. >> rose: so you choose when you're at the height of your powers not when you're doddering at, whatever, 89. >> when i turned 54, i read a white melinda on average will die in 27 years, on average. so i realized i lived two-thirds of my life. i didn't want to get to my death bed and say, gee, i wish i had given away more money, done something for this organization or that organization that was good to me in my life. i decided to get involved much more in philanthropy. i'm involved heavily, not at the level of bill gates, he has more resources than anybody. but at my level i'm trying to do a lot and a lot of organizations that were good to me or i think are good for society. >> rose: what i think is good about this, but what's good about this is to have people think about this idea-- let's say you thought about it when you realized that the life expectancy at the time was for 81, and-- >> right. >> rose: to think about 81. and so what is it i would like to achieve before i die, not in terms of some great medal or some great financial return, but what is it that i want to have been said a