if you were working with , doesfiorina right now she have to attack donald trump?e some way in which she could win tonight without getting into a fight? stand -- she has to katie: she has to stand her ground. she needs to find a spot where she is just not the female candidate. she is right on the precipice of this. mark: thank you both. we appreciate you both joining us. deputy campaign manager will join us. ♪ john: joining us now is carly fiorina errors deputy -- carly fiorina's deputy campaign manager. carlyody is talking about trump. -- donald you have three options, punch them in the face, punch him in the face but only if he punches you in the face first, or ignore him entirely. >> she sees this as an opportunity to introduce herself. it would not be a great introduction if all we are doing is talking about donald trump. i think you will see them shake it up a little bit. carly has a lot to say on her own. mark: what is something that has happened to her of late that gives you a feeling that she is better known and has a better chance of being elected? sarah: