technology and developing new systems. we have to take the overall industrial base capacity of china very seriously and it is a key factor in the way that we think about what we have got to to allow ourselves along with our allies and partners. i think there are three areas where the u.s. has inherited advantages. the same state owned enterprises that are able to very rapidly said the demands signal and generate the production of key mun

i know dod has it. thank you. >> gm's team has expired and i thank the witnesses for being here today and for the members and the questions and we will now dismiss this first panel and take a brief, two to three-minute recess while we arrange for the second panel of witnesses. >>> the committee will come to order. i am happy to have the distinguished witnesses and i ask the witnesses to please rise and raise your right hand. you solemnly swear that the testimony you will give on behalf of the homeland security committee, will be the truth, the whole truth so help you god? thank you. the witnesses have answered in the affirmative and i'd like to formally introduce our second panel mr. balm garter serves at berkshire hathaway energy and the global director of the decisions group, also my classmate of the united states air force academy class of 2000. thank you for being here and we will now recognize mr. baumgartner for your opening statement of five minutes. >> chairman, ranking members and members of th

bringing the entire dod together. my expertise is only has authority over dod installations so fbi, dhs, others are working, i think we have a lot of activity in the skies of multiple types, and there are many censors looking down from space looking up from earth flying watching out to make sure there isn't anything nefarious going on that being said a lot of activist. >> meetings you mentioned what dod is doing still don't have any answers. >> well, this is true. because there is very crowded airspace, there are authorities to operate, at a variety of different altitudes so at this point we are collecting data i think what is important to bear here is we need to really leverage the defense tech community to use all of their ability to take big dataed on synthesize it try to come up with answers classify who is what we. whether do you belief biggest needs are in terms of defense technology. >> i think right now, what we've to do is really make use of all authorities, that congress has given the department of defense.

the new dod report on china also highlights major corruption within the chinese industrial base. how would you characterize the industrial base and what is the significance as we look at continuing to build hours? >> first, china has been growing its defense budget year- over-year closing the gap in terms of their outlays. second, because they have a state directive system, with state owned enterprises, working hand in glove with their pla and military, they are able to direct production and expand production at rates much more rapidly than we historically have been able to. they have also increased their innovation capacity going beyond stealing technology and developing new systems. we have to take the overall industrial base capacity of china very seriously and it is a key factor in the way that we think about what we have got to to allow ourselves along with our allies and partners. i think there are three areas where the u.s. has inherited advantages. the same state owned enterprises that are able to very rapidly said the demands signal and generate the production of key mun

the replicator dod is procuring and fielding attributable autonomous capabilities at speed and scale, thousands of systems across air, land and sea in less than 24 months. we are establishing the processes to be able to adopt and skill new technologies as needed in the future, including from nontraditional defense companies and from the commercial sector because we need to keep pushing the envelope in terms of speed and scale. recognizing the power of responsible ai to transform the way militaries fight, we released our first ever national security memorandum on artificial intelligence that provides a blueprint for harnessing the power and managing the risks of ai to advance our national security. now, all this we are doing at home but we recognize that we can't and shouldn't do this alone. a strategic competition intensifies of the global environment becomes more contested, we have to take bold steps in concert with our allies and partners to integrate and strengthen deterrence across the major theaters of the indo pacific, europe, and middle east. that leads to the third big push we

what is the dod need to be doing in order to address that issue? particularly when it poses a potential threat to our personnel for installations. the thing is, we have all recognize the fact unmanned systems are here to stay. they are a part of modern warfare whether it's here in the homeland or overseas, we want to make sure we are doing due diligence to protect our forces and protect from a national security standpoint. i think you'll see us continue to look at that. something will continue to take seriously. what systems are being sent, will they arrive? >> in addition to some of the capabilities early on these installations, capabilities essentially will enhance space authority's ability to detect, identify attract you a s. for example this could be active or passive detection capabilities plus capabilities like known as drought busters down connecticut means to interrupt grown signals, affect their ability to operate. >> you mentioned it was not all that unusual disease drones over military bases. you mentioned more and more of a common occur

the dod.promises the inspector general's ability to conduct objective oversight. no wonder they do not want pete hegseth as secretary of defense. we have a good old boys and a good old girl's defense there. what about the secret service? our fantastic secret service where were they? the numbers you come inside was limited by the secret service were there to protect the vice president of the united states for the counter assault team was outside the building and did not enter when it was breached because they did not know the layout of the capitol. complete screwup. secret service either did not receive or did not any intelligence products the threats to the u.s. capitol generally six including the fbi nor folk report, the postal inspection service report. secret service protective intelligence division personnel at marsh for trump. that break did not include any indications of potential civil disobedience. secret service guidance did not include instructional while exterior area should be swep

i know dod has it. thank you. >> gm's team has expired and i thank the witnesses for being here today and for the members and the questions and we will now dismiss this first panel and take a brief, two to three-minute recess while we arrange for the second panel of witnesses. >>> the committee will come to order. i am happy to have the distinguished witnesses and i ask the witnesses to please rise and raise your right hand. you solemnly swear that the testimony you will give on behalf of the homeland security committee, will be the truth, the whole truth so help you god? thank you. the witnesses have answered in the affirmative and i'd like to formally introduce our second panel mr. balm garter serves at berkshire hathaway energy and the global director of the decisions group, also my classmate of the united states air force academy class of 2000. thank you for being here and we will now recognize mr. baumgartner for your opening statement of five minutes. >> chairman, ranking members and members of th

on dod for a lot of our overseas operations. and so they are already down the road with a lot of stuff, and we are leveraging those partnerships and leveraging some of the other commercially available off the shelf stuff that's available right now. that is fed ramped, that we can bring inside our system. we are doing that work right now. and we -- there's about two or three different systems that we're looking at right now. and one of them is a dod system. >> thank you. the last question i wanted to address was this issue of culture. and i'm struck by the fact that there were numerous things that occurred on july 15th. i'll list some examples. a counter-usa operate didn't have former training on that system and when it didn't operate, they simply went without. without it being raised, anyone else's awareness. and the counteragent responsible for placing the counter sniper team placed the team that had responsibility for the sector that included the agr rooftop, which is where the gunman fired from, placed it in a location where

which system makes the dod a more lethal fighting force? which system would our adversaries not want us to have? thank you. >> first, i just want to thank the panel and those in attendance for coming to watch navy beat army in today's debate. don't miss the forest for the trees. $500 million for the navy encapsulates all of the goals. funding the army alone cannot capture the benefits we would have if you fund the navy. the navy is our nation's phone for deterring conflict, something undisputed without this debate. that is what we should aim to do. dieter. we want to keep great power competition, not get involved in a great power. have the navy to start -- stop conflict before it has even occurred. not explaining why the navy is not the preferable tool means you cannot possibly vote for the army. use the army when it is your last option. when you have no other options. when naval deterrence has failed in the first place. the situation in which we might lose america's sons and daughters is the one in which we have a week navy and/or embattle

in my first term, dod and va did a great thing. they shared the agreement for health care capabilities. it was fantastic. why can't the dod share this with homeland security, with the fbi and others so you can find out who they are. maybe it's china. i chair the china commission, and i've had 115 hearings on it, and i am barred from going there now and i'm on their hit-list. xi jinping is a monster. look at what putin is doing. they're all capable of doing horrible things to our people and now they're threat knowing my good friend and colleague from new york big time. let's get the dod capability and find out and put the rest to question who is -- we can bring one down tomorrow. your thoughts? >> sir, i would say i share your concern and i share a lot of frustration and i am more than willing to work with the department of defense to try to get better. >> they don't have the authority, they can do it on an emergency basis, just send that capability out to the ocean or to the beach because they're coming in every day. . figure out w

fly the planes okay so we do need to look at this and entirely different way and so not only on the dod we do need to have the private sector innovate and the rfpfp should be i want to knockout chinese chips into simple as that, and he asked the dod to do that, they will come up with an aircraft carrier the cost $10 billion and all of the systems and ukrainians are seeking russian ships the backseat with little boats maybe five or 600 pounds of tnt on them when a bunch of them we can't possibly take them all and they say boom the summary, this the other thing we would look at the maybe we need to have these really expensive submarinesun ad torpedoes the old way of fighting more we need to look at anyway fighting more but here's homelandbm security. none of them convinced going to have what we will wake up with something happens and that's always what we do and we should be waking up right now is owner things maybe we should be looking at is how we centralize homeland security kind of focus on the systems and how we protect all of our inner structuree airports, the energy system, our ele

i know dod has it. thank you. >> gm's team has expired and i thank the witnesses for being here today and for the members and the questions and we will now dismiss this first panel and take a brief, two to three-

on dod for a lot of our overseas operations. and so they are already down the road with a lot of stuff, and we are leveraging those partnerships and leveraging some of the other commercially available off the shelf stuff that's available right now. that is fed ramped, that we can bring inside our system. we are doing that work right now. and we -- there's about two or three different systems that we're looking at right now. and one of them is a dod system. >> thank you. the last question i wanted to address was this issue of culture. and i'm struck by the fact that there were numerous things that occurred on july 15th. i'll list some examples. a counter-usa operate didn't have former training on that system and when it didn't operate, they simply went without. without it being raised, anyone else's awareness. and the counteragent responsible for placing the counter sniper team placed the team that had responsibility for the sector that included the agr rooftop, which is where the gunman fired from, placed it in a location where

is the federal government making it easy, the dod? has there been a change? >> there are still significant barriers, so, in the case in the united states and i work in the vehicles business unit, that's what i'm most familiar with, in order to do classified work for the u.s. government, of course, we had to become mitigated. it's not impossible, but it's challenging. >> can you explain that for a minute, just what the acronym means. >> stands for fortune ownership and controlling interest, so to oversimplify, it's essentially a firewall between my company and the united states, american rheinmetall. my boss who runs it does not report to germany, he reports to the director. there are two employees, one is a german, one from the united kingdom and outside who are not employees, who are u.s. citizens has to outnumber the inside directors so they can vote down anything that's not in the united states national interest. so we have three u.s.-- two retired three-star generals and a u.s. security expert. >> and this is with an allied country so you can see how the

is the federal government making it easy, dod? has there been a change? >> there are still significant barriers. so in reimatol's case, i work in the business vehicles unit, that's what i'm most familiar with, in order to do classified work we had to become foci medicated. it's not impossible but it's challenging. >> can you explain that, what the acronym means? >> yeah, foreign ownership and controlling interests. to really oversimplify, it's essentially a fire wall between my company and the united states, american reimatol vehicles and our parent, the reimatol group. my boss who runs the unit does not report directly to germany, he reports to this board of directors. there are two inside members who are rheinmetall, one is german, one is from the united kingdom, and a number of outside directors who are not rheinmetall employees, who can vote down anything that are not in the united states interests. we have two three star generals and exec zblif this is with an allied country, mind you? >> yes. >> you can see how the bureaucracy works. >> i think it w

he's going to clean up the dod, get it focused, get the accountability down.ally like about him as well, two bronze stars, he served in combat in iraq -- howard: nobody can deny that for even a second. >> and he's someone that knows the risks when you send someone into combat because he did it himself. our whole point all along is we want the make sure these nominees get their meetings and hearings because all of them are very highly qualified, all of them are going tock -- to be rock stars once they the get in. and all of them are saying, you know what? we have a decision to make with regard to accountability. and voters made their opinions heard and said give these guys the chance. that's why there's not a single hard no from any republican against -- howard: well, a lot of people are saying let's see what the hearings bring. you're working on these nominees, so you've got a lot on your plate. looking ahead at the top of the agenda or right near the top, mass deportation. trump has said this a million times, of these 11 million illegal immigrants. the media

i'd like to see dod assist us. dod is assisted just about every presidential administration.dod could be a force multiplier. the men and women of ice that carry a badge and gun, that are doing administrative duties, like processing and transportation and infrastructure building. if we can get dod to help us that freeze those badge and guns up to get to the street to arrest the bad guys. so it all depends what i have available. day one, and we're working on that now. >> and will you ask the military for for planes to help with those, those flights as well absolutely. >> i'll ask them for helping transportation on the ground and in the air. they have a lot of planes. and, you know, i think this is a i think what's happening on our southern border in the last four years is the biggest national security vulnerability this country has seen. even the fbi director agrees with that. so i think dod has a perfect role in protecting our national security. now, they're not going to be out arresting people, but they're going to be a force multiplier and doing things that we need them to d

think of the los of trust, faith and confidence in fbi, dod, homeland security, intel security.isses intel had from afghanistan taliban and russia, ukraine and israel. what are they missing here and not telling us? good news is, lawrence, president trump is picked pete hegseth to come into dod and governor noem in dhs and fbi and tulsi gabbard to the intel community. great picks that will restore faith, trust and confidence in the way these agencies focus on mission they are supposed to do. people don't know what to believe right now. you have congressmen getting in fights with dhs. you have the commander happening where we manufacture and do research on ammunition and store ammunition there. 12 confirmed sightings, 18 possible sightings. you have the air force base, strategic power projection base that has sightings there. what is going on and where are these things coming from? they could be coming from a ship parked off the coast or in harbor or coming out of a container and could be a merchant ship. it does not have to be war ship or mother ship. it could be couple of contai

when you look at that, how do you drive the innovation at dod to prioritize and help dod in terms of where it needs to be focusing? mr. rozanski: this is this three timeframe problem that you're describing. it is a little bit like the three body problem in physics, which cannot be solved by conventional math. this cannot be solved by conventional means. if you start with a premise that more investment is needed, absolutely, but there's never going to be enough money to fully supply all of the needs across all of these investment timeframes. so to me, the only plausible answer is we need to accelerate across everything. we need to modernize faster. we need to put the new tools in place faster than we ever have. there's a good example for that. if you go back to operation warp speed, in 18 months, the country built what would be 10 years worth of therapeutics and vaccines because we mobilized, because we're willing to take risk differently because it was a public private partnership because a lot of the traditional rules had to either be suspended or revised, and that produced extraord

we used to believe at the dod that we had to own and operate our own kit. we believe that for many different reasons. first and foremost, we did not count on international partners to be there during times of crisis. the second reason was i have the most exquisite kit on the planet and i did not need to rely on anyone else. the third reason was we did not want to paint a target on allies for commercial partners. that has completely changed. russia has come out in the press and said anyone operating within the space of the target -- civil, commercial, nasa, allies -- you are all targets. couple that with the fact that we have the biggest area of responsibility with the smallest force and smallest budget, we have to change the way we get after the fight. the way we do that is through partnerships, partnerships with allies and commercial, by integrating a network and this capabilities together. that is something we are changing that we do not do in other domains. it is something we are doing by necessity in space because it is so big and so under resourced. we

dod that is dod, doj, department of energy, u.s. coast guard and the fbi. that's it. so our local public safety e and all folks boots on the ground, when you think about terrorist attack, who are first ones there? >> laura: local people, land owners, individuals, local authorities. something has -- we have to go, something has to be changed . here, senator, do you agree? something has to change with this policy on a federal level? >> who would ever believe that these large drones are coming in possible from the ocean and we o response except hey, we d don't know whaont they are, whe they are from or why they are here. >> laura: embarrassing, they t look like regular an airplanes to me, they look like drones to me.t wean got to get answers.ve thank you, we appreciate you.ah ahead, blue cities making their new priorities after the election. what areel the priorities? we'll tell you next. the next mega millions drawing is now available on jackpocket. jackpocket lets you order official state lottery tickets right on your phone. just pick your numbers and place your ticket

the dod organization arrow has an exemption, which does not make any sense. they are stating that anything that arro does is involved in montrose manor investigation, which allows arro to not release it. they have denied the existence of uap on multiple occasions, only to acknowledge them after an appeal was filed. they stated they found no additional uap videos. it seemed strange that they had three and only those three. the other requests had been filed by john greenwalt group to seek out more places that uaps might be hiding. in september 2022, the navy admitted that the uap videos existed, but denied the release saying that the videos contained sensitive information that are classified and exempt from disclosure. the dod will deny things on a monday and admit to it on a friday, said greenwalt. he said the government can and lease videos that protect the sensitive information. the on-screen information can be blurred and scrubbed. the meta-data can be removed. i will show you this example. this is a presentation from the task force. this is nuts, this leve

i think our goal is to enable dod is a fast follower of the commercial industry and take a look at how these leading-edge technologies that make decisions before we actually let them be in control. >> think you johnson. dr. dre for your thoughts please sir. >> i don't speak on behalf of dartmouth but when i was the primary emphasis of our work was on augmentation cilia probe programs like ptt which combined the ai in augmented reality to improve how people do tasks and we have teeming projects to have ai agents as members of the team rather than the tool. it doesn't work for darpa anymore so i can say in my mind we did not do that enough. we still think of this as acquiring a new technology. what we are we are doing is creating a sociotechnical ecosystem. we have to understand how transformative that is. when the printing press was created centuries ago it out only changed society it changed individuals. we became literate which we were before. ai is going to have a similar effect on the population and so we need to be even more studying ai, yes. mostly that sociotechnical system which

dod has the capability. dhs and dod and doj have the authorities. in fact, we're about to extend those authorities. and i have a bill right now in congress to give local law enforcement the ability to shoot down these drones. right now, they don't have the authorities from the faa. and we've got a bill that's working its way through congress to make that happen. >> but if we had a real president get one of these immediately if donald trump were president. >> that's right. the dod should have shot the balloon down. yeah. that's right. >> and like, maybe on november 18th when we first saw it. chairman green thank you. appreciate it. joining us now, a member of the senate homeland security committee, senator rick scott, our friend, my senator in the free state of florida, senator scott, try and explain this to me because they lied to us about the chinese spy balloon. are they trying to tell us that the most powerful country on the face of this earth, that the united states is incapable of determining whether or not this is a drone or not, a drone, they

spends an extraordinary amount on our dod budget. many than many countries put together.as a percent of gdp it is where we were in 1996. raise your hand if you believe the world is more dangerous now than it was in 1996. there is an argument to be made, especially because there was no prospect of large-scale warfare or global nuclear war in 1996 that we need to be investing more in our defense. we can debate what that means but we probably need to invest more and probably afford to do it. even as we increase the overall national security budget and domestic affairs. it's not enough just to spend more. we have to spend better. the biden administration has done a lot to invest -- divest from some legacy platforms, which is hard because you were road your capacity for more fighting [indiscernible] the administration has made some headway and massive investments in modern space architecture, cyber, very innovative integration and scaling of commercial technology like the replicator initiative which will bring affordable [indiscernible] across the taiwan strait and south china

spends an extraordinary amount on our dod budget. many than many countries put together.as a percent of gdp it is where we were in 1996. raise your hand if you believe the world is more dangerous now than it was in 1996. there is an argument to be made, especially because there was no prospect of large-scale warfare or global nuclear war in 1996 that we need to be investing more in our defense. we can debate what that means but we probably need to invest more and probably afford to do it. even as we increase the overall national security budget and domestic affairs. it's not enough just to spend more. we have to spend better. the biden administration has done a lot to invest -- divest from some legacy platforms, which is hard because you were road your capacity for more fighting [indiscernible] the administration has made some headway and massive investments in modern space architecture, cyber, very innovative integration and scaling of commercial technology like the replicator initiative which will bring affordable [indiscernible] across the taiwan strait and south china